02-18-2008, 03:20 PM
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AF Newbie
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Location: Medina , Ohio
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Check Engine light came on
Hello, my check engine light came on yesterday so i went to Auto Zone and the guy told me that my coolant level was low, or i may need a new thrermostat. How do u know if you need a new thermostat, what do i need to look for. I have a 02 Grand Prix GT with about 50,000 miles on it.
Thanks in advance guys!
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02-18-2008, 04:07 PM
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AF Enthusiast
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Re: Check Engine light came on
low coolant wouldnt throw a SES light, it would just make your low coolant light come on. neither would a bad T-stat.
if you needed a T-stat, your car would either run real hot, or real cold...depending on whether the T-stat is stuck open or closed.
I would have someone else hook a scanner up and see why the SES light is on. do you notice any difference in driveablilty??
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'98 Grand Prix GT coupe (88K) Project car
'00 Grand Prix GTX coupe (32K) Sold 10/16/09
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02-18-2008, 04:15 PM
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Re: Check Engine light came on
No, i havent noticed anything different at all. I noticed after i was leaving auto zone the temp gage was starting to go up, but once i started going and getting cold air back into the engine it went back down again. I might go back to auto zone and have them check the code again, some of the people there i just cant trust, it seems like they dont know anything about cars. Do u think it would just be woth spending 10 dollars on a new thermostat, and seeing how that goes?
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02-18-2008, 04:37 PM
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Re: Check Engine light came on
well, if the SES light is on...i really dont think a T-stat is gonna fix anything. if you say that the temp started rising a little, and it would make you feel safe to put a T-stat in, then go ahead. but like i said, i dont think its gonna fix the SES light.
i would just bring it back and scan the codes again. once you get a code pulled out of the system...let us know what it is. i we may be able to help you out then.
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as of Oct 2009:
'97 Grand Prix sleeper SE (133K) For Sale
'98 Grand Prix GT coupe (88K) Project car
'00 Grand Prix GTX coupe (32K) Sold 10/16/09
'06 Chevy Impala SS (30K) Daily Driver
Girlfriends car:
'08 Pontiac G6 GT (22K)
proud member of Wisconsin Club Grand Prix
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02-18-2008, 08:11 PM
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AF Newbie
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Re: Check Engine light came on
Ok i will get back to u in a couple of days when i get it re scanned
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02-18-2008, 08:27 PM
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AF Newbie
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Re: Check Engine light came on
i had the same thing, the problem was the engine wasn't getting warm enough within a set time. I changed out the therm to a fail-safe. No more check engine light
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02-18-2008, 08:45 PM
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Re: Check Engine light came on
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Originally Posted by phjohnso
i had the same thing, the problem was the engine wasn't getting warm enough within a set time. I changed out the therm to a fail-safe. No more check engine light
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Never heard of such a thing...
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as of Oct 2009:
'97 Grand Prix sleeper SE (133K) For Sale
'98 Grand Prix GT coupe (88K) Project car
'00 Grand Prix GTX coupe (32K) Sold 10/16/09
'06 Chevy Impala SS (30K) Daily Driver
Girlfriends car:
'08 Pontiac G6 GT (22K)
proud member of Wisconsin Club Grand Prix
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02-18-2008, 09:03 PM
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AF Newbie
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Re: Check Engine light came on
i think the error code was P0128 for coolant temp low - apparently the old thermostat failed in the open position so the engine didn't fry.
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02-19-2008, 06:52 AM
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Re: Check Engine light came on
A stuck open t-stat on a GM OBD-II car will trigger a code P0128-"ECT reading below thermostat regulating temperature".
This will cause poor performance and mileage due to the PCM not going into closed loop mode. It will also cause a lack of heat due to the coolant not being allowed to come up to temp before the t-stat opens. It sounds like a new t-stat should fix your issue as long as you're not losing or low on coolant. If that's the case you could have other issues that led to the failed t-stat.
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02-19-2008, 04:37 PM
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Re: Check Engine light came on
[quote=richtazz]A stuck open t-stat on a GM OBD-II car will trigger a code P0128-"ECT reading below thermostat regulating temperature". quote]
hmm...nice thing to know. I've never heard of a T-stat throwing a SES light. learn something new everyday i suppose
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as of Oct 2009:
'97 Grand Prix sleeper SE (133K) For Sale
'98 Grand Prix GT coupe (88K) Project car
'00 Grand Prix GTX coupe (32K) Sold 10/16/09
'06 Chevy Impala SS (30K) Daily Driver
Girlfriends car:
'08 Pontiac G6 GT (22K)
proud member of Wisconsin Club Grand Prix
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