Sea Foam Question...

ZenithZ24 · 01-29-2008, 07:42 PM

Well, I got myself some Sea Foam and my original intent was to put it into the gas tank, but then I decided I wanted to put it through the intake. I don't want to seem like an idiot, but the directions on the can are... well less than vague, and I just wanted some clear instructions on how to put this through my engine so I didn't mess anything up. If anyone can help me please, and It will be greatly apperciated. Thanks. Oh by the way I have a 2.4L Twin Cam.

Classicrocjunkie · 01-29-2008, 09:28 PM

This is quite funny actually i just did my PT cruiser today at school and got a few good looks from all the smoke, but anyways...

It says you can pour it through your throttle body. I don't recommend doing such as it screwed with my cavalier when i did it the first time around. There is a nice big black plug that goes into your brake booster and its hooked to your Throttle body. Use that as your vacuum source as its the biggest and goes to all 4 cylinders. I would recommend getting an adapter that will allow you to down size into a smaller hose and not suck so much at a time since it will stall out your car. I used a once piece vac adapter with tappered ends. Stuck one into the hose after i remove the fitting and the other i had some small rubber washer fluid hose. Do this with the car warm and slurp the seafom up with the smaller rubber hose. Don't fully submerse the hose into the container. You'll have to rev it a few times while slurping because it will try and die.

Hope that fragment of an explanation makes sense.

G.A.S. · 01-29-2008, 09:39 PM

This link will go to there directions. http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechGas.htm
However, Just run this through your fuel system as per the oz. to gal. ratio.
I use it all the time on a regular basis .
I run it through the fuel regularly and when I do an oil change I add three oz. to the oil and let it run for 10 min or so then change oil and filter.
I see no reason to flood the engine with this product as it does a very good job using it on a regular basis, same thing as flooding but better because it runs through everything anyways but constantly per tank of fuel.
I run this in a fleet of equipment and have no problems, and clean internal engines. Very nice to work on.
read the whole page, its short.

Blue Bowtie · 01-29-2008, 09:43 PM

Open a browser window and Google "hydrolock" before you start. Then, as long as you've found Google, search for "fuel injector manufacturer" and "why the Hell would you want to put water through your injectors?" before proceeding. See what Denso, Hitachi, Siemens, Bosch, and Rochester have to say about water and injectors.

Google "SeaFoam ingredients" and get out your calculator. Add 2 + 2 and see if it doesn't equal 4.

Then decide if you want to put any SeaFoam in a fuel injected engine.

Just because other people have done it doesn't mean it's a good idea. Other people have removed their air cleaner and installed a piece of foam in a shiny frame and run it that way "with no problems" that they know of. Other people have run without a thermostat "with no problems" or put magnets on their fuel lines, etc. That doesn't make it the right thing to do.

G.A.S. · 01-29-2008, 09:50 PM

The Hydrolock is self explanatory. what part of the injector manufacturers are you looking at?
can you post a link, I went to the page but dont know what your refering to

DeadBlade89 · 01-29-2008, 11:57 PM

Seafoam ingredients:
Isopropyl Alcohol (rubbing alcohol), pale oil, and naptha.

GM TEC ingredients:
2-BUTOXYETHANOL, naptha, 4-METHYL-2-PENTANOL, 9-OCTADECENDIC ACID.

Classicrocjunkie · 01-30-2008, 12:27 AM

Valvoline makes a similar product to seafoam and has no issues. It cleaned up the idle on my PT cruiser i can tell you that for sure. It didn't like drinking it, but she does run a lot smoother.

To each their own man.

ZenithZ24 · 01-30-2008, 01:18 AM

Well, I'm gonna try and run this through my fuel system, See if I notice anything. Thanks for all your input I really apperciate it. I'll get back later.

yhandor · 01-30-2008, 03:40 AM

I love seafoam, last time I did it, it smoked for 10 minutes straight, I went down the main road and cars stopped because no one could see anything LOL! It was a good time, man did I get A LOT of weird looks.

Blue Bowtie · 01-30-2008, 11:25 PM

DeadBlade - You forgot the 10% water in that formula. It doesn't appear in the MSDS because there is no need to list water as a potentially hazardous ingredient.

If you want the mix rates:

SeaFoam is basically refinery "waste". About 50% light hydrocarbon oil (pale oil), 30% petroleum naphtha, (charcoal starter fluid/mineral spirits, whatever you want to call it), 10% isopropyl alcohol, and 10% water. With the exception of the alcohol (added to keep the water in an emulsified suspension), the components are the mid- to upper-tier byproducts of hydro cracking useful petroleum products from crude oil. Those that are usually hardest to separate (normally done through a centrifuge) are simply sold as a mixture with some alcohol added to keep it volatile and emulsified.

The alcohol mixes with the water(as does the naphtha to some extent) and the "murky" appearance of the liquid is due to the emulsion created by the water/oil mixture forced into suspension by those solvents.

It ain't rocket science - It's barely science at all. But it was a fair bit of marketing back in the '30s when it was first sold. And it's surely no secret.

The sellers and marketers have lots of suggestions for its use, but because of the formulation, I'd never even think of putting it in my engine oil, even though the synthetic would tolerate it a bit more than mineral oils. As for dumping into an intake, plain water injection will do a far superior job of cleaning carbon deposits. As with any liquid administered to an engine, the rate is critical. Too little, and you're really not accomplishing anything. Too much, and you hydro-lock the engine, risking piston, rod, head, and wrist pin damage.

I'd almost guaranty that the majority of the cleaning is done by the solvents and water. You can buy SeaFoam if you'd like, or you can use the hydrocarbon solvents already available (gasoline or gasohol) and water to accomplish the same thing.

Personally, I don't buy water and alcohol in $6 steel cans.

Classicrocjunkie · 01-31-2008, 01:52 AM

"murky appearance?" - Looked like a ginger ale or red bull yellow to me.

G.A.S. · 01-31-2008, 10:23 AM

I thought the same thing about the mixture. gingerale is just what I thought too.
I did however e-mail sea-foam in reguards to this subject and will post there reply along with my question so keep an eye out.
I want the lowdown right from the horses mouth.
As I stated, I use this in a fleet of equipment as well as my costomers and my own personal stuff.
Will post back when infromation is here.

Headnsouth · 01-31-2008, 10:50 AM

Great info BowTie/DeadBlade

shakewell · 01-31-2008, 09:48 PM

If a can of "stuff" makes your car run better, you aren't maintaining your car right.

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SLJ2137694 · 02-01-2008, 11:30 AM

If you are concerned about deposit build-up in your engine you need to use "Top Tier Gas".http://toptiergas.com/index.html

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