Fight About GSX TOPSPEED

OKAY, if you go to the Racing Forums, you'll see that i have a thread, My GSX hits 171 (joke) what i really hit was 160s, what did ur guys GSX topspeed hit, and tell them that our GSX's can reach those speeds!!

You're full of bullshit you ricer, you said your GSX did 171, your speedo doesn't even go that high. I doubt you have had your car above 150. And then you have to come here and try to get help cause you can't stand up for yourself and prove anything. :rolleyes:

Yeah... prove your claim of 171... or... 160 whichever you want to say your car does...


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hahahahahaha too funny he dug his own grave and made the coffin but now he doesnt wanna die
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pics?

can we at least get a mod list?

hahaha he really did go to get help, and look nobody here has replied to his post in this forum. Hmm is it b/c he is full of bullshit?:dogpile:

thread's called "fight about gsx topspeed"

who's fighting?

it's a debate. not a fight. prove your point... be logical, that's all we've asked.

you haven't done it

for anyone that's interested... this kid's only 15...

has a 99 gsx, and apparently, it's modded to 345 hp per thread in the m3 forum...

now i'm not sure, but i'm pretty sure you've got to have your license to drive a car, yeah? maybe?

and technically, as of right now, according to your b day in your profile, you're not even 15 yet...

hehe:right:

He's just a lowly troll. Starts all kinds of stupid pointless threads, then gets bitter when people make fun of him. It's idiots like those that make message boards get slower. Thanks for wasting our bandwith jerk.

Rob

top speed is 170. GSX'S DO NOT COME WITH A SPEED LIMITER.

Originally posted by GSXer
top speed is 170. GSX'S DO NOT COME WITH A SPEED LIMITER.

maybe not...but there is this simple thing called physics in our universe which makes that number impossible unless it is going down hill, w/ a strong breeze behind it, an about a day to get to that speed. ur car will not go 170 stock, quit feeding ppl wrong ideas...

No one is feeding people nothing. I own a dsm and I have hit 160 with the EGT gauge at 830. My mod list

Frank 2 (46 trim, ported, clipped 15dg, 8cm housing, 34mm internal gate) Rotaded housing.
660cc denso's
190lp pump
APEX'i Intercooler
JIC Exhaust (Custom made) 3inch the whole way, stainless steel.
ACT 2600 (Slippin)
AFC (blue wire mod and 3BAR map sensor mod).
O2 dump.
Stock ignition
Tail BOV
...and tuning to match. Unless you have a dsm, don't talk about what you have read on the net.

is ur car stock? no...don't talk about things that are irrelivent. 160 w/ those mods, yet u claim the stock one will do 170? u make no sense, an jus cuz i don't own a DSM, doesn't mean i don't kno anything...ur arguement is pointless.

ur sayin that ur car did 170 bone stock? I would love to see what happens when u do some mods to that thing..you'll be doing 200mph...what a bunch of bs:flipa:

now...

with the mods you listed, your car will do 160?

but your friend's car with basic bolt on's did 177?

i'm lost here...

sounds like your motor is way built up (a frank 2 and new turbo and inj's aren't what i'd call bolt on)...

so if your friend is sporting the same "bolt on's" you are... i can understand the 170...

but around here, bolt on's don't include a new turbo...

LOL...Then what the fuck does bolt on mean?

Here is the process for all you little ricers:

take the water lines off the t-25, take the oil return off the cartridge (along with the oil feed line)

Unbolt the mani, then take the t-25 off

Then you shave the oil return line holes wider to fit the Frank cartridge.

After that You take the stock water lines from the t-25 and switch the front to the back, back to the front. (Some twisting is involved)

Bolt the turbo on to the mani

Then you take your oil feed line, BOLT it on the oil filter assembly (after taking the stock oil feeder adaptor off), then to the top of the housing, then proceed to place the oil return line to the bottom of the cartridge and then bolt on a 3" o2 housing to the exhaust housing. Then after that attach to the DP to the o2 housing.

I could walk you little girls through this process all night. But it doesn't even matter. One of you own a weak ass GSR (B18C) wich can't take more than 9 psi its weak ass little block. By the way...that whole process is bolting and unbolting. No lifting valve covers or taking out balance shafts.

Or wait...does bolt on mean going to your local pep boys and buying APC stickers like you do do "Fly"?

I have a GSX and I went 163mph. With almost the same mods this guy has. But I sold all my stuff :( . His claims aren't lies.

don't fucking call me a ricer.

i'm sorry but a turbo isn't a bolt on.

never has been. regardless if you're replacing one.

an intake, high flow filter, shit like that, bolt on.

a new turbo and all the shit you've got done doesn't sound bolt on.

and to repeat, don't ever fucking call me a ricer again.

i never doubted you. you didn't prove your self.

the video doesn't prove anything.

now someone else says he did 163 with what you've got?

great.

how did you prove that?

speedo?
accurate... :rolleyes:

radar gun? doubt it.
rev/speed meter? doubt it.

i'm still not seeing what could be anything near truth. sorry.

and to clarify more...

cams aren't bolt ons.

an upgraded turbo that requires modification to the manifold isn't a bolt on...

i'm sure most other people would agree that a "cleaned up head" isn't bolt on...

ok, u want to call the gsr a "weak ass motor?" too bad it takes a turbo on ur motor jus to push out the same power. if u knew anything about the block, u'd kno all u have to do is put some lower compression pistons, an boost it.

"bolt-ons" are jus that...things that take little work, an under an hour for install. (i/h/e/cat...) this arguemtn still has nothing to do w/ wut u argued...u stated that the GSX could do 170 stock? where u at now? u still haven't come back with anything for that comment...but we're "ricers." don't post up some b/s install process that anyone could look up an find how to do, then think ur some type of god who knows things. prove ur car, an jus how "great" ur dsm motor is compared to a b series motor, or shut the fuck up. :finger4:

also...

the video in question in the other thread is a car built by road race engineering...

the one that was featured in the awd/fwd/rwd shootout 2 year ago...
nice way to pick a stock car... 400-500hp...

that's really stock...

and the site says it's "gear limited to 180"

if i ditched my rev limiter, my car could theoretically hit 160 in 5th..

but since i can't do it (aero and the limiter)... i guess that's not true...

i'm sure you could gear a car to do 300mph... but does it have the power and aero to get there?

KrNxRaCer00 ,

I am amazed for you being such a car buff you would not know the differences between the 4g63 and b18c. One is made from the factory to take boost, and one isnt. Your motor has highr compression for no forced induction purposes, as mine has a lower compression (8.5:1) for forced induction. Not to mention that iron blocks withstand more horsepower than any aluminum block on the market (SR20DET is the ONLY exception) Just incase you didn't know, mitsu has had the variable cam timing technology since the 70's. Don't belive me? Go ahead and do a little research on something that is called MIVEC. I guess us DSMers take the term "BOLT ON" differently from you HONDuh boys. Replacing an intake, putting a Weapon "R" cone, and slapping a 5Zigen muffler on your car is a bolt on? Okay...what ever. Why are you trying to voice your expertise on a Mitsu motor when you dont even know the difference between a N/A motor and ours? Sit down little boy and take a nap...your whole style is chump. Stick to your Fake MUGEN rims and Hype R stickers. Your knowledge on the 4G63 is bunk. Shut up and let grown folks talk about what they know.

Oh, and flylwsi, no modification needs to be done to a manifold. Considereing that I have a mitsu turbine housing, there is no reason for me to modify a mitsu manifold. If I were toi use a Garrett, I would need the Tnetics manifold, or try to find the extremely rare HKS manifold. But since my turbo is a Frank2 (Mistsubishi compressor housing and exhuast housing, Garrett wheel) which is an hybrid turbo I can just bolt on. And no, I do not need a "J" pipe for the inducer, Since I have a rotated housing and welded elbow, none is needed. Oh and as far as the rev limiter is concerned, our does not kick in until 7500rpm, which would give us plenty of rom to work with, if an efficient turbo was present.

i understand everything you're saying, but most people won't see an upgraded turbo as a bolt on...

you noted earlier that the manifold would need to be modded, (this thread or the other)...

the point is really about a stock gsx... that's all this is about.

i understand that you're geared to hit those speeds, but stock it's unlikely.

if we can agree on that... that's good enough for me.

it still comes down to aero once you get past a certain point, however...

Funny debate. Obviously the kid was lying. No reply yet? Anyways I would jsut like to hear the definition of bolt on. I upgraded my turbo and only had to change hoses, but it bolted right up, bolt on anyone? The top speed I think t date EVER recorded on a DSM is 179. The car is gearded at 180 so thats the top speed it will ever go. Maybe his car was roling down a hill, a big steep one:rolleyes: I'm not trying to start a debate at all I am just curious.

GSXer and myself have sorted the issue out on our own...

the person that started the thread, platinum_skyline, is now silver_gtr34.

same stupid posts, same stupid replies...

Originally posted by GSXer
KrNxRaCer00 ,

I am amazed for you being such a car buff you would not know the differences between the 4g63 and b18c. One is made from the factory to take boost, and one isnt. Your motor has highr compression for no forced induction purposes, as mine has a lower compression (8.5:1) for forced induction. Not to mention that iron blocks withstand more horsepower than any aluminum block on the market (SR20DET is the ONLY exception) Just incase you didn't know, mitsu has had the variable cam timing technology since the 70's. Don't belive me? Go ahead and do a little research on something that is called MIVEC. I guess us DSMers take the term "BOLT ON" differently from you HONDuh boys. Replacing an intake, putting a Weapon "R" cone, and slapping a 5Zigen muffler on your car is a bolt on? Okay...what ever. Why are you trying to voice your expertise on a Mitsu motor when you dont even know the difference between a N/A motor and ours? Sit down little boy and take a nap...your whole style is chump. Stick to your Fake MUGEN rims and Hype R stickers. Your knowledge on the 4G63 is bunk. Shut up and let grown folks talk about what they know.



no...u mean a car w/ the compression ratio of 10:1 stock doesn't take boost well? wow...im so enlightened :rolleyes: if u seriously think i didn't know that then u jus jump to conclusions about ppl w/ out knowing anything. an how come u keep making references to rice? there is nothing on my car that is rice...no, simple bolt-ons dont add a lot of power, but its a start. u want to argue about motors, then which one will be more reliable, an are better quality out of the box? i guess that one goes to us "honduh boys." hmmm...variable timing...wow...euro companies been using it forever too. i ever say that honda was 1st w/ it? nope...u jus keep bringin up pointless arguements. the technology that mitsu came up w/ back in the 70's was nothing close to the abilities of VTEC. look at the way mitsu is going...u can't compare a N/A motor to a turbo motor. (even tho it takes a turbo for ur "Great" dsm motors to beat a N/A integra).

U SAID U COULD HIT 170 IN A STOCK GSX. u want to talk about b's? well i guess u "DSMer's" jus kno shit cuz u say so huh?

u call them a "hype r?" thats cute...too bad the type r isn't even set-up to go fast in a straight line. try an put ur good ol' dsm against a "Hype" r on an auto cross track an watch ur dsm get it's ass owned stock vs stock.

u seem to hate on anyone that brings any type of arguement against urself, but u are the one who stated bullshit numbers to begin w/. so wuts it gonna be? the gsx can hit 170 stock? answer that question...but, wut do i kno...im jus a lil boy rite? quit HYPING ur car, an get off hondas. nobody said they were easy to tune, but people kno they have jus as much capabilities if not MORE then ur dsm.

GSXer and myself have sorted the issue out on our own...

This convo is old. As far as auto X is concerned, a FWD car will out Maneuver an AWD vehicle? ok...sure. When it comes to weight, it might (I do not under emphisize "Might"). Dont get me wrong, there are plenty of Hondas out there that are very impressive. Yet, let me ask you a question, How can a honda compare with a DSM? I'm sorry, but last time I checked, a honda owner would have to Sleeve the block/Swap pistons/Rods/Rings/Struts/ECU (Sometimes)/valve springs/retainers/intake manifold to make a honda susceptible to boost over 9lbs on pump gas and daily driven. But allmotor is another thing. Stripping the car to bare essentials like seat and gauges does make a hatch pretty quick. But hey...whatever floats your boat. You guys may have the weight...but we have the HP's to boot. Sorry, its the truth. Answer this, can a honda handle 400hp with stock internals? ....nope


This is my official last post on this thread. Go ahead and post some thing if you feel compelled to do so, yet your honda is still going to be slower than me. Have a nice day. :flipa:

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Now where can I get one of those stylish t-shirts???

u still didn't answer the ONE question that was asked...170 stock? hmmm...seem to be avoiding that one. but wuteva...u can think wut u want about hondas, cuz ppl kno the truth. i never said dsm's are fast, i kno they can be, an are. BUT by no means are they faster then hondas in the long run.

last thing before i unsubscribe from this...i'd like to see ur AWD beat the Type R in pro autocrossing...really would (stock vs stock)

whoa there...
stop...
he and i already discussed this, and realized that the topic was misunderstood...

get over it...