Hello everyone, I registered on this forum just because I have this new info for everyone in the U.S. who has waited forever for this car. I'm not releasing it yet, but I'll probably be posting it in a week or so, so watch for new posts. You know what's up!
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so when are ya going to post the HARD INFO u have? haha so i see tat you posted it costs around $30K to $35K? so it must be around 276hp? not detuned am i right? wooHoO! i hope so!
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I hate to say it but the only EVO we will get is a detuned version. I have be searching through the internet and on every stat I have found for the 276 hp version has also said 97+ octane gas only. So that means unless they do some major retuning for 92 octane we will get a detuned version. Unfortunately when running boost more octane means more power. Sport Compact Car seems to think that the EVO will definitely be brought over as early as October of next year but to compete with the WRX. In my mind that means it will need to be under $30k to get a piece of the pie. I am still waiting for xencloud to give some hard answers, but he seems to be waiting until everyone else speaks first. C'mon man throw us a bone before your news is worthless.
Alright, anybody who wants the good info can MAIL me! That will get rid of all the lazy-asses. No lazy-asses can have the inside line on such a spectacular car! My e-mail should be under my info, but if it isn't let me know via forum. Anyway, hope to hear from the you guys, please don't bash me for hoarding these things, I just want mine first!
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To the people that are saying if evos are brought to the US they will be slower and or detuned because they use 97 octane in Japan. Using higher octane does not neccessarily mean more power or performance. Octane is a rating of the gas' likeliness to pre-ignation aka knock or ping. For example if a car can run with zero degrees of knock retard on 1.2 bars of boost on 93 octane, using higher octane will not produce anymore power or performance. As the boost is turned up, higher octane is required to prvent pre-ignition. I dont have any experience with evos so i dont know what octane is required to run sJap tock boost levels safely in the US.
peace, mike
waiting for US Evos
If I'm not mistaken, Sport Compact Car's latest issue features the EVO VII in which they've also printed "COMING TO AMERICA : EVOLUTION" in bold. It'll be detuned to match the WRX's performance, and it'll be around $24,000.
So ummm it's all good isn't it? I think so! :frog:
As i said in my previous post it says 97 or greater has to be used, in my mind meaning that if they shipped it over here as is 92 octane would not cut it and the computer would automatically start retarding the timing. At least this is what i was trying to say in my previous post. I would say that 275 hp is still attainable from the EVO motor but with additional tuning. Either way i have no idea what mitsu will bring so i guess we will see.
Man, i'm running out to get a sport compact now, because if superposition is right, I hope they do tune it to the wrx's standard and reduce the price(although I doubt it, but regardless, I'm getting one)), because it would be so easy to modify it to meet and exceed the original motor, which would blow any wrx away(and just about anything else on the road). By the way, the 280 hp claimed by mitsubishi is a technicality. For everyone who's mailed me, add this to your info, the guy in CA claimed that they only had to de-tune it because it was producing well over that, more like 320-330hp+. I have a mag from the UK to confirm that, because it had some evo 6's (exact same engine)with minor mods like just an exhaust and intake, and on the dyno, these cars were producing 340-350 hp!!! The mag mentioned how mitsubishi greatly under-rated the engine to meet the law in japan. As everyone knows, no car in japan can "officially" produce over 280hp, so all sports cars, even skylines are rated at 280hp. Man, I can't wait!
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the 276hp rule isnt a law but a gentleman's agreement between the car manufacturers to keep from going through the horsepower wars that america had in the 60's. I have read rumors that the manufacturers are going to raise the limit to 320 hp. Either way dont believe any of the manufacturer's hp claims, the skyline has been underrated for years. Considering that the R33 had 276hp and when the new R34 came out with claimed engine refinements and a heavier chasis it somehow put up better 0-60 and better 1/4 mile times. Go figure.
subaru is supposed to bring the WRX STi over to the U.S. not to long from now.... so mitsubishi will have to bring over the full 280hp evo or else they'll have no chance of competing
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The wrx STi won't be hitting u.s. shore until next fall is what I've read so far. They are planning on releasing it as a 2003 model. As I've told everyone who mailed me, the evo vii will be here bfore that, but it will be de-tuned. I'm guessing that's why they're getting the jump on subaru time-wise. Because if they had to de-tune the evo, the specs on the two cars wouldn't match up, subaru would have a definite advantage if they were both released together around the same time. People would say, "ame price, same specs, but the STi has 280hp, and evo has less! So I'll go with the STi" I mean, anyone who has done some research would know that the evo vii is still potentially a much better performing car with like one or two relativley cheap mods(I mean the potentially de-tuned U.S. version here, the japanese standard version is already better with no mods at all) But you can't count on people to research cars around theW/ll the media, people would take one look at the hp spec and say, " Hey, my STi is the shiznit, man, I can beat all those stupid evo's, UHuHuHuh!" Idiots like that don't take time to look at the fact that the turbo on the wrx's isn't as good, and doesn't give power over a broad range like the evo. That's also why they're probably only shipping a limited number of evo vii's. I can't wait for someone to pull up next to me with an STi, man. They will see exactly who's mis-informed and who's read up on their stuff. There's a lot of mis-guided people because of all the myths floating around. There's about fifty volumes that could probably be written about the stories behind these two cars! All I can say is that everybody who's ridden in an evo vii knows the specs are way off, it's a much underrated car, and it will continue to be underrated, but for people who know their stuff, it's a way to show everyone that hey, YOU may THINK you know your cars, but I REALLY know what's up!
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Will the EVO VII that comes to america.. be detuned to around 230 hp or Detuned to 280 hp?! i Hope it fully comes 280hP.. shouldnt it? if it costs 33k-36k? it should!
I think Mitsubishi of America shouldnt just bring one to compete WRX but to also compete STi then..
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Good point! I hadn't thought of that. It depends on if they want to rate the car accurately. It could go four ways. They don't de-tune it(Idon't think this is much of a possibility at this point, it's far from meeting emissions standards at that power) and say it has 280hp when it's really like 320. They de-tune it to 280 and say it has 280--wow, an accurate figure! They could de-tune it to 230 to "officially" match the wrx, but it could be really around 280. Or they could actually de-tune it to 230, which I also think is not likely considering the price, but you never know. I think no matter what they do to it, they will leave it possible to get it back up to 320 or so just like the rest of the world. All I'm really interested in knowing is what exactly they're doing to it. Consider this, even if they do de-tune it to a measely 230, but for $1500, you can get the car up to not only the original 320 hp, but a whopping 400+ hp, isn't it still worth buying one? I mean, if you're spending that much cash, what's an extra $1500. I think those hp figures are easily attainable on this car. I have a Japanese Performance magazine where all they did was tweek the car, I mean , listen to this list of parts they added--exhaust, intake, fuel cotroller, fuel-pressure regulator, boost pressure revision kit, fuel pump re-wiring. As far as I know, none of those are big$ pieces of equipment, and they got this car tuned to an every-day driver that did 340hp at the wheels, which is probably slightly over 400 under the hood. Even if it's de-tuned to 230, and they don't do any permanent damage to the engine, it's still worth it, just from it's potential. Sure, it sucks the manufacturer couldn't have just given you the car at 320hp, but if you were going to tweek it anyway, the only extra part you'd have to add to that list would be a new chip that doesn't limit the engine. Also about the gas octane question, I heard shell was considering bringing optimax gas over to the u.s.(like 98 octane I think), is this true?
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Evo VII in U.S.-I have hard info
