300ZX N/A...more power!
skln09
06-11-2007, 12:10 AM
hello guys, I own a red 1993 5spd 300ZX 2+2 NA....I loooove the car, but I was wondering if it is anyway to increase performance on my car without doing the TT swap or supercharging the VG30DE...I live in Costa Rica, only 18 Z's in the country and I am a lucky one, anyway, what can I do to make my Z faster?!
DeleriousZ
06-11-2007, 12:55 AM
turbocharge it...
unless you don't want to run a massive shot of nitrous then your n/a isn't going to be fast
unless you don't want to run a massive shot of nitrous then your n/a isn't going to be fast
skln09
06-11-2007, 12:59 AM
what about the high compression of the engine, I wouldn't be able to run more than 6psi safely, wouldn't I?
DeleriousZ
06-11-2007, 01:43 AM
i meant the turbo engine... the 10:1 would limit your boost options... but you'd probably be better off swapping it out for a lower mileage unit anyway.
either way, fast n/a's are few and far between.... the ones that are fast have had way way way way more money put into them than a turbo model of the same power has.
either way, fast n/a's are few and far between.... the ones that are fast have had way way way way more money put into them than a turbo model of the same power has.
skln09
06-11-2007, 09:47 AM
so there is nothing I can do to improve performance, the only option is the swap?.....it will be hard to get, and the shipment will not be cheap
PD: my engine has 97k on the odo
edit: I found a jdm front clip for $2,200, plus $550 to ship it to Katy, Texas where I have family, we are talking $2,750, then I have to pay shipment to Costa Rica and I have no idea how to get a price on that, and then I have to pay taxes for the thing whent it enters the country, then I have to get the custom drive shaft that goes for $285 and the exhaust that I dont know for how much it runs, so to summarize:
JDM front clip.....$2750
Driveshaft...........$285
Exhaust..............$500
Total................$3535 + shipping and taxes= around $4500
I paid $6000 for the car, so we are looking at maybe $11500 for a 2+2 TT (labor included, it is VERY cheap down hear and I will put many hours on it also but cannot do it myself) I am sure I can sell the VG30DE with the tranny and get some cash back......most important thing; it would be the only NA to TT swap in the country!!...of course this is a long term project haha
PD: my engine has 97k on the odo
edit: I found a jdm front clip for $2,200, plus $550 to ship it to Katy, Texas where I have family, we are talking $2,750, then I have to pay shipment to Costa Rica and I have no idea how to get a price on that, and then I have to pay taxes for the thing whent it enters the country, then I have to get the custom drive shaft that goes for $285 and the exhaust that I dont know for how much it runs, so to summarize:
JDM front clip.....$2750
Driveshaft...........$285
Exhaust..............$500
Total................$3535 + shipping and taxes= around $4500
I paid $6000 for the car, so we are looking at maybe $11500 for a 2+2 TT (labor included, it is VERY cheap down hear and I will put many hours on it also but cannot do it myself) I am sure I can sell the VG30DE with the tranny and get some cash back......most important thing; it would be the only NA to TT swap in the country!!...of course this is a long term project haha
DeleriousZ
06-11-2007, 07:58 PM
that's true... if you're not worried about the money, you could always rebuild the engine with super high compression pistons (12:1 or so) put some hot hot cams in there and do the rest of the supporting mods.... it'll cost you a crapload of money, especially for the high comp pistons and the tuning, but it'd be a pretty mean n/a setup. That being said you still wouldn't be pushing more than 325-350whp at best...
for making big power in the long run, the turbo engine is always a better option, it just depends how much you're looking for, and how much you're willing to spend to get it started.
for making big power in the long run, the turbo engine is always a better option, it just depends how much you're looking for, and how much you're willing to spend to get it started.
Hodo
06-11-2007, 10:46 PM
You can break 400WHP with a NA Z.... it would cost close to 20K but it can be done.
Stroker kit, Higher compression pistons, agressive street port and polish, HUGE cams, Test-pipes, headers. Larger throttlebodies, TT injectors. Electric fan, underdrive pulleys, oh and a ECU upgrade.
You could break 500WHP with the help of NO2. A 100shot on top of all that and it might make 4 passes in a quater mile before it needs a teardown and rebuild.
Stroker kit, Higher compression pistons, agressive street port and polish, HUGE cams, Test-pipes, headers. Larger throttlebodies, TT injectors. Electric fan, underdrive pulleys, oh and a ECU upgrade.
You could break 500WHP with the help of NO2. A 100shot on top of all that and it might make 4 passes in a quater mile before it needs a teardown and rebuild.
skln09
06-13-2007, 11:34 AM
thanks for the info, 20k is way too much to spend on my NA,I think I'll go with the swap in the long run
robzone0911
06-18-2007, 10:38 PM
so there is nothing I can do to improve performance, the only option is the swap?.....it will be hard to get, and the shipment will not be cheap
PD: my engine has 97k on the odo
edit: I found a jdm front clip for $2,200, plus $550 to ship it to Katy, Texas where I have family, we are talking $2,750, then I have to pay shipment to Costa Rica and I have no idea how to get a price on that, and then I have to pay taxes for the thing whent it enters the country, then I have to get the custom drive shaft that goes for $285 and the exhaust that I dont know for how much it runs, so to summarize:
JDM front clip.....$2750
Driveshaft...........$285
Exhaust..............$500
Total................$3535 + shipping and taxes= around $4500
I paid $6000 for the car, so we are looking at maybe $11500 for a 2+2 TT (labor included, it is VERY cheap down hear and I will put many hours on it also but cannot do it myself) I am sure I can sell the VG30DE with the tranny and get some cash back......most important thing; it would be the only NA to TT swap in the country!!...of course this is a long term project haha
I am doing a TT swap on my convertible, and just to let you know. It's a wiring nightmare if you aren't sure what you are doing. I should finish mine in about another week. If you have any questions just let me know.
PD: my engine has 97k on the odo
edit: I found a jdm front clip for $2,200, plus $550 to ship it to Katy, Texas where I have family, we are talking $2,750, then I have to pay shipment to Costa Rica and I have no idea how to get a price on that, and then I have to pay taxes for the thing whent it enters the country, then I have to get the custom drive shaft that goes for $285 and the exhaust that I dont know for how much it runs, so to summarize:
JDM front clip.....$2750
Driveshaft...........$285
Exhaust..............$500
Total................$3535 + shipping and taxes= around $4500
I paid $6000 for the car, so we are looking at maybe $11500 for a 2+2 TT (labor included, it is VERY cheap down hear and I will put many hours on it also but cannot do it myself) I am sure I can sell the VG30DE with the tranny and get some cash back......most important thing; it would be the only NA to TT swap in the country!!...of course this is a long term project haha
I am doing a TT swap on my convertible, and just to let you know. It's a wiring nightmare if you aren't sure what you are doing. I should finish mine in about another week. If you have any questions just let me know.
skln09
06-23-2007, 01:44 PM
Here are some pics of my Z, it is completelys stock, exept for the radio haha, it came with the car
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/ro903/DSC03188.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/ro903/DSC03192-1.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/ro903/DSC03189.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/ro903/DSC03193.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/ro903/DSC03188.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/ro903/DSC03192-1.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/ro903/DSC03189.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/ro903/DSC03193.jpg
Hodo
06-23-2007, 09:44 PM
I learned this awhile ago. Your wheels are on the wrong sides.
But looks good.
Just realized I still havent taken a more recent pic of my Z with the wheels on right. My front wheels are correct my rear wheels are on the wrong sides in the top picture.
But looks good.
Just realized I still havent taken a more recent pic of my Z with the wheels on right. My front wheels are correct my rear wheels are on the wrong sides in the top picture.
skln09
06-24-2007, 01:02 AM
haha really?? so left front should be switched with right front, and left rear should be switched with right rear?..how can u tell hodo?
Hodo
06-25-2007, 11:18 AM
yep, they just need to be flipped sides. But make sure your tires arent directional otherwise you will have to remount and balance your tires and put them on right too. But you can tell by the pattern of the spokes. They should look like they are fanning foward, like my front wheels in my sig. Not fanning back like my rear wheels in my sig.
Side note, I knew there was a reason why I left the signature that way. To show the wrong and right ways for the rims to be on a Z32. At least thats my excuse and I am sticking to it.
Side note, I knew there was a reason why I left the signature that way. To show the wrong and right ways for the rims to be on a Z32. At least thats my excuse and I am sticking to it.
blingboy69
06-25-2007, 08:33 PM
Damn mine are wrong too. But hopefully i wont have them for long
ginsu2death
08-18-2008, 12:58 AM
-550cc Injectors (TT versions stillen makes them so does RC Engineering)
-Individual throttle bodies 55mm which gives you about a 330mm throttle body overall. (Universal Kit)
-Unorthodox Ultra SS pulleys
-Adj Fuel Pressure Regulator (AEM Univ. Or Nismo Upgrade)
-Stillen Engine Damper (Helps transfer the power to the wheels and also fixes power steering hose kinking problem)
-Weight Reduction, just rip extra interior parts out 300zx's weigh about 3900lbs.
-Larger Intake manifold through street concepts (scpower.com)
-Larger Cams/ Adj Cam gears.
Flash the Ecu or get a Standalone and you should be in about the 400hp range.
-Individual throttle bodies 55mm which gives you about a 330mm throttle body overall. (Universal Kit)
-Unorthodox Ultra SS pulleys
-Adj Fuel Pressure Regulator (AEM Univ. Or Nismo Upgrade)
-Stillen Engine Damper (Helps transfer the power to the wheels and also fixes power steering hose kinking problem)
-Weight Reduction, just rip extra interior parts out 300zx's weigh about 3900lbs.
-Larger Intake manifold through street concepts (scpower.com)
-Larger Cams/ Adj Cam gears.
Flash the Ecu or get a Standalone and you should be in about the 400hp range.
Hodo
08-18-2008, 01:43 AM
-550cc Injectors (TT versions stillen makes them so does RC Engineering)
-Individual throttle bodies 55mm which gives you about a 330mm throttle body overall. (Universal Kit)
-Unorthodox Ultra SS pulleys
-Adj Fuel Pressure Regulator (AEM Univ. Or Nismo Upgrade)
-Stillen Engine Damper (Helps transfer the power to the wheels and also fixes power steering hose kinking problem)
-Weight Reduction, just rip extra interior parts out 300zx's weigh about 3900lbs.
-Larger Intake manifold through street concepts (scpower.com)
-Larger Cams/ Adj Cam gears.
Flash the Ecu or get a Standalone and you should be in about the 400hp range.
Ok you dug up a 1 year 2 month old thread....
next... after you spend 10Gs on something that you could have done for 5Gs and made 450BHP... Hmm...
Next the weight of the Z32 is NOT 3900lbs. Even with a fat chick in it.
3900lbs is Altima weight.
Z32 is around 3300-3500 depending on model.
-Individual throttle bodies 55mm which gives you about a 330mm throttle body overall. (Universal Kit)
-Unorthodox Ultra SS pulleys
-Adj Fuel Pressure Regulator (AEM Univ. Or Nismo Upgrade)
-Stillen Engine Damper (Helps transfer the power to the wheels and also fixes power steering hose kinking problem)
-Weight Reduction, just rip extra interior parts out 300zx's weigh about 3900lbs.
-Larger Intake manifold through street concepts (scpower.com)
-Larger Cams/ Adj Cam gears.
Flash the Ecu or get a Standalone and you should be in about the 400hp range.
Ok you dug up a 1 year 2 month old thread....
next... after you spend 10Gs on something that you could have done for 5Gs and made 450BHP... Hmm...
Next the weight of the Z32 is NOT 3900lbs. Even with a fat chick in it.
3900lbs is Altima weight.
Z32 is around 3300-3500 depending on model.
skln09
08-18-2008, 10:37 PM
its been a looooong time, no sign of doing the swap yet, but the car has come a long way
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/ro903/rallyjaco34.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/ro903/rallyjaco44.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/ro903/rallyjaco47.jpg
this was an onroad rally kinda thing we did like 3 weeks ago
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/ro903/rallyjaco34.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/ro903/rallyjaco44.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/ro903/rallyjaco47.jpg
this was an onroad rally kinda thing we did like 3 weeks ago
Hodo
08-24-2008, 07:49 PM
Looks good, but looks like its almost time for a new front end. Your front bumper is a little beat up. What exhaust is that, doesnt look like the HKS, Stillen?
skln09
08-25-2008, 10:04 PM
thanks!!...yes, I'm getting a '99 JDM front bumper next month, exhaust is custom made in one piece, mufflers are also custom made at the same local shop, you can se it better in this pic:
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/ro903/resized.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/ro903/resized.jpg
...ladies
08-30-2008, 08:43 AM
i like the radio. but ya there are a few things you can do. lightweight pulleys. down pipe, exhuast, performance air intake, ect. just check ebay for an idea. just do some research. its prolly already been said on here. havent read through the whole thing. you can get your n/a running about the 300hp of a tt. but the price would be very close to that of a swap.
bjdm151
09-02-2008, 10:37 AM
Anyboduy know what these the n/a cars put down to the wheels stock??
Hodo
09-02-2008, 01:42 PM
Well Bjdm,
seeing as the NA is only 222BHP. Most dynos I have seen of mostly stock NAs have been around 170RWHP.
seeing as the NA is only 222BHP. Most dynos I have seen of mostly stock NAs have been around 170RWHP.
Andrewhuffman
09-04-2008, 09:48 PM
i think its more than that, but it also depends on the mileage.
Andrewhuffman
09-04-2008, 10:10 PM
"-Individual throttle bodies 55mm which gives you about a 330mm throttle body overall. (Universal Kit)"
No way in hell.
lets do some math. one 55mm TB is apx 2375sqmm in area.
2375 x 2 = 4750sqmm in total area.
a 78mm TB is apx 4778sqmm
a 330mm TB is apx 85530sqmm.
so two 55mm Tbs is liek one 78mm Tb.
No way in hell.
lets do some math. one 55mm TB is apx 2375sqmm in area.
2375 x 2 = 4750sqmm in total area.
a 78mm TB is apx 4778sqmm
a 330mm TB is apx 85530sqmm.
so two 55mm Tbs is liek one 78mm Tb.
...ladies
11-06-2008, 08:54 PM
Just get the strongest internals you can find. have them installed with like a 200 shot of nitrous or something fun lol
Vegas300zx
01-14-2009, 06:29 PM
Brokeas**** has a stickied thread about giving more power to your Z (even n/a). But as far as an intake goes im pretty much stuck between a JWT pop charger and the injen intake. btw my car is also an n/a. any suggestions? :iceslolan
amandico26
05-22-2009, 09:53 PM
hey dude can i ask a few questions here, how do you know there is only 18 z' in the country, i boght mine abouth 5 months ago since then i been working on the engine swap, but i did not boght a front clip i bougt an vg30dett on ebay and everything else i need to on ebay if u go to nissanclubcr.com look fro projects fairlady z that is my car i'm still working on it but just in case if u already did the swap i need some help if not i can help you a little bit i live in curridabat just in case but i find myself in new york right know so hit me if u need help or if u finish the swap thanks!!!!
amandico26
05-22-2009, 09:55 PM
so there is nothing I can do to improve performance, the only option is the swap?.....it will be hard to get, and the shipment will not be cheap
PD: my engine has 97k on the odo
edit: I found a jdm front clip for $2,200, plus $550 to ship it to Katy, Texas where I have family, we are talking $2,750, then I have to pay shipment to Costa Rica and I have no idea how to get a price on that, and then I have to pay taxes for the thing whent it enters the country, then I have to get the custom drive shaft that goes for $285 and the exhaust that I dont know for how much it runs, so to summarize:
JDM front clip.....$2750
Driveshaft...........$285
Exhaust..............$500
Total................$3535 + shipping and taxes= around $4500
I paid $6000 for the car, so we are looking at maybe $11500 for a 2+2 TT (labor included, it is VERY cheap down hear and I will put many hours on it also but cannot do it myself) I am sure I can sell the VG30DE with the tranny and get some cash back......most important thing; it would be the only NA to TT swap in the country!!...of course this is a long term project haha
dude i'm doing it diferent i can help you!!! don't spent so much money
PD: my engine has 97k on the odo
edit: I found a jdm front clip for $2,200, plus $550 to ship it to Katy, Texas where I have family, we are talking $2,750, then I have to pay shipment to Costa Rica and I have no idea how to get a price on that, and then I have to pay taxes for the thing whent it enters the country, then I have to get the custom drive shaft that goes for $285 and the exhaust that I dont know for how much it runs, so to summarize:
JDM front clip.....$2750
Driveshaft...........$285
Exhaust..............$500
Total................$3535 + shipping and taxes= around $4500
I paid $6000 for the car, so we are looking at maybe $11500 for a 2+2 TT (labor included, it is VERY cheap down hear and I will put many hours on it also but cannot do it myself) I am sure I can sell the VG30DE with the tranny and get some cash back......most important thing; it would be the only NA to TT swap in the country!!...of course this is a long term project haha
dude i'm doing it diferent i can help you!!! don't spent so much money
Hodo
05-22-2009, 10:12 PM
hey dude can i ask a few questions here, how do you know there is only 18 z' in the country, i boght mine abouth 5 months ago since then i been working on the engine swap, but i did not boght a front clip i bougt an vg30dett on ebay and everything else i need to on ebay if u go to nissanclubcr.com look fro projects fairlady z that is my car i'm still working on it but just in case if u already did the swap i need some help if not i can help you a little bit i live in curridabat just in case but i find myself in new york right know so hit me if u need help or if u finish the swap thanks!!!!
Dont even know what you are talking about this thread died some year ago. There is a website that you could check your vin number with the Nissan Z32 data base and it would tell you your production numbers. How many with that engine, interiour, and colour package.
Dont even know what you are talking about this thread died some year ago. There is a website that you could check your vin number with the Nissan Z32 data base and it would tell you your production numbers. How many with that engine, interiour, and colour package.
Andrewhuffman
09-09-2009, 09:58 PM
Lol, why would you need a new DS with the TT swap?
Idiot!
Idiot!
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