Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online! Visit IgorSushko.com and see what it's like racing in Japan
-
Google  
Web AF
See Latest Posts
Access AF from your phone - point your mobile browser to http://m.automotiveforums.com
Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Chevrolet > Venture
Closed Thread Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Email this Page Email this Page | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-14-2007, 05:22 PM   #1
trumpandbuddylive
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: dayton, Ohio
Posts: 3
trumpandbuddylive Normal reputation
Temperature guage on the fritz as usual

Hello all...I am trying to get to the bottom of this and after pouring over a heckuva lotta posts about overheating and such I'm scratching my head on my problem. Twoo weeks ago or so my temperature guage went into the red. I pulled over added some dex-cool and it went down to normal (half way ) op range. A few days later it started running hot again so I took it in and needed the intake maifold replaced. Took care of that, the temp guage went back to 1/4 range to a half...two days later it shoots straight back into the red....and pins there....i took it back in..they hooked it up to the computer and the computer said the engine was operating at 195 degrees....my gauage read in the red....so they switched the sensor....it went back down to the 1/4 mark and 1/2 mark on the temperature gauge....now two days later the temperature guage is behaving badly again...it operated in the 1/4 to halfway mark for one day...now today it pinned at the half way mark for one of my trips....this afternoon its creeped to the 3/4 mark and pinned there....the interesting thing is it never goes back to zero like it used to when the engine is shut down....(at least i think it used to go to zero when i shut it down, its been behaving oddly so much I've lost track),,,anyone have any ideas....?
trumpandbuddylive is offline  
Old 05-15-2007, 02:05 PM   #2
trumpandbuddylive
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: dayton, Ohio
Posts: 3
trumpandbuddylive Normal reputation
Re: Temperature guage on the fritz as usual

Update...this morning I turned on the van and it ran up to the 3/4 mark and pinned there......i parked the car and the guage pinned at the 3/4 mark...i turned the engine off and it went doen about 3 ticks...i turned the ignition key off and on again and it went down three more ticks, i did it two more times and it went to zero finally...10 minutes ago i drove it and it pinned just below the red and is stuck there......chevy custoner service called me up last night and said they never heard of something like this happening before....
trumpandbuddylive is offline  
Old 05-15-2007, 02:31 PM   #3
cjstew4
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 208
cjstew4 Normal reputation
Re: Temperature guage on the fritz as usual

Are both your cooling fans kicking on when the needle hits 1/2 and above. They should. Did you have the thermostat at least replaced when you did the intake gasket. Although I assume that the old coolant was not reused when they did your intake, please confirm. Did they pressure test or at least flush out your radiator? Did they check for any coolant in the oil, are you blowing any white smoke (vapor) leading to a possible head gasket leak as well? No other coolant leaks anywhere? Near the water pump or at hoses crossing behind your front three spark plugs, or at the hoses above and behind your t-stat?
cjstew4 is offline  
Old 05-15-2007, 06:06 PM   #4
GregA
AF Enthusiast
 
GregA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: SF Bay Area, California
Posts: 795
GregA Normal reputation
Re: Temperature guage on the fritz as usual

Quote:
Originally Posted by trumpandbuddylive
..they hooked it up to the computer and the computer said the engine was operating at 195 degrees....my gauage read in the red....anyone have any ideas....?
The temperature gauge moves based on a signal from the PCM (computer) that is sent to the instrument panel, and then goes through a processor there (it is NOT a direct reading from the sensor).

Also, the fans will not turn on until the temperature of the coolant reaches about 225 degrees. This will probably only happen if you are NOT moving while the engine is running for some time (like parked or stuck in traffic).

I suspect that there is a problem in the instrument panel, possibly the gauge itself, or the connection to it. When you turned the key on and off multiple times and got different readings, that says (to me) there is an electronic problem.

Let us know what happens.

Take Care,
__________________
Greg A.
2001 Chevy Venture w/some "enhancements" ~ 72K Miles (July 2007)
1992 Jeep Cherokee Laredo, 4.0L, Automatic ~ 131K Miles (July 2007)
GregA is offline  
Old 05-23-2007, 01:19 PM   #5
trumpandbuddylive
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: dayton, Ohio
Posts: 3
trumpandbuddylive Normal reputation
Re: Temperature guage on the fritz as usual

Hello all, I'm about to go get this thing checked one more time. But in answer to your questions, the fans work, the pressure test came back fine, there's no leaks anywhere (external!), the over flow is full, the thermostat was not changed just the temperature sensor, no white smoke or vapor, i still do the trick with the guage by turning the key on and off to reset it to zero for fun and giggles.....will keep you informed
trumpandbuddylive is offline  
Old 05-23-2007, 04:49 PM   #6
cjstew4
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 208
cjstew4 Normal reputation
Re: Temperature guage on the fritz as usual

Unless the shop tested the t-stat and said it was good, I would have replaced it when they did the intake manifold gasket. Just replacing the t-stat may run you about $300 US now since it may have to be done separately. Usually a full overflow means bad t-stat or other blockage, major air in system, etc. I would bleed both (hose at t-stat housing, and bleeder screw near water pump to make sure that that is not your problem.
cjstew4 is offline  
Old 01-27-2008, 09:54 AM   #7
nfountai
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Gainesville, Florida
Posts: 2
nfountai Normal reputation
Re: Temperature guage on the fritz as usual

Quote:
Originally Posted by cjstew4
Unless the shop tested the t-stat and said it was good, I would have replaced it when they did the intake manifold gasket. Just replacing the t-stat may run you about $300 US now since it may have to be done separately. Usually a full overflow means bad t-stat or other blockage, major air in system, etc. I would bleed both (hose at t-stat housing, and bleeder screw near water pump to make sure that that is not your problem.

I'ved had the same problem with my temp gauge and my speedomoter. Flip the ignition several times at a stopped possition and it all returns to normal most times. Does this mean it needs a new computer?
nfountai is offline  
Old 01-27-2008, 01:16 PM   #8
'97ventureowner
AF Moderator
 
'97ventureowner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: syracuse, New York
Posts: 8,938
'97ventureowner Normal reputation
Re: Temperature guage on the fritz as usual

Please check the date of the last post in the thread and avoid posting in that thread if it's beyond 90 days. You can start a new thread and link to the old one if you wish.
Closed.
__________________
Thought for the Day… Alcohol does not make you fat - It makes you lean... against tables, chairs, floors, walls and ugly people.


If a prostitute here in America loses her job to a prostitute in India , is that considered "outwhoring"??-Jay Leno

" A Good Thing To Know"
'97ventureowner is offline  
 
 
 
 
Closed Thread

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD


Bookmarks
Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Chevrolet > Venture

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:14 AM.

Google  
Web AF
Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
no new posts