So a bunch of people think it would be close huh? no not really. My best friend owns one, I've driven it so often, I know exactly what its made of.

So Im heading to work and a guy in a 06 with the Tribeca style nose comes buzing down the road and starts tailing me. Due to traffic he swings around and pulls past me very slowly. (we where going 40 mph in midday traffic :screwy: ) But I guess since his lane was a bit quicker then mine he thought he was smoking hot! He leaves me at a light and I figure fuck it, I know what I can do.

Three blocks later I catch up and we start playing around pulling on each other but the road is a bit crowded so nothing crazy.
Finally by sheer luck we get a light and I lower my window.
me: this is it bro you gonna play?
him: Dude I got AWD, your just gonna loose.
me: I can tell, but Im not stock so your gonna have to launch hard okay. seriously Im cammed and bored out with re-enforced diff and launch control. I get 1.7 60 times consecutively and Im rolling on 580 WHP! so you fucking rev that biotch to 7K and drop it!
him: (eyes bulgeing out) ..................oh, shit dude........uhmmm I dont know.
me: okay okay, I'll take off the launch control and put the traction on. but seriously crank that bitch up and drop the clutch hard bro!
him: uhhmmmm......okay.

Light goes green and just as I expected he pussy foots it off the line. I roll onto it slow but forget it, once Im past the point of traction loss (3K) I gun it and he falls back. The STI's tranny is not meant for straight line accel. You have to shift too often and too quickly. I can hold 1st to 6K and he will have shifted to 2nd and topping. By the time Im half way through 2nd he will be entering 3rd. Its just a loss of time and ground. I had two cars by 3rd gear.

See all those mags crank up the engine and drop it, I know, Ive done it. Thats the only way to achieve 13 second 1/4 miles. But if you own it you dont wanna drop it from rev-limit every single run. if you just roll onto it those cars are only about 14.3-14.5 seconds quick.

Mushy for the win.

P.S. Transformers the movie in theaters 7.4.7
Dont know why I mention that here but transformers rule okay! Fa-Q

Actually the STi's tranny/diff are more durable then the regular WRX. It's not common for them to blow up due to launching at catastrophic rpms. Most of the problems i've heard of with them is people not dyno tuning them with mods, and engine failure happening shortly thereafter. Ehh, they are 13 sec. cars, but it's like you said.

Mod wise though, don't run into someone that knows WTF they are doing with the car. Shiv got 350whp with very little mods on one with his dyno (Your car would probably put down around 310whp on his dyno, it's that conservative).

Anyways, good kill. Your buddy drives like a sissy.

when you said he rolled off the launch you automatically won the race....this is true though....stock if you dont launch AWD cars like they are supposed to be launched or bog the launch then your 13s pass your supposed to get turns into a 14-15s pass....happens all the time....as far as the trannys or diffs going out on STIs they actually are pretty stout...compared to the EVO....about 5 redline launches on a EVO say good by to your stock clutch....and a few after that say good by to your T-case....but I still would prefer a EVO over an STI.....

I would have put my money on you whether or not he launched. It would have been nice to see how he did with a good launch though.

to bad he didnt launch it. . .nice kill though. I didnt realise you had all that done to your GTO :rofl:

I agree with you on the STI not being as fast as the hype. I ran one on the highway a year or so ago with the mustang and nobody was gaining ground. I am sure he had a better shot from a dig, but as it stood, it wasn't all that fast to me.

560 huh :biggrin:

Now he's gonna go home and say he almost hung with a 560rwhp GTO. Would have been nice to see that one from 0-110. Nice kill.

nice kill man whats gonna be your next upgrade?

nice kill man whats gonna be your next upgrade?


All the things he Bullshitted to the guy about. :rofl:

this really depends on the driver.

true story guys.

my two really good friends, one owns a 360+whp bpu supra and the other owns a 260-270whp STi. they both raced from a dig. since the STi owner knew he was short around 100whp, he showed the supra friend no mercy. he launched the sucker at 7K and smoked the supra by bus lenghts down the 1/4. the supra owner ( matt spoke to him before, ( its ben or chilisauce ) and he launched with the traction control on, and he doesn't drag race.

but once they both go rolling after that crazy take off, the supra wasn't gaining ground at all. this happend on the same day the supra just got dynoed at 360+whp.

to bad he didnt launch it. . .nice kill though. I didnt realise you had all that done to your GTO :rofl:
Eh, I figured if I BSed him enough he would freak out and foul up. I didnt expect him to wuz out though.

nice kill man whats gonna be your next upgrade?
A baby seat! :icon16:
Well Im makeing enough power for now. Its my daily and I intend to keep it reliable as opposed to sick fast. If I add more power shit will start breaking. I hang out with loads of GTO drivers. Most run low 12s or 11s but they break crap all the time! thats just how it is.

Also I wanna tune the Redline so most of the money is gonna go into that one for now.

All the things he Bullshitted to the guy about. :rofl:

LOL...

Good run though, Mushman...

The baby seat sounds like a reasonable future upgrade since you're going to be carrying all that extra weight in the car soon... :icon16:

Does Recaro make baby seats? haha

you should get one with a steering wheel,six speed stick, and pedals
hey, yah gotta teach um young

His kid is going to be 'heel-toe' trained before he learns to not crap his pants.


Both skills are impressive. I'm still learning the latter of the two... http://smiliesftw.com/x/hsrun.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)

Yeah actually I did buy a Recaro baby seat already, its blue to match the GTO's interior. pics when it arrives.

Recaro even makes carriers and strollers but I couldnt get them to ship me one. They're only available in Europe far as I can tell.

Yeah actually I did buy a Recaro baby seat already, its blue to match the GTO's interior. pics when it arrives.

Recaro even makes carriers and strollers but I couldnt get them to ship me one. They're only available in Europe far as I can tell.

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Hehe.

The STi doesn't need to be have the piss revved out of it like the Evo. That extra half liter of displacement gets that little VF39 turbo going pretty good by 2K RPM's. I believe the factory ECU limits boost in 1st gear anyways so you're pretty much wasting your time revving over 5K on the stock tune IIRC. It was a nice kill but the first 1/8 mile should have been his if he'd ever launched the car before. The GTO is no doubt the faster car however.

Most of what I know about STi's has been observed and/or overheard while getting my Evo tuned when I used to go to Gruppe-S. Mike Warfield, now with GST, has been tuning those turbocharged scoobie boxers for a long time, going back to his time in England. He's got a couple WRX's he races for rally and another I saw one Saturday on SPEED channel racing in Utah on tarmac. Needless to say the guy knows his stuff. My understanding is that with the new gearing and larger turbo new to the '07 model they're a much easier car to drive 0-100mph - as any rally inspired car SHOULD be in the first place. They also flow much better on the top-end, which has always been a criticism of the USDM STI since it hit our shores for MY04.

As much fun as it is to street race these little AWD turbocharged cars, they're not truly in their element until you put them on a closed course. I'm not making excuses or backing down from the pushrod V8 crowd. I'll beat far more of them than I'll lose to running around in a 11 second Evo. I'm just stating a fact. Yeah we can get stupid crazy with the big turbos and beat some big V8's if that's your thing, but is it worth the 5.5K RPM's of lag? After riding shotgun in a few autox events recently I have a new found respect for certain platforms. The E36 M3 is one of them. The Lotus Elise, Corvette, and Viper are a few others. Unfortunately the GTO is not one of them. My younger brother owns one and it's truly a straight line terror off the showroom floor with extra power potential out the pooper, but it's more boat that goat. It feels disconnected and floaty and it's damn heavy too. What made it even more frustrating was that Pontiac had the blue print for success and spit on it. Somewhere between the port of Sidney and the board room in Detroit, GM decided it wasn't concerned with cornering. Ask an American if his GTO handles well and he'll pop the hood and show you the V8. Ask an Aussie how his Monaro handles and he'll take you for a ride. I don't get it. (flame suit on)

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Hehe.
:iagree:

After riding shotgun in a few autox events recently I have a new found respect for certain platforms. The E36 M3 is one of them. The Lotus Elise, Corvette, and Viper are a few others. Unfortunately the GTO is not one of them. My younger brother owns one and it's truly a straight line terror off the showroom floor with extra power potential out the pooper, but it's more boat that goat. It feels disconnected and floaty and it's damn heavy too. What made it even more frustrating was that Pontiac had the blue print for success and spit on it. Somewhere between the port of Sidney and the board room in Detroit, GM decided it wasn't concerned with cornering. Ask an American if his GTO handles well and he'll pop the hood and show you the V8. Ask an Aussie how his Monaro handles and he'll take you for a ride. I don't get it. (flame suit on)


^ well the USDM GTO has a few weld points set differently then the Monaro. The gas tank is also smaller and relocated to the trunk and there are a few strut bars encassing the gas tank that throw off the rear a bit.
As for showing the engine you know your stereotyping based on what youve seen. Im the type that takes people out for a run rahter then pop the hood. People here can be ignorant and assume that because it says "Pontiac" it is fwd and has a V6. I have to remind people that it is a V8.
As far as handling, wow, Im surprised you dont like it.
It may not be exactly point to point with the monaro but its not seconds slower either. Ive had entirely the opposite response in critizism then what you've experienced.

of dourse with the emphasis on speed americans have drag racing and nascrap whereas on the other side of the ocean you've got rally and sweet things like that

darn now i made myself wanna move

of dourse with the emphasis on speed americans have drag racing and nascrap whereas on the other side of the ocean you've got rally and sweet things like that

darn now i made myself wanna move

So...

When's the flight? :grinno:

I would say the same thing about the EVO/STI though. All you have to do is look around these forums and see what most of them are being used for, and its not rally courses. Most people use their cars for drag racing. Its just the facts.

You guys seriously think drag racing is popular to the US and brushed off in other countries? srsly? Okay who here has been to Europe? c'mon show of hands. Okay whos been to Asia? Africa?

Right see Ive been to em and I can tell you drag racing is just as popular there as it is here. In fact the British and the Germans have some nitro and jet cars that would cut sick times even by American drag championship standards.

The STI and the Evo are rally cars but they are also time attack, road racing and AutoX monsters. Lets not say they're not good for drag racing either, Steiner's Evo would mop the floor with my Goat in a 1/4 mile right now!
All I was saying was that in stock trim the STI is not always a 13 second car.

You guys should look up some highway racing and street drag races from Dubai. Those arabs make us all look like chumps.

So...

When's the flight? :grinno: what you wanna come too?
i was thinking germany

Mush i was just saying how straight line speed events are more popular than rally and whatnot in america

so your throwing nascar into the straight line catagory :disappoin

ignorance is bliss. you probably dont know squat about drag racing or nascar.

You guys seriously think drag racing is popular to the US and brushed off in other countries? srsly? Okay who here has been to Europe? c'mon show of hands. Okay whos been to Asia? Africa?

Right see Ive been to em and I can tell you drag racing is just as popular there as it is here. In fact the British and the Germans have some nitro and jet cars that would cut sick times even by American drag championship standards.

The STI and the Evo are rally cars but they are also time attack, road racing and AutoX monsters. Lets not say they're not good for drag racing either, Steiner's Evo would mop the floor with my Goat in a 1/4 mile right now!
All I was saying was that in stock trim the STI is not always a 13 second car.

You guys should look up some highway racing and street drag races from Dubai. Those arabs make us all look like chumps.Dude I've seen some of those video from Dubai! Those guys are nuts. Drifting on public roads at speeds close to 100 mph in Hyundai Excels and Toyota Corrolas.I guess you don't mind living on the edge when you've got 30+ virgins and paradise waiting for you on the other side. The UAE rally (which is competing with the South African rally for inclusion in the 2008 WRC schedule IIRC) is insane too. It's at 400ft below sea level and basically a gut check for any car/driver.

Musashi...I didn't mean to rip on the GTO the way I did. It almost sounded personal after I reread it right now. Not my intention at all and thanks for not taking it that way. I've just yet so see one with a full aftermarket suspension and some weight reduction up close, although I know they're out there...

http://www.peddersusa.com/images/GTO_Snow/DSC_9948.JPG

The Monaro chassis is excellent so you know the potential is there. It's just a little rough around the edges off the showroom floor in the cornering department. I've no doubt a 3500lb GTO with a full coilover setup and some R-compounds would be a potent track day weapon. God knows the engine and its aftermarket are incredible.

so your throwing nascar into the straight line catagory :disappoin

ignorance is bliss. you probably dont know squat about drag racing or nascar.
look im just trying to say that americans are more limited in their motorsports (except for the people here of course)

A baby seat! :icon16:

:lol:
Sara took her first ride in the Trans Am last night.
And of course...I don't get anyone toying with me until she is in the car.
Was just a Neon (non-SRT) anyhow...riced out with dual melon launchers.
He waited until about 30MPH to actually do anything...at which point I was in 3rd gear. I stepped into it...pulled on him. :lol:
I would normally use 1st from a 30MPH roll.
In other words...his car was SLOW!
I was off the throttle by 45MPH. :icon16:

look im just trying to say that americans are more limited in their motorsports (except for the people here of course)

actually id say we are more diverse in our motorsports. we are big into ovals, road courses, and drag racing. in europe and the rest of the world its mostly road courses.

ok you win:bigthumb:

Musashi...I didn't mean to rip on the GTO the way I did. It almost sounded personal after I reread it right now. Not my intention at all and thanks for not taking it that way. I've just yet so see one with a full aftermarket suspension and some weight reduction up close, although I know they're out there...



Nah man its cool. Unfortunetly GTO tunners are not really looking to make it go round corners really well, except for me and a hand full I guess.
We're cool bro. :sunglasse