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94 Prelude SI (me) Vs. Mazdaspeed (him)H23A1Lude 04-15-2007, 03:14 AM So I was on the highway with my brother and this Mazda 6 I think, It was the Mazdaspeed, and he came up on me and so my brother was like "You're gunna lose" So I was like IDC, so he took off and I dropped 3rd on the first race and i pulled on him pretty damn good. Then we do it again, he gets a running start on me, while im going 65, I see him in my mirror comming up fast so I drop 3rd again, and I still pull on him, hitting about 110. He flashed his headlights, came up next to me and was like "Is it stock?" I said no, and he said "Pull into the applebees let me see your engine" So we get to the applebees, he pops his hood, he's got intake, motor mounts, short shifter, and new header, along with racing wheels, tires, and a Carbon Fiber hood. All I have in mine as of now is Ram-Air intake, short shifter bracket, and 2.5" exhaust piping witha small tip. I have some Megan Racing 4-2-1 Headers at my house, and I still need to install them. So yeah, I guess Mazdaspeeds are slow considering an almost-stock prelude SI beat him. So I hear all the lame-ass excuses on why I ate him, and me and my bro just laughes. Ask my brother, it was pretty funny. He's an A-F moderator, I thing he's AudioGuy93DelSol or something. Message me and tell me what you think :] 2000LS1Z28 04-15-2007, 03:24 AM That guy must suck at driving. A Mazdaspeed6 should wax your prelude really bad. Not doubting your kill, just saying that they are not slow. -Jayson- 04-15-2007, 10:54 AM idk, i heard the mazdaspeed6 is a dead horse up top. Who was it on here that did a review on one and said it felt like the turbo just stopped spooling after 5k RPMS? Try it from a dig, he should roast you, otherwise hes one really sucky driver. VR43000GT 04-15-2007, 01:22 PM I think that was Musashi or Gotian. But if I recall right it only does that as you are breaking it in. After break in time I think that it does not shut off anymore so it serves as a a form of protection from breaking something. H23A1Lude 04-15-2007, 01:59 PM Well I beat him a good 3 or 4 times. And he didn't win one. But Idk, I also have a rebuilt engine. But we did a quick race from a red light aka dead stop and I pulled on him again. Oh well :] Musashi3000GT 04-15-2007, 03:02 PM So he had a header on his turbo car right? sure bub! CassiesMan 04-15-2007, 04:07 PM I used to think the same thing Mush, but appearently, we didn't get the memo where headers now also refer to manifolds and all the other non intake or cat back parts of a car... -The Stig- 04-15-2007, 06:08 PM turbo manifold = header ... for the most part. They do the same thing. But one should call a turbo manifold just that. It tends to confuse folks even if they know better. But if he had all that done to the car, I find it hard to believe he got pulled on by a '94 Prelude with not much done to it. Interestingly interesting. Musashi3000GT 04-15-2007, 06:12 PM Well then call it a turbo manifold! :screwy: Still theres no way that a Prelude will pull on a boosted car with 50+ more HP. Its a damn lucky win! I bet the Mazda driver is still kicking himself in the ass, that ougtha teach him to drive it right. AMGalltheway 04-15-2007, 08:32 PM yeah and the preludes 12 years older thats amazing good job H23A1Lude 04-15-2007, 11:26 PM That's the thing. I was reading about the Mazdaspeed and it said it's turbo, but his didn't have one, so I'm guessing he was trying to be all cool and just put the badge on it. -The Stig- 04-15-2007, 11:29 PM I see. Maybe it was an older one? CassiesMan 04-16-2007, 12:16 AM Are you sure he said Mazdaspeed6 and not a Mazda 6s? KamilMk 04-16-2007, 01:03 AM Are you sure he said Mazdaspeed6 and not a Mazda 6s? Lol, maybe it was the 6i... :banghead: -Jayson- 04-16-2007, 09:57 AM lol if there isnt a turbo, hes doesnt have an mazadaSpeed6. Your brother is a queer ass poser. Tell your brother to go drive off a cliff. TheStang00 04-16-2007, 11:16 AM lol if there isnt a turbo, hes doesnt have an mazadaSpeed6. Your brother is a queer ass poser. Tell your brother to go drive off a cliff. to put it politely... lol CassiesMan 04-16-2007, 11:29 AM Seems like it might be that time of the month, eh? doberman_52 04-16-2007, 01:07 PM lol if there isnt a turbo, hes doesnt have an mazadaSpeed6. Your brother is a queer ass poser. Tell your brother to go drive off a cliff.It's not his brothers car, someone elses. His brother was with him. CivRacer95 04-16-2007, 01:23 PM lol if there isnt a turbo, hes doesnt have an mazadaSpeed6. Your brother is a queer ass poser. Tell your brother to go drive off a cliff. Doberman is right. His brother was in the Prelude with him. No need to be making remarks like that anyway Jayson. You know better. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the new Mazdaspeed6's AWD?? Even if it were boosted, at around 65mph, I'm sure his AWD factor would be the resulting factor for him not being able to keep up. On the other hand, you mentioned that you went from a dig as well, and still took him. What year was this car out of curiosity? Depending on what year it is could vary the results. Even still, you mentioned that his car wasn't turbocharged, and that it might possibly be just a badged faker. Well, there's a lot of unknown details right now and a lot of members are going to be questioning a lot of shit. I mean, did you actually see the back of it to see the Mazdaspeed badge? From the sounds of it, you didn't seem to get a good look at it to ven know what it is. Your mods list doesn't exactly make you stand out either. You'd run a mid 15 at best. Either the MS6 was just a plain ass shitty car, the driver sucked, and you fluked out and won, or...I don't know...to many unknown things... AMGalltheway 04-16-2007, 03:34 PM :dunno: Posers make no sense to me if you cant do a good enough job being yourself, why pretend to be something your not? 209 SRT 04-16-2007, 04:02 PM if it was a ms6 he would have lost....h22 in that platform are dogs...just too heavy....mazda 6 on the other hand is even worse especially if he had the 2.3....if it was the v6 then good kill but I doubt you would have even won that one.... Raz_Kaz 04-16-2007, 05:36 PM Ahem, excuse me while I interrupt. The Mazdaspeed6 no matter the year all have the same engine and same specs. And the AWD system is more like an active torque split so really if he was driving a straight line I doubt it would have gone to a 50/50 split. In any case he was still at 100 front so we can rule that out. If it was a speed6 you would have noticed the nice intercooler sitting on top of the engine...and if there wasn't any then you were racing a regular 6s or 6i. And if it was a 6s go kill him because he doesnt know to drive. Most guys are going from low 15's stock to mid-high 14's with a simple intake and better wheels. So if he had all the parts you named he should be hitting mid 14's quite easily which goes to show how starved this car is for air and how shitty the stock tires are. H23A1Lude 04-16-2007, 06:21 PM Ok, that's why my brother isn't a 'queer ass poser' And he knows cars, and it had the Mazdaspeed badge on it, but I know it wasn't turbo, because I know where the turbo would be. So yeaaaaah. Call him a poser. Don't tell me to tell him. It would be a lot more simple if you just PM'd him and told him. H23A1Lude 04-16-2007, 06:22 PM Ahem, excuse me while I interrupt. The Mazdaspeed6 no matter the year all have the same engine and same specs. And the AWD system is more like an active torque split so really if he was driving a straight line I doubt it would have gone to a 50/50 split. In any case he was still at 100 front so we can rule that out. If it was a speed6 you would have noticed the nice intercooler sitting on top of the engine...and if there wasn't any then you were racing a regular 6s or 6i. And if it was a 6s go kill him because he doesnt know to drive. Most guys are going from low 15's stock to mid-high 14's with a simple intake and better wheels. So if he had all the parts you named he should be hitting mid 14's quite easily which goes to show how starved this car is for air and how shitty the stock tires are. Well I for sure didn't see an intercooler, and it was a 6-speed. Maybe he was just one of those GI's who rices our a car and can't drive for shit. Either way it was fun. Raz_Kaz 04-16-2007, 06:25 PM lol, so it was a 06+ 6i or 6s with an automatic transmission? AudioGuy93DelSol 04-16-2007, 09:55 PM lol if there isnt a turbo, hes doesnt have an mazadaSpeed6. Your brother is a queer ass poser. Tell your brother to go drive off a cliff. It never fails... :shakehead -The Stig- 04-16-2007, 10:07 PM eh... keep it civil guys. Sheesh -Jayson-... H23A1Lude 04-16-2007, 10:26 PM Ask my brother. I thing he was just bagged, because I know the MS6 is fast. I mean, my car is pretty quick. And as for my brother being a stupid poser, I don't think many people on here could take an '86 Celcia body and get an '93 MR2 motor, tranny, and ecu, turbo it, and put it in the Celica; in a garage, and make it run. I sure as hell know I can't. Also, judging by the way you type, I dobut you even have the mental capacity to tie your own shoe. -Jayson- 04-17-2007, 07:18 AM ok sorry i went off there, but i was under the impression he fake badged his own M6 to me a MS6. And nothing pisses me off more than fake badging. TheStang00 04-17-2007, 08:06 AM ok sorry i went off there, but i was under the impression he fake badged his own M6 to me a MS6. And nothing pisses me off more than fake badging. you mean i cant put Z06 badging on my mustang? :uhoh: Gotian 04-17-2007, 09:29 AM Wow, how did I miss this one? I call Major BS here actually im changing it and calling ES (Elephant S**T) You did not beat a MS6 with all those mods on, if he had those he would easily have passed the 300hp marker. The only reason I could see him missing the intercooler on top is if it was switched to a front mount. Also I was th eone who did the review on the MS6 and the boost shuts down to 5psi at about 5k rpms and always will regardless of break in unless you upgrade ECU with aftermarket tuning. Mazda put that drop on the ECU programing to protect the engine, but regardless of the drop in power in that area he still has plenty of power before that and dont even say "well what about turbo lag?" Please, the turbo is so small its roughly the size of a fist and spools up at 1900 rpms, also as raz said, it is not a full time AWD system, it's only AWD when launching and if the tires start slipping. So I doubt it was a MS6, couldve been a 6s rebadged as a MS6. And it didnt have a 6speed manual if that was the case, the normal 6's only have a 5 speed manual or 6 speed auto. So No, didnt happen. CivRacer95 04-17-2007, 10:13 AM Wow, how did I miss this one? I call Major BS here actually im changing it and calling ES (Elephant S**T) You did not beat a MS6 with all those mods on, if he had those he would easily have passed the 300hp marker. The only reason I could see him missing the intercooler on top is if it was switched to a front mount. Also I was th eone who did the review on the MS6 and the boost shuts down to 5psi at about 5k rpms and always will regardless of break in unless you upgrade ECU with aftermarket tuning. Mazda put that drop on the ECU programing to protect the engine, but regardless of the drop in power in that area he still has plenty of power before that and dont even say "well what about turbo lag?" Please, the turbo is so small its roughly the size of a fist and spools up at 1900 rpms, also as raz said, it is not a full time AWD system, it's only AWD when launching and if the tires start slipping. So I doubt it was a MS6, couldve been a 6s rebadged as a MS6. And it didnt have a 6speed manual if that was the case, the normal 6's only have a 5 speed manual or 6 speed auto. So No, didnt happen. yeah...we all came to that conclusion half a page ago... Gotian 04-17-2007, 10:44 AM yeah...we all came to that conclusion half a page ago... lol well I was busy! CivRacer95 04-17-2007, 10:57 AM lol well I was busy! Word of advice...DON'T BE BUSY!! :biggrin: AMGalltheway 04-17-2007, 05:01 PM yeah busy is bad Elephant S*** nice one gotian i think i will have to get a ES-O-meter 'cause my BS-O-meter done broke a long time ago... Automotive Network, Inc., Copyright ©2012
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