JD@af

I have been very impressed by the advancements in the sport compact car world, where the bar is being pushed forever higher in tiny four-cylindered cars, as they are continuously lightened and pushed for more power. There are now Hondas on the verge of pushing into the eight-second range in the quarter mile.

Some of those most notable are Stephen Papadakis and Ed Bergenholtz, who are chasing the fastest four-cylindered car in the world, Sakura. This car is capable of quarter mile times in the range of 7.6 to 7.7 seconds.

These cars have their work cut out for them to catch up with the best of the Top Fuel circuit drag racing, but with time, and technology, we may see four cylinders running with the fastest V8's.

DropGXL

Actually I believe Stephan Papadakis is already in the 8's.

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Dark Horse

I'm gettin so sick of people talking about the "Import Scene" who gives a flying fuck.
Maybe some of the little rice burners are in the 8's, but how many of them are street legal? There are THOUSANDS of Camaros and Mustangs runnin around the country with low 8 second E.T's I myself am gettin there (9.89 @ 142) And it takes twice the money to get a fuggin rice burner into the 8's as it does a domestic. In conclusion...F.U.C.K Rice!

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igor@af

oh, dude.... you just started a potentially huge flame... watch em come now.

enzo@af

He may get flamed, but Dark Horse is right. There are...and have been for a long time...V8's out there that run sub-2-second 0-60s on the street. Civics are not sports cars and there are a lot of people out there that think they are. They are Econoboxes, not powerhouses.

It just seems silly to me. It's like trying to turn Pearl Jam into Bach. I guess I just don't understand it.

And, I think the Leblanc Caroline is the fastest 4banger to date.

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-Enzo Ferrari.

Z28 racer

Run what you have, thats what its all about, Although i own only v8's i hang around alot of import drivers, and i prefer the import "scene" to hanging around with narrow minded people because the imports are still evolving, there are still things to do, the hot rod of yesterday, while still on top in my book, are just that, hot rods of yesterday, and are no longer in front of the car community, because nothing new is happening to them, not many new things can be done that werent done 25 years ago. While the imports are still in there infancy, and there is just somthing about doing what your not supposed to. Most people think its a waste of time, but doing somthing new is much more rewarding that building another 350 and putting it in a nova.

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mr2turb

Z28 RACER
i couldnt agree with you more! i cant stand morons that categorize every import car as "rice". the only time the term ever applies is to a civic with 50 stickers and 18 wheels and 5" tip that claims to have run 12s. but, then again most die-hard chevy or ford guys are so ignorant about the power potential of "ricers" that its fun taking their money. walk up to any guy with a big v8 and ask to run em in your puny lil 4 cylinder and its like taking candy from a baby. granted, this doesnt apply to every camaro/firebird/mustang out there cuz they can be made damn fast cars (like anything else) but ive educated my fair share. just my 2 cents,
jeff

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Z28 racer

One of the reasons i try to learn about them is that we have to know our enemys , gotta know what to look for when someone like that comes up to me so i dont get my ass handed to me.

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igor@af

hehe.
I'm just curious,
has anybody ever raced Skyline GT-R?
Try to find Joseph if you do, he owns one and he lives in the NYC. If you do tell him that "Igor said hi".

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Dark Horse

Well, I more or less don't have to worry about gettin beat by a little ricer, How many 9 Second 4-Bangers are driven on the street?.....none around my hunting ground In my book any jap. 4 banger is rice don't like the way i think? Well...I don't give a shit....Blow Me
-The Anti rice

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mr2turb

nice mature comeback. how many 9 second cars are driven on the street period? and i do mean legally. slicks, open exhaust, wheelie bars and parachutes dont count. oh, and ever here of a supra? theres quite a few daily drivers out there that will piss all over your cheerios. what kind of car do you have again? my vr4 will easily be in the 11s with a full leather interior, a/c, incredible stereo, power everthing, and look damn good all at the same time. want to run on the highway? didnt think so. want to autocross? didnt think so. want to ask 100 women (or in your case men) which theyd rather go out in? didnt think so. yeah, you got a real nice car though. is it even a stick--cuz driving the 1/4 straight is pretty challanging--wouldnt want to have to shift too. i would stick with your domestic pos anyway, cuz if you ever bought an import youd have all that time you used to spend working on your car everyday to actually do something. woudnt want that.
jeff

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Dark Horse

I'm talking about my 98 Mustang GT...Full interior, 3 MTX 12" woofers in the back..power everything. The car weighs 3600+
And has a best E.T of 9.896 @ 142.1, And it has a Tremec 6 spd manual, and it doesn't have wheelie bars or a chute. It'll be in the low 9's this spring...when I get my new Blower. And the only probalem I've had out of it was a blown gasket when i ran too much boost without enough intercooler. And how much does your ar weigh?....thats the reason you can get into the 11's easily.

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Dark Horse

Oh yeah, I don't do that gay shit either...And if it's luxury the lady wants I'll pick her up in my Navigator. Not fast, but plenty of room in the back...

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mr2turb

DARKHORSE,
very nice time (especially trap speed) and sounds like a nice car. im by no means a mustang fan but im more than willing to give credit where credit is due. and a question, youre saying you made that pass with a 3 sub soundsystem? between the subs/box/amps and misc wiring it sure isnt doing your 1/4 times any benefit. my car isnt a 1/4 mile car so i have mine for cruise/show purposes. i (unlike you) am open-minded enough to appreciate any type of car done right regardless of brand or where it was made. now, that being said, a high 9 second car on the track isnt the same as on the street. when i said 11s i meant 11s rolling out of the driveway without spray. you obviously had slicks, more than likely a big shot of NOS, rollcage, very high gearing, and race gas for that pass. ill race you any day of the week with no NOS (or ill run with it too), full exhaust, street tires, and pump gas. track times are nice to wave around but rarely reflect what a car will run on the street. i have no problem saying youd kick my ass at the track cuz my car isnt a 1/4 mile car. but at the same time i have no problem saying youd never catch me on a highway run and never ever catch me on a roadcourse. two out of three aint bad. and the particular "ricer" in question is just a lil 3.0 6 cylinder (bored to 3.1) that tips the scales at just over 3700lbs. of course the two upgraded turbos, upgraded intercoolers/pipes, boost controller, custom ecu, full 3" ss exhaust, upgraded fuel system with twin pumps and lines, alcohol injection, nos, je pistons, crower rods, weber cams, slotted rotors/race pads/ss lines, 18" wheels/tires, and a nice shot of NOS doesnt hurt either. nor does around 23lbs of boost.
jeff

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mr2turb

oh, and you wouldnt need a navigator to pick up chicks if you bought a vr4. with a $49k base price in 98 its more $$ than a vette and more exclusive as well. with a mustang you might cruise the trailer parks or being its a gt maybe some highschool chicks if they can figure out which one is yours in the school parking lot. had to say it.....
jeff

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