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mailman30808
01-14-2007, 06:05 PM
The Airbag light will come on and the tach and speedo both stop working. If I start it up and the airbag light is on, none of the gages work. The check engine light stays on (tranny codes) and even that goes out if the airbag light is on. This happens off and on several times a day...HELP!

AlohaBra
01-14-2007, 10:06 PM
Do a search on this forum for:
1. airbag
2. instruments
3. gages

For #1 there is a recall for AB control module
For #2 there is connector problems

mailman30808
01-15-2007, 11:32 PM
Thanks, I know the airbag module has been recalled and I have not went to have it replaced. My Jeep dealer told me that the airbag module failure would only cause the airbag warning light to illuminate and not cause the gages to quit. I did what you said and found loads of info. I am going to take the cluster out and clean all of the connections good and see if that helps, if not I guess I can get the dealer to check it when I take it in for the recall...

AlohaBra
01-16-2007, 03:30 PM
1. The air bag recall is to move the module from under the seat to the center console and to clean out the corrosion.

2. The instrument pack has a connector problem and sometimes pulls out or fries. Pull the I. pack and inspect.

Note: Fog light switches are a known problem also.

mailman30808
01-22-2007, 01:22 PM
I have not taken the cluster out yet due to a cold I have, but I did press on the cluster while the airbag light was on and the gages started back working everytime, I am guessing and hoping for a loose connection. As far as the airbag module goes, I have no center console because it is a mail delivery vehicle, but I do plan on having the module replaced due to the recall. I guess I will have to keep my fingers crossed that it doesn't get in the way of my mail :o)

AlohaBra
01-22-2007, 01:28 PM
I don't think they are going to replace the module. You can just disconnect it and clean the corrosion from the connectors. What they will do is to relocated to a higher location in the Jeep.

scoobytuff
01-24-2007, 03:41 PM
I have seen several Jeeps do this same thing. What I have done and it works 90 percent of the time is to remove the cluster and give the wiring harness a slight twist. This gives the wires a better connection. Usually when this is done you will not have a problem out of it again.

hundahunta
01-25-2007, 08:12 PM
NO: 08-15-99
SUBJECT: Erratic, Intermittent Cluster Operation/Intermittent Air Bag Warning light.
DATE: May 21, 1999
THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN NUMBER 08-20-98 REV. A, DATED OCTOBER 2, 1998, WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES AND NOTED IN THE BOUND TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN BOOK, PUBLICATION NUMBER 81-699-99003. THIS IS A COMPLETE REVISION TO THE PROCEDURE.

OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves installing a repair harness containing a revised instrument cluster connector.

SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
Some vehicles may exhibit an intermittent illumination of the air bag warning light or an intermittent tachometer or speedometer drop out. An Airbag Electronic Control Module (AECM) fault code -"No Cluster CCD BUS " message will be present.

DIAGNOSIS:
Using the DRB III®, read and record all active and stored fault codes in the AECM. This condition is caused by minor oxidation of the BUS circuit terminals at the instrument cluster connector. Electrical terminals will show signs of oxidation, which will appear as darkened lines or marks on the cluster male terminals. These often appear as gray or black marks rather than the appearance of oxidation or corrosion usually associated with higher current carrying circuits. This condition will set a "NO CLUSTER CCD BUS" message. The fault code will usually be stored and not active. THIS TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN WILL NOT ADDRESS FUEL OR OIL PRESSURE GAUGE ISSUES. If this fault code is present, either active or stored perform the Repair Procedure.

PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty Part No. Description
1 05016261AA Cluster Connector Patch Harness
1 04856975 Electric Contact Cleaner
2 04778570 Heat Shrink Tubing


REPAIR PROCEDURE:
THIS REPAIR IS COMPATIBLE WITH DAIMLERCHRYSLER'S MOBILE SERVICE PROGRAM AND DOES NOT REQUIRE HOISTS OR OTHER FULL SERVICE FACILITY SPECIAL EQUIPMENT.


Disconnect the negative battery cable.
Remove the instrument cluster using the procedures outlined in the appropriate servicemanual.
Inspect the male terminals of pins 1 & 2 on the instrument cluster connector labeled CNB (See Figure 1). The oxidation will appear as gray or black lines or marks on the terminals. If any signs of oxidation are present, remove them by gently scraping the terminals with a small flat bladed screw driver until the oxidation is gone. Use of a magnifying glass may be helpful (See Figure 2). Use caution when performing this operation. Do not apply excessive force to the terminals to avoid bending them or damaging the cluster or terminals. Do not use a sharp tool, knife or sand paper, which could remove the protective plating from the terminals. Do not use any cleaner other than p/n 04856975. Other chemical cleaners could damage the instrument cluster.
Clean the male terminals with Electrical Contact cleaner, p/n 04856975. Apply the cleaner sparingly holding the cluster with the connector facing down to avoid excessive amount of cleaner from entering the cluster.
Remove the green cluster connector from the bracket.
Using wire cutters, remove the instrument cluster harness connector from the harness. Remove only the connector containing the BUS circuit (See Figure 1). This connector is labeled CBA on the cluster. Cut the wires as close to the insulator as possible.
The new connector must be soldered onto the harness. This operation requires a technician who is skilled at soldering to avoid a cold solder joint. Position the harness and align the wires with the patch harness, matching the color codes match the main wire colors.
NOTE: THE XJ INSTRUMENT PANEL CONTAINS ONE MORE CIRCUIT IN THIS CONNECTOR THAN THE TJ. CUT THE UNUSED WIRE CLOSE TO THE CONNECTOR ON TJ MODELS.

Stagger cut the main harness and patch harness wires so that the solder joints will be 1/2 inch apart. Remove 1/2 inch of insulation from the wires. The new harness will have a dark blue with no tracer. This will mate with a dark blue wire with a green tracer on TJ and with a dark blue wire with a white tracer on XJ.
Slide a piece of heat shrink tubing over the wires and twist the wires together for each respective circuit.
Solder each circuit using rosin core solder. Be sure to heat the wire enough to allow the solder to melt when it comes in contact with wire. Do not use acid core solder.
Position the heat shrink tubing over the solder joints and shrink the tubing using a heat gun.
Install the connector to the bracket.
Install the instrument cluster.
Connect the battery cable.
Verify correct operation of the cluster.
POLICY:
Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.

scoobytuff
01-26-2007, 10:00 AM
I read that same bulletin, but before I did that I tried giving the wires a better connection by twisting them a little bit like mentioned before. My brother in law told me to try this and it worked. That was over a year ago and this Jeep sees a lot of rough roads and daily use. I opted to try it before I spent any money. Its worked for me several times since.

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