Kill storie...Supra

This is my first non-honda race. I just meet this kid at Erie Blvd.(our racing spot) He owns a 3.0 Supra N/A older with 43,000miles...We are on our way home and we finnaly get a light next to eachother. He points at the light, I point, and wait for the other side to turn yellow. Green, yellow, Red...Our light turns green I launch @ 5000RPM(no wheel spin), my best launch ever. I have him by half a car from go - 60mph.

his mods

-apex'I N1
- air intake

my mods

-eibach Spring & tokico shocks

Wow I am so proud of myself.:frog:

5000 wow thats kinda high man. the most i think the launch rpm should be should be 3500rpm. if you launch at 5000. your goin to peel all through first gear cause there would be no first gear left by the time you finally got traction.

Yeah 5k w/no power mods is still high for RWD car w/torque...but I guess it's possible...but highly improbable.

well you can ask my brother AIM = F1L1P1n0 fr3sh72...If you feather off the clutch you will get no wheel spin. You cant even beat hondas tat so stfu you know nothing!!! anyway I did it!!! and like i said I am damn proud of my car...the supra wanted revenge sooooooo bad. Tat learn to launch feather off the clutch to the point you are breaking your car, you will understand!

if you dont bealive me fine:flipa:

I was in his passenger seat when he raced. Dude he had him by almost a car length. Your just jealous because you can't even beat hondas. So don't hate, congratulate.:D

alright if thats how your suppose to launch 240's i guess i'll give it a shot. but no need for the cursing. its just that 5000rpm launch sounds like it kills alot of clutch esp when feathering it. but i'll give it a shot if it gives me even more of a gain. but trust me. my friends in honda's can drive. if my friends drag you they can probrably beat you too (just assumption here) cause i can beat other cars. even faster ones. its just that they're just that much of a better driver then me. and you say supra 3.0 older model? sooo i'm assuming that was a mark III. those aren't that fast witht hose kinds of mods. and since its n/a it should be around the speed of our cars. i dunno. maybe i'm the one who don't know what i'm talkin about. :confused:

and another thing. the S14's are maad slow stock. according the magazines they do 0-60 anywhere from 8.2 to 7.7 seconds. and the quarter mile in the low 16's. those honda's that i race with good drivers can get better times. but only marginally. i raced them then i was stock and when they had some power mods. now i race them with my mods. they still got more mods then me cusae htey progress as i progress. its just that i'm alittle behind. if you look at the streetracing forums. i have beaten another LS that weights around 100lbs less csaue its only a 2 door and dont' have a sound system. and he has better mods then myf riend. how did come i beat him by atleast a car? when my other friends can beat me by 1 and a half in a slower car? its all a drivers race man. oooo shit i just realized. thats exactly what you were referring to me in the begining. that i'm not that good. lolz well i guess what/ the honda drivers in your area probrably can't drive either. cuase my 2 friends that constantly makes fools out of me takes maxima's even the 02 ones in a drag. but theyr'e auto though. and they rap v6 stangs. and accord v6's. sooo does that make my car slow? becasue of those to them?

well i been readin the post in here and i'm a real friend of Tatii. What Tat has been saying about the hondas are true. i have a friend that drives an integ LS and he beats tat in a drag. if u dont believe me, and u live in the new york area.. we can always set up a drag. So if u wanna drag just talk to tat and he'll probably set something up.

i have went out and tried your methond jdmeddie. your method does work. it has only a small hint of chirp and it just takes off. the thing is. like i suspected from before. okay i didn't peel but now i'm near red line and i ahve to shift almost immediately after launch. now the method that i normally us. it allows me to use most of first gear. i don't see the point of not being able to use first gear. but i do admit. its not as bad as i thought it would be. but i don't think its any faster.

i was askin my classmates about your method. and he use to drive a turbo mark III supra. and he said that he use to do the same thing. he would launch it at 4K but ride the clutch until it gets full bit then he floors it. but another note he said is that it kills sooo much clutch that its not really worth it. hmmmmmmmm well i guess i'll keep on experimenting.

Originally posted by TatII
but another note he said is that it kills sooo much clutch that its not really worth it.

That's so true. I guess the clutch was already worn out a bit when I bought my car. About a week ago I tried slipping the clutch (just another name for what you guys are doing) and it took off pretty good but it seems about the same as when I just launch normally. Anyways when I was slipping the clutch to launch, I started smelling this awful smell and was wondering what it was. I was sitting behind a chrysler minivan at a stoplight and that's when I began to smell it so I just assumed it was the POS chrysler ;) but only to find that smell was the smell of burning clutch. :bloated:

hahah jspecsil80 you should put a pic of your S14 in your sig too. it would be cool. lolz we'll be like the only two white S14 people in here.

MAN I AM SICK OF HEARING PEOPLE SAY YOU CANNOT LAUNCH OR IT IS NOT EFFICIANT TO LAUNCH A 240 AT 5000. SUCH BULLSHIT, THE HELL IF YOU CAN'T. THAT IS HOW I RACE. THIS MUST BE COMMING FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RACING OR LAUNCHING, THEY PROBABLY SHIFT AT 6300 RPM'S CUZ ANYTHING OVER REDLINE IS BAD FOR YOUR MOTOR. MAN IF YOU DON'T KNOW NISSANS ARE BUILT FOR IT. DID YOU KNOW THAT JUST ABOUT EVERY 240, SILVIA, 300ZX, FAIRLADY, AND SKYLINE TRANNY'S ARE THE SAME. BUILT TO LAST AND CAN HOLD A LITTLE MORE THAN 400HP.

Originally posted by Karezza666
MAN I AM SICK OF HEARING PEOPLE SAY YOU CANNOT LAUNCH OR IT IS NOT EFFICIANT TO LAUNCH A 240 AT 5000. SUCH BULLSHIT, THE HELL IF YOU CAN'T. THAT IS HOW I RACE. THIS MUST BE COMMING FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT RACING OR LAUNCHING, THEY PROBABLY SHIFT AT 6300 RPM'S CUZ ANYTHING OVER REDLINE IS BAD FOR YOUR MOTOR. MAN IF YOU DON'T KNOW NISSANS ARE BUILT FOR IT. DID YOU KNOW THAT JUST ABOUT EVERY 240, SILVIA, 300ZX, FAIRLADY, AND SKYLINE TRANNY'S ARE THE SAME. BUILT TO LAST AND CAN HOLD A LITTLE MORE THAN 400HP. SO JUST SHUT THE F**K UP ABOUT LAUNCHING AT 5000, CUZ YOUR PUSSY ASS DOESN'T HAVE THE BALLS!

chill out dude. while were on the subject about people not knowing things, anybody that says "RPM's" must not know anything about cars in general. If you have ever bothered to check out the dyno chart for the KA24DE then you will see that the torque starts dropping off around 4.5K RPM and at about 5k RPM the torque is as low as it is back at 2k RPM so it is pretty much usless to take it past 5.5k RPM or so and you definatley don't need to take it up past 6.3k RPM at all. It doesn't matter if the tranny can handle 400hp or not because the KA24DE isn't made for high revving such as above 6300 like your saying. So while your out shifting your car at 7k RPM or so, us experienced and knowledgeable drivers will shift at the optimum point and get better acceleration and better times than you. Ok?

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/487653chart.jpg

heres something simple

nissan KA24DE. long stroke motor. equals torque and mid end. equals to major power cut off after 5.5K well when i use to experiment shifting. after 5.5 it just dont' want to rev. our motor was designed for torque. thats why we got that long ass stroke and almost no bore.

however if you compare it to a honda motor. all bore and no stroke. you can rev the shit out of those engine cause the piston has less distance to travel. sooo they can have like 8000 redline. but it sacrifices low end torque. thats why we called them torqueless wonders. if you drive two cars. the honda gets faster times by shifting at redline. when the KA24DE you shift at 5.5 cause you start to lose major power and torque. soo you gotta shift it to get back into the mid range and let the torque to most of the work.

now if you ever looked at the SR20DET block (in person) that thing has allll stroke!!! that thing is as wide as 2 of my KA24DE's!! thats why that shit can rev up to a nice 8000rpm red line.

Dude...Launch at 5000RPM and switch gears @ redline....Trust me:D

Tell'em how to do it Karezza666

Originally posted by JDMEddie
Dude...Launch at 5000RPM and switch gears @ redline....Trust me:D

Tell'em how to do it Karezza666

If you launch at 5000 RPM then your already past the 240's peak torque and it's just losing torque after that. If you launched at something like 3200 RPM then you would have all that high torque to pull you along quicker. If you launch at 5000 RPM then your almost at redline and will have to shift right away like tatII said and it will just take away time from your 0-60 or 1/4.

ok you've had your car a month now??? Have you raced it yet??? It doesn't stay at 5000rpm when you slip the clutch; RPM drops to about 3500 when the clutch gets engaged...duhhh...before you say its a bad idea, try it.

Racing is about taking it to the red-line, so you run out of torque, if you push it higher then shift your rev is higher in the next gear...understand yet??? Still don't, pull up to a B18 non-Vtec both going 40MPH...get ready...try and keep up when you shift at 5500rpm, wont happen. But when you shift at 7000 like my S13 its bye bye teg.

Racing is beating your car down(or did you think parts last forever). If you want to drive normal everyday I'm sure your car will last for a long long time; till then PARTS WILL BREAK!

you do too much reading...get out there and kick your cars ass!

You will never get better times than me...You prolly never seen a track. I'm going to ESTA DRAG STRIP! (http://www.estadrags.com/) its about 10 minutes from my house. Post your times...we will see what happends. I forgot to mention I think our boy Karezza666 is rocking a turbo in his ka24e. I think he also is buying a skyline motor...you will never catch him. Happy chasing=)

Originally posted by JDMEddie
You will never get better times than me...You prolly never seen a track. I'm going to ESTA DRAG STRIP! (http://www.estadrags.com/) its about 10 minutes from my house. Post your times...we will see what happends. I forgot to mention I think our boy Karezza666 is rocking a turbo in his ka24e. I think he also is buying a skyline motor...you will never catch him. Happy chasing=)

Buying a skyline motor huh? Just like the other guys here in the 240 forum that have a skyline motor in their cars but no pics to prove it? I'll believe it when I see it. That's just how I am, I've got to see it to believe it.

I've never seen a track? In my 240, no. In my GSR I had before my 240, yes. I went up to Virginia Motorsports Park almost every weekend and ran just for fun. So don't say I've never seen a track when I'm there all the time.

And yes, slipping your clutch will give you better launches but you better have the cash ready to fork out because that shit wears down your clutch fast as a bitch and if you're doing that at every light when you want to race some riced out civic that it's not even worth racing, then your going to be replacing your clutch quite a bit.

I sold my Integra about a week before I got my 240SX. The last time I ran the Integra I got the following:

15.845 @ 90.16mph
2.305 60ft
.949 R.T. (Yeah I know it's a bad RT)
ZERO mods done to my car with full interior plus spare tire. probably would have done a little better with a few more runs.


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Originally posted by JDMEddie
Racing is about taking it to the red-line, so you run out of torque, if you push it higher then shift your rev is higher in the next gear...understand yet???

I don't feel like doing all the math that's involved right now but I may do it tomorrow or something if I have time. Here's a little piece taken out of a horsepower definition on finding the optimum shift point.

"So, how do you work out the shift points in order to achieve maximum acceleration? Well, to do this, you need a performance graph for the engine (showing torque against rpm, which you get from a rolling road session) and you need to know the gear ratios of the car.

At this point it's important to note that the table below does not take into account the final drive reduction, nor the transmission losses that would be experienced. This is because the table is purely showing the performance difference between gears, and the above factors would apply similarly to each gear.

This is based upon a standard Mk2 Vauxhall Astra GTE 16V, and the data is from the official brochure. I'd like to point out that due to the quality of the graph, these values are approximate, and may differ slightly from actual figures.

Torque 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th

RPM (ft-lb) 3.55 2.16 1.48 1.13 .89

1000 97...... 345 210 144 110 87
1400 108..... 382 233 159 122 96
1800 115..... 408 248 170 130 102
2200 120..... 427 260 178 136 107
2600 125..... 442 269 184 141 111
3000 130..... 461 280 192 147 116
3400 134..... 476 290 199 152 119
3800 141..... 500 304 209 159 125
4200 147..... 521 317 217 166 131
4600 148..... 526 320 219 167 132
5000 149..... 529 322 221 169 132
5400 148..... 524 319 218 167 131
5800 141..... 500 304 209 159 125
6200 131..... 463 282 193 148 116
6600 117..... 416 253 174 133 104

The first column in the table is the engine speed in rpm, followed by the torque output at the respective engine speed. The following columns have been calculated by multiplying the given gear ratio by the torque output. This calculates the actual amount of torque that is being sent to the final drive.

So, what does this table tell us? To make any use of it, you need to know the formula for calculating the change in engine speed going from one gear to another.

The formula is;


NEW RPM = CURRENT RPM X (NEW RATIO / CURRENT RATIO)


So, for the above car, if you were doing 3000rpm in first and you changed up to second, your new engine speed should be 1825rpm.

This formula is very important as it allows us to see the difference in torque based on gear changes. Now, lets say we were to take the advice that you should change at the torque peak. For this car it's at 4800rpm. So, we're in first gear at the torque peak, and the gearbox is sending 530Lbs-ft of torque to the final drive. We change into second, we're now at 2920rpm, and it's sending 279Lbs-ft to the final drive. Immediately we can see this was bad advice. If you look at the table, even if we left it in first for an extra 1000rpm, at 5800rpm 500Lbs-ft would be sent to the final drive. Yes we are past the torque peak, and yes the torque is dropping, but it's still sending more torque to the final drive than at any point in second gear.

This car happens to have good torque throughout the rev range, and it is apparent from the table that, with this car, in order to get the greatest acceleration you need to change as late as possible, about 6600rpm being the optimum.

Not all cars have such a good torque spread, and shifting may take place before the redline. However, the rule is that if you could be sending more torque to the final drive in a higher gear than the one you're currently in (by using the rpm formula), you've missed your shift point. As long as you shift at the optimum rpm, then your car will be accelerating at its maximum rate.

the water is now clear"

Originally posted by J SPEC SilEighty


If you have ever bothered to check out the dyno chart for the KA24DE then you will see that the torque starts dropping off around 4.5K RPM and at about 5k RPM the torque is as low as it is back at 2k RPM so it is pretty much usless to take it past 5.5k RPM or so and you definatley don't need to take it up past 6.3k RPM at all. So while your out shifting your car at 7k RPM or so, us experienced and knowledgeable drivers will shift at the optimum point and get better acceleration and better times than you. Ok?

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/487653chart.jpg

Originally posted by J SPEC SilEighty


I've never seen a track? In my 240, no.

And yes, slipping your clutch will give you better launches


.949 R.T. (Yeah I know it's a bad RT)



I think you should take your S14 to the track...what does it cost to run in PA? It cost $37 @ ESTA---

Its getting colder and you should be able to run pretty well. Try shifting @ 5500-6300 & @ red-line...I'm going to do the same thing...just to be more educated about how to drive. That reaction does suck...you could of gotten a killer time...watch your tree=)

I really know nothing about you, but you seem like you know what you are talkin about, you read alot into things...like that guy who drives the FC RX-7 in initail D. I think you should go run your 240...I'd like to see the results. I will post my slip

Originally posted by J SPEC SilEighty




http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/487653chart.jpg

WOW this is for your car I couldn't find mine to fast:

http://plaza.ufl.edu/briand/240sx%20info.htm

Transmission Gear Ratios(1995 - 1998):

Manual Transmission -FS5W71C:

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
Gear Gear Gear Gear Gear

3.321 1.902 1.308 1.000 0.759


NEW RPM = CURRENT RPM X (NEW RATIO / CURRENT RATIO)

1st to 2nd:

3152 = 5500(1.902/3.321)
3608 = 6300(1.902/3.321)
4009 = 7000(1.902/3.321)

2nd to 3rd:

3782 = 5500(1.308/1.902)
4332 = 6300(1.308/1.902)
4814 = 7000(1.308/1.902)

http://plaza.ufl.edu/briand/240sx%20info.htm

I did the math I am enlightened...can you find a link for a 91-94 gear ratio...i'm soo tired from 3 gears of math.

Hey, I did the math as well and from what this says you are pretty much right about shifting at redline. Here are the optimum shift points
1st to 2nd - 6500 RPM
2nd to 3rd - 6000 RPM
3rd to 4th - 5600 RPM
4th to 5th - 5400 RPM
Here's the math that I did, sorry it's so sloppy.

For anybody else reading this, here is how to read my work and know when the best point to shift is. When you put in the new gear ratio divided by the current gear ratio and then multiply is by the current RPM, it will give you the new RPM in the gear you are shifting to and it will give you the Lb-Ft that is going through the transmission. When you are shifting to a higher gear, you want the lb-ft in that gear to be as high as possible. You can look at my first pic that I have and you can see what the highest amount of torque will be and what RPM it will be at. So you want to shift at the RPM that will put you at the highest torque for the next gear. I can't really explain it very good so just take a look at the work.

JDMEddie, it costs $40 to run all day here. There is a show at the track this weekend called Battle of the Imports and I think I'll take my 240 to the track for that just to see what it will run. If I do go up there then I'll post the results when I get back. Also, sorry if I sounded like a dick before.


http://members.cox.net/jspecsileighty/chart1.jpg

http://members.cox.net/jspecsileighty/chart2.jpg

j spec holy shit!!! i go to an engineering school myself and i remembered learning this last year. but when i look at your formula i cn'at remember any of it. damn~ how did you remmeber all this stuff? but thanks the info. now i know the optimum shift point for my car. now i'm gonna go give it a shot. but about the launching thing. i'm too broke now to keep on changing clutchs. sooo i'll to launching.

and also jdmeddie. what do you run in the 1/4? i want to know what a S13 runs. i know that its definitly faster then the S14 though.

I am kinda getting a little edgy now. I do know what I am talking about JSPEC...........I HAVE BEEN RACING MY CAR FOR MORE THAN 5 YEARS ........and that is the best way you can launch. I have tried many different launches. I have raced over 150 races at the track. I will post my time slips when I get done with work. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF FEATHERING YOUR CLUTCH, CUZ IF YOU HAVE THEN THAT IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU LAUNCH. My best possible reaction time was .505 and that was reving it up to 5000 and feathering it. Damn dude I thought you knew. And if you have any questions about the 240SX, Silvia ask me, and see if I am F**king stupid. And I rarely ever get a rt over .800. I am going to try and plan a trip next summer (cuz I broke my tranny) to Virginia Beach and give you a ride and show you was up! I really do know how to drive, man so don't be talkin smak! I was hitting 15.7 with intake and Exhaust, that is it, the only mods that I had for a couple of summers.

OK HERE IS A PICTURE OF MY CAR............................................... .................................................. . by the way I don't have a turbo yet or a skyline motor yet, but this winter a RB25DET is goin in. I already ordered the engin, tranny, ecu, harnesses, mounts, drive shaft, and axles. I am starting to rip out my engin, tranny, drive shaft, axles, ect. But I do have a Zex Nitrous Kit in there though.
P.S. I have had the Minneapolis fire department show up a little after a brakestad I had done for about 3 min. straight, at a huge car cruise we where at there

My race track is called Rock Falls Raceway. We also have an import day too. You guys also have to remember a couple of huge key things that help and hurt your times. Like we all know Weather, Temp, and Altitude, just to remind you. AND ALSO I DIDN'T HAVE A PIC CUZ, I DON'T HAVE ONE THAT IS SAVED UNDER JPG FILE.

Hey Karezza666,

http://www.ianai.net/jokes/forumpix/GlassOfSTFU.jpg

Ok, first off, where was I talking smack to you? Are you talking about where I was talking about when to shift? Personally I think your some 10 year old kid who just learned all of the cuss words. Nobody here is yelling or anything and then you start calling me names like a "FAG" and a "BITCH"?

Anybody can be whoever the hell they want to on the internet because rarely is anybody ever going to find out the truth. And that's what I think we have a case of here. First off you say that you have raced over 150 times and you have the timeslips to prove it and that you will post them when you get home from work. Then later you say that you can't post them because they aren't saved as a JPG file. So haven't you ever heard of changing the file type?

Right now, I don't believe 1 thing that you have said. Put up some more pictures of your car (ones that don't look like you took them off somebody's website and claimed them as your own :rolleyes: ) and then change those timeslips to jpg files, then I'll believe you.

Go ahead and drive on down here to Virginia Beach, because I would LOVE to see "your" car and for you to show me up. So go ahead and come on down.

How do ya like 'dem apples? :finger4:

Ok you say you don't believe me, but you really don't know what your talking about. And for your info that is my car. I know everything about it, like the silver to green harlaquin flames that I had painted on which I helped Terry Krawl paint stupid fuck, and I did get these pics of an internet site..
Click here to see my car (http://www.revolutionsmotorsports.com)
Go to Customer Cars: Scroll down to Jeremy's Nissan 240SX

Yeah that's right..............Wait oh my best friend made that web site for Jay Olson the owner of Revolutions Motorsports (715)834-5758, yeah go ahead and call them they close at 5:30 so hurry up. and that supra is Henry Chan's the person who used to own Revolutions before Jay, who is one of my very good friends. And i can tell you every one of those pep's cars last names too exept Karl, cuz he is from Green Bay.

Go ahead and ask me anything about the car. I can tell you anything cuz I pretty much did everything myself, all install and everything. Just like I have 2 gen supra front blinkers which cost $80 a piece. bet you didn't realize that huh.............

Tecnik R......well that was my old car club which I was president of.......You know what tecnik means.....It means eating pussy..... go ahead and look it up in Karma Sutra.....Those are 17" Konig Toxxins...... what else man..... What do I have to do to prove to you that, that is my car...........I'll bet your mommy and daddy bought your car for you so. Damn dude I'm not out here to make enemies, in fact to meet new pep's with some sweet ass rides, but you have really pissed me off.......And Damn I am not a fucking computer expert, I don't know how to change shit to JPG, damn

kama sutra

Sorry I spelt Kama wrong man..... didn't mean no harm


Or are you a little nark, cuz we all hate pep's who rat people out. Jesus man. Sorry if I didn't get the correct 1/4 mile times for a silvia, the point is that they would beet a mustang GT

damn guys. this is becoming a war zone over here. what turns out to a little questioning. and now i believe you guys. and now everyone is tryin to wrip each others heads off. hmmmmmmmmmm

Originally posted by Karezza666
Damn dude I'm not out here to make enemies, in fact to meet new pep's with some sweet ass rides, but you have really pissed me off.......And Damn I am not a fucking computer expert, I don't know how to change shit to JPG, damn

Ok, that's fine. So if your not here to make enemies then why did your first post in this thread contain "CUZ YOUR PUSSY ASS DOESN'T HAVE THE BALLS!" What was te point of that and why do you see the need to call somebody a name anytime you can? such as the following....

Originally posted by Karezza666
CUZ YOUR PUSSY ASS DOESN'T HAVE THE BALLS!
Originally posted by Karezza666
FAG
Originally posted by Karezza666
BITCH
Originally posted by Karezza666
silly ass bitch
Originally posted by Karezza666
your nothing but a BITCH
Originally posted by Karezza666
stupid fuck
Originally posted by Karezza666
Click here stupid fuck
Originally posted by Karezza666
you piece of shit
Originally posted by Karezza666
so suck deez nuts
Originally posted by Karezza666
your an idiot

That right there just shows your level of intelligence :rolleyes:

And oh yeah, mommy and daddy sure bought my car. That's why I'm working all the time and I had to pay every penny of my car, including insurance. So mommy and daddy didn't help me with my car at all.

Your new here, so don't make yourself look like an asshole.

Ok...........I am I am sorry J Spec.......I will call a truce..........I just don't like being called a 10 year old that doesn't know anything, and that, that isn't my car, because it is.....

J Spec, it does look to me that you are the youngin here so don't call me a 10 year old again or I will be pissed......how old are you anyway 16?

Originally posted by Karezza666
Ok...........I am I am sorry J Spec.......I will call a truce..........I just don't like being called a 10 year old that doesn't know anything, and that, that isn't my car, because it is.....

J Spec, it does look to me that you are the youngin here so don't call me a 10 year old again or I will be pissed......how old are you anyway 16?

I'm 17.

The only reason I said you were 10 was because of how you were responding to everything with a cuss word.

Let's just drop it here and move on.
k?

so a J Spec how did you get so knowledgeable anyway?

oh yeah and I will take a trip down there next summer anyway. I will have my new motor in and I will want to drive it a lot..... I like to take road trips anyway... Besides I have never been to Virginia Beach would it be worth it?

I will put more pics of my car on.........It will be tomarrow night, when I am back at my friends dorm, the kid who made the web site my car is on

Yeah man how come there is no pic of your car, I'd like to see it

Originally posted by Karezza666
so a J Spec how did you get so knowledgeable anyway?

Most of the stuff that I know I have found online. I have 2 friends that have SR's. One is in a 240 and the other is in a Nissan Hardbody pickup. So I have learned stuff about the SR from working on the engine with them.

Originally posted by Karezza666 oh yeah and I will take a trip down there next summer anyway. I will have my new motor in and I will want to drive it a lot..... I like to take road trips anyway... Besides I have never been to Virginia Beach would it be worth it

Virginia Beach is a pretty cool place. Friday and Saturday night, most people will go down to the beach and cruise the strip for awhile. Oh, and get this, cops have actually started handing out tickets at the beach if they see you pass them more than 5 times in 2 hours. They say it's "unlawful and unneccesary cruising." How stupid is that?

Originally posted by Karezza666
Yeah man how come there is no pic of your car, I'd like to see it

I've had my 240 for about a month now and here are some pics that I took 2 weeks ago. It's stock for now, but hopefully it won't be that way for long.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/5615211.jpg http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/2710973.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/6948764.jpg http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/5632785.jpg http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/1422606.jpg http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/4231228.jpg http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/4699939.jpg http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/97780810.jpg http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/80753213.jpg

Oh, and what about you? Where did you get your knowledge from?

J SPEC SilEighty Oh, and what about you? Where did you get your knowledge from?

Mostly experience, and a lot from the very knowledgeable guy named Chris Anderson (Anderson High-Performance Racing), his buisness, he mostly makes exhaust, upper ic piping, lower ic piping, does front mount intercoolers, rebuilds enjins, does a lot of turbo work, ect for eclipse's and talon's. Then Revolutions helped me pick up a bit, but mostly i am still learning a lot every single day. But Chris also has an 87 mustang 5.0 and he took a turbo from an eclipse and one from a talon and put them on his stang. Now he just put 2 grand national turbo's on there. his car is insanely fast he runs low 10's at this high of altitude too. He is going to be tuning my new motor and upgrading my turbo and putting in my intercooler and everything, the guy is quit frankly a genious when it comes to cars. Whenever I go and talk to him with my car he teach's me something new, and he blows my mind, half the time I don't know what he is talking about.

j spec your only 17? i always htough that you would be older then me. hmmmmmmmmmm

Originally posted by TatII
j spec your only 17? i always htough that you would be older then me. hmmmmmmmmmm

Yep, I'm 17. I'll be 18 next January

this thread is a hoot LMAO Kazarea or whatever, learn some manners and respect. Doesn't matter what you have you still don't own this place! If I was a moderator you would have been history while ago. We don't need constant battling and arguing on the forum, this is a place for enthusiasts to help each other out. not the opposite as is the case here.

MKIII Supra N/As are slow... they do 0-60 in the 8s
The Turbos are competetive :)

keep thugin'...:hehehe:

Originally posted by JDMEddie
keep thugin'...:hehehe:

:rolleyes: I'll get right on that :rolleyes: