ok, here is why you are gonna hate me. Im 15. and I want to get a porsche 911. not a 1998, not 1 1989. something like a 1981 or earlier.

now, Ill explain myself.

I have been into cars for a long time. yes, pre TFATF. I STARTED with corvettes. then I started liking european cars, then imports, then I got real specific with imports. started with hondas, then nissans, then TFATF came out, and then I was all about toyotas for a LONG TIME (6-7 months) then It was subarus, back to nissans, and then RX-7's, which have been my passion for about 6-7 months. Now, Im starting to get into "vintage" porsches. I remember seeing in european car (I think) a green 1976 911, that looked really nice, and, being a teenager, looks and respect matter to me. I know vintage porsches look DAMN nice, they can be DAMN fast, and I know all my rich spoiled friends will give me TONS of respect.

so, it comes down to this:

what are some porsche specific web forums (in the style of freshally.com or rx7club.com/forum)?

what years of 911 could I afford for under 5k? and if I did ALL of my own work (I have experience, I helped cousin build a locost).

www.pelicanparts.com <Porsche forum, and they have lots of traffic, they also sell Porsche parts.

"I know vintage porsches look DAMN nice, they can be DAMN fast"

I don't know, I own a 1969 911T and that's supose to do 0-60 in 9 seconds. The "E" and "S" are different, but cost more. I'm thinking of selling my Porsche, and getting a 1995 BMW M3.

911 under 5k? That will be very hard to find. I bought mine for 4700, but it didnt run, has some rust which will cost 1000 dollars to repair,(just for damn labor, I can get the part for $300) needs body work, and a paint job. Carpet, weather stripping, targa top all could use a replacing. To get it in good condition would be probably 12000 including what I bought the car for. (that doesnt include mechanically, the car runs and drives now, who knows about the brakes, suspension, etc..) Your going to throw lots of money into the car, that's for sure, and one reason I'm selling it. The car is light and can be made to go fast with an engine upgrade, but that costs a couple thousand dollars. (6000 maybe?) I was going to insure the car under classic car insurance, but to me spending 12k on a Porsche I will not drive everyday isn't worth it. You may want to look into the 914 which I'm sure you'll find at that price (5000), or a 944. These cars will not tear up the drag strip, but they are probably the most affordable of all Porsches. Finding a 1981 Porsche for 5k.. two words.. good luck. I think it will be impossible, and have seen them go for atleast 15k. Look at the 911sc, maybe you'll find one for 10k. If you buy a Porsche cheap, chances are you'll spend more money repairing it then if you bought one that costed more, with all maintnance documents. Have you cosidered the BMW 325, or 328? It's around the same price for a 92-95, they are perfectly balanced, RWD, 190hp, inline 6 = smooth power, reliable, and dirt cheap to maintane compared to Porsches.

I just picked up a 70' 911T from my father. I have seen them go for $6500 etc, but are in some serious need of TLC.

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They are awsome cars to own, and drive. Good luck on finding one.

were i live they are selling a 1972 porsche carrera with a 3.8 supercharged engine in $8000!

That's a real perdy 911 kris!

I'm 18 and i just purchased a 944 turbo in perfect condition with 85000 mi on it for only $7500! I am slowly turning it into a racecar and this car hauls. It's chipped, shimmed, has an MAF kit, and a bigger turbo! For a couple grand you can make it as fast as a 911 TT. More importantly these cars handle extremely well with their 50/50 weight ratio (11 pounds lighter in the rear).

I recommend you get a 951 it's way cheaper and a lot newer

But i am bias :devil:

You'll have to decide what you want to use the car for. The earlier pre '74 cars are lighter, more simple mechanically, sound better (less restrictive exhausts), and also have more nervous handling. It helps to have some experience behind the wheel with the older 911's because of snap oversteer, which isn't really as bad as people may think, but is a concern if you are being wreckless. The '74 and newer cars are heavier and feature more creature comforts. The 911S available from '74-'77 had some serious problems with pulling head studs. Thats the reason why these vintage of 911 tend to have really low resales. The good thing about them is though, if they are still on the road, they've likely had the upgraded head studs installed and problem solved while also having a low purchase price. One of the best 911's in my eyes was the 911SC that came out in '78. Commonly considered one of the more reliable 911 engines, it is a good combination of performance, price, style, and reliability. $5,000 isn't going to get you anything but a 911 that needs work. It is always better to spend a little more and get one in good shape, with a service history, and a owner who is up to date on maintence requirements.

Here are some shots of my '69 911E

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nice porsche ksaile . Im in the same boat as sinfestboy 15 years and wanting a porsche. i like the 914 and 924. my olny problem is ive got good taste and no money my dream cars would have to be a 65-67 911,917,959,911 gt3, and the carrera gt, all exelent cars. so does anyone know where any of those cars are?

in fact, the american porsche were different to the european. the american had less hp and were more comfortable, like you like it, the european are more harder to drive but make much more fun:finger:

i love stangs, and i have one, but when i had the money, i went out and bought the car that i wanted (either the a yellow 97 rx-7 or a red porshe 911 turbo slant nose edition, i ended up with the porshe). hey, you're a car fanantic, not like these too fast too furious creeps. * my 4banger with a coffee can exhaust and 5 feet spoiler can beat yours. * see ya on the road and yes, when you hop in a porshe, chicks seem to draw towards you.

DUDE HELL YA SinFest, Im 16 and rebuilt a '74 911, Way to go dawg! Mine was alot cheaper to rebuild, than most ppl pay on a brand new honda :loser:

ok, i think its 1975 and later because my 1974 911 is as light as a '73, I found out about the head stud and mag case probs before i got the car. When i rebuilt it, We put in a aluminum case and upgraded the chain tensioners, once we did that there were no problems with the car. IF u get a 77-81 (not tooo sure about the years but thats pretty close) DO NOT GET A THERMAL REACTOR CAR!!!! its going to make you hate life. those cars were heavier, slower, and more restrictive exhausts. In Europe they're great. In america and especially california, they sucked asss. Anway, my car didnt come with an oil cooler. it was one of the few '74's that didnt, GRR, if u look at any old porsches MAKE SURE IT HAS AN OIL COOLER! my car gets ridiculously hot at low rpms. im gona need to get one soon or my car is gonna melt one of these days:eek7:

i suggest you learn to drive before you wreak a porsche

Why do you assume that he will wreck the Porsche?

If your main objective is to be seen in a Porsche, why don't you consider a 912. Most people have no idea what they are...to save you some time, it is a 911 with a 356SC flat-four engine producing an astounding 86 net hp (102 gross hp):smile: It only weighs 2200lbs, so its not so bad, actually. They have the exact same body, except for the badge on the rear that says 912. A plus to getting the 912 is the fact that they handle better than the comparable year 911, due to the fact that the 4cyl weighs less than the 6, so a lot of weight is taken out from behind the rear axle. You can get a 912 in nice shape for around $5,000, or even less if it has some flaws. It is also a little bit cheaper to maintain. You are going to have a really hard time finding any 911 for $5K or under. You are probably looking at around $8,000 for anything in reasonable shape.

did you guys ever see that movie "Gone in Sixty Seconds" I love that silver one he drives at the end of the movie, You know the one that he ramped.

Very looky kid.

Me myself has just bought a 911sc targa 1978. The car drives like a dream and si completely mint, and yes everyone does give you top respect. I bought the in the UK for £8750 pounds sterling. In my eyes that is a bargin, but is a bit out of price range. You will be able to pick one up for less but be prepared to work on it, and also think about the prices for the parts. I knoe they are expensive in the UK so I dare say they will be in the US.:dogpile:

Originally posted by Peterbeeter
did you guys ever see that movie "Gone in Sixty Seconds" I love that silver one he drives at the end of the movie, You know the one that he ramped.


I believe most people have seen that movie. And I'm pretty sure youre referring to the 67 Ford Shelby Mustang, right?? :confused:

Well, not to be redundent here, but what do you guys think of the 1974 911s' reliability alround?? How much is it to maintain one? What are the common problems? Pros? Cons? Im asking becuase I recently found a deal, $4000 for a 1974 911s with a 1980 911SC motor. All he said is that the interior needed some work, but I havent even talked to the guy selling it yet...Anyway, Im just starting to get into these cars, maybe you guys could lead me in the right direction, thank you very much!
-Dan

The biggest problem witht he '74s was the magnesium engine case. It leaked oil and could not handle a large power gain without some serious work. Also the CIS injection required very mild cams. The 1980 engine should take care of the problems. It will however weigh more and may compromise the handling if the suspension is left stock. Suspension upgrades are very easy.

Any 911 Porsche requires maintenance. Learn to set the valves. There are a couple of special tools available to make the job easier. You can get them from any Porsche supply house (Pelican, Stoddard, Performance, Tweks, etc.).

Look for rust. There is no frame in the car, the sheetmetal is the strength. If it is rusted, the car may flex in corners.

Run your fingers under the fender lips. Porsche used an underbody treatment that feels "wavy". If the fenders do not have this treatment, they have probably been replaced. Find out why.

Go to: http://www.middleyear911.com/diy.html for more info.

$4000 seems a little low for a car in great shape.

Hope this answers some of your questions.

ok, here is why you are gonna hate me. Im 15.
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I know vintage porsches look DAMN nice, they can be DAMN fast, and I know all my rich spoiled friends will give me TONS of respect.
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Go for it. On an ultra-low budget, be that expert builder and parts shopper, otherwise it will rest in the garage, and you'll be the scrub on a bicycle. Of course, Las Vegas can use another 15 yr old on stage in black vinyl boots and fishnet, making up to $5k a night depending on talent. You're starting well, asking for advice. We'll be less informative than a search engine.

You're not going to like my response, but it's not time for you to buy a porsche yet. I made the mistake of getting one too young (not enough money) and it left a very bad taste in my mouth. I bought a 78 911 that was gorgeous inside and out for 11k (5 years ago). It was one of the worst purchases I ever made.

I'd suggest a BMW or a Corvette for you, they're more affordable to own/operate.

15 year old with a porsche? Sounds to me like a formula for disaster.

A Porsche IS an import. Any car thats not American is an import, not just Japanese cars!