4th gen targa top conversion (in progress, updated often)

666_speed · 11-10-2006, 02:31 PM

I've put t-tops in my Camaro, now it's time for a targa top

I'm going to custom make the top out of fiberglass. Every bit of this is custom, so please do not ask for tips/help, because I don't have a clue what I'm doing to be honest.

The best Idea I could come up with to make the top the perfect shape with the correct contour, bends, and size was to make an exact copy of my t-tops. I laid a plastic bag over the t-tops while in the car and then laid the fiberglass cloth as my first layer. I used fiberglass cloth because it is thinner than the mat and is easier to work with shaping.

Next I mixed the resin and hardener to apply the first coat. The first layer should be a thin layer of resin and hardener, but I didn't know this at the time and put it on too thick. The first layer needs to be thin and dry quickly, then put a thicker coat on top of that to reinforce it.

After that dried I put a layer of the fiberglass mat on top of the fiberglass cloth. The mat is thicker and will make the top a lot more sturdy and durable.

Then, using a lot more hardener and resin, wet that layer down and allow it to dry.

There is my car parked outside allowing the 2nd layer to dry. The warmer the weather the better it is for drying.

I'll update with more when I get more done.

1986Z28 · 11-10-2006, 03:17 PM

looks good so far

Blackcrow64 · 11-10-2006, 04:39 PM

Oooooo I can't wait to see the finished product!

I'm sure it'll turn out awesome. I like how your going about doing it so far. lol

666_speed · 11-10-2006, 06:58 PM

Thanks, I don't have a clue what I'm doing really. It's all based on a guess, I cannot find a writeup anywhere on how to do this. I don't forsee any major problems, but then again.....

Blackcrow64 · 11-10-2006, 07:13 PM

Really it won't be much harder than the t-top conversion. The only real difference is everything will be one piece and you'll have your two t-top latches still.

666_speed · 11-10-2006, 07:44 PM

It doesn't look hard. I have a good game plan, my real concern now is how I want to finish the roof piece. I cannot decide if I want it thicker or a thinner piece. I'm afraid if it's thin it will break but if it's too thick it will crack. I've decided I'm going to sand it down, bondo it a thin layer (for added support) then primer and paint. I hate bondo, but this time I think I'm going to resort to using it.

Just got to wait for it to finish drying tonight. Tomorrow I'll decide if it needs another layer of fiberglass and do this if necessary. I may just load up on 2-3 layers of fiberglass and leave out the bondo. Suggestions?

Blackcrow64 · 11-10-2006, 08:10 PM

I would skip out on the bondo and just do a few layers of fiberglass. With the curve of your roofline and a few layers it should be more than strong enough and you shouldn't have to worry about it cracking. If anything, I would think the bondo would crack or flake off first...

Trust me, I've played with fiberglass before and its some pretty durable stuff when theres a few curves in it. lol We tested a piece for durability once by jumping on it and i tell ya what it never cracked from it. Then again, maybe we had too much hardner in it. lol

666_speed · 11-10-2006, 08:18 PM

Fiberglass > Me

Thanks for your help! How many layers of the fiberglass cloth do you think would be sufficient? Sorry for all the stupid questions, but I'm learning too.

Blackcrow64 · 11-10-2006, 10:01 PM

Its all good man, I've never done anything like that either but I have a few experiences with it and many more to come. lol

Well, we made a gauge cluster with ours and I was surprised how strong it was with just one layer... But you will be having yours facing against the elements and not to mention the wonderful f-body's body flex... I would think you would be fine with about 3 layers. Sand your top layer smooth, prime, paint and clear coat.

Oh yeah, I just remembered... Have you already given it some type of underbody frame besides the typical subframe connectors? Its gonna need some type of frame rails welded to it or your cars gonna split in half as soon as you eliminate your T bar... That would kind of suck so I figured I better bring it into consideration tonight. lol

**EDIT**
Another thing I just thought of. You may want to consider putting a hoop on it while your doing all this. If I was doing all that I would feel safer with one at least.

Mr. Luos · 11-10-2006, 10:07 PM

You sir have much more balls than I.

I can't wait to see the outcome of this.

666_speed · 11-10-2006, 11:26 PM

You don't think that subframe connectors and a strut tower brace will hold it? What else do you think it would need, exactly? A hoop?

Mr. Luos · 11-10-2006, 11:33 PM

Subframes will be fine.
Strut tower brace will do nothing.

666_speed · 11-10-2006, 11:34 PM

Wouldn't it keep it from twisting upon acceleration and turns? I know it won't do much for the initial cut.

Mr. Luos · 11-10-2006, 11:40 PM

I still say the strut tower brace is a worthless mod.

Blackcrow64 · 11-10-2006, 11:46 PM

The hoop is more of a safety thing in the event of a rollover. Although I'm sure you drive safe enough that it shouldn't matter.

Do you really think the subframe connectors will be enough for him to do that? I would think it to not be enough support from axle to axle... Then again, now that I think about it. Do the convertibles run a different subframe for support?

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