10-30-2006, 08:20 PM
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block numbers
hi guys
have not been on in a while,but maybe somebody can help
i recieve this engine with a car i bought and need to know what it is?
left deck number=15k427650
check mark 0529cmj
back block number=gm 39700010
thank joe68
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10-30-2006, 08:50 PM
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block numbers
hi guys
put this post in a few other to get a quick reply,i recieve this motors with a car purchase and need to know what it is?
deck number" batteries side deck number or passenger side=15k427650
then a check mark and 0529cmj
gm block 39700010
thanks joe68
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10-30-2006, 10:04 PM
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Re: block numbers
The 010 block is an older 327/350 block. It's among the first of the large journal 4.000" bore blocks. It won't be a 327 if it's newer than 1969 or has 4-bolt main caps.
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10-30-2006, 10:45 PM
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Re: block numbers
well,not really sure,but i think it a 1975 ,but the three zero throw me off,and the more i try to find out the more i am confuze. i remove one head so far and measure bore and it look to be 4.0. will do more tommorrow.
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10-30-2006, 10:53 PM
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Re: block numbers
my mistake
too many hours working
3970010 not three zero
15k427850 not six
will remove pan tommorow
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10-31-2006, 09:35 AM
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Re: block numbers
The numbers stamped on the RF deck are as follows:
The numbers on the LR ledge (behind the distributor and oil pressure port) are as follows:
You can check the casting numbers at www.mortec.com which would reveal:
3970010....302.....69....4 Bolt...Z-28 Camaro
3970010....327.....69....2 Bolt...Trucks and industrial
3970010....350...69-80...2 or 4 Bolt
Basically, you have the generic 4" bore block used for about eleventy-jillion engines. At least it isn't a 305.
The design number will give you a little more information. You can decode some of that at:
http://www.nastyz28.com/sbchevy/sblock.html
If the engine is disassembled to any degree, you can usually find some hints in the timing chain area and at the flywheel end. If you find the numbers "010" and/or "020" cast into the block at those locations, that indicates the block is cast with an additional 1% tin and/or 2% nickel to aid durability, casting stability, and machinability. The tin also helps resolve inherent gray iron casting porosity. These blocks are generally considered better candidates for building to higher power levels, even if they are "only" two-bolt main caps. Actually, the two-bolt block are better, IMO, since they can be fit with aftermarket splayed 4-bolt caps which are stronger than factory 4-bolt (straight) caps.
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10-31-2006, 09:41 AM
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Re: block numbers
One thread per question, please. Trust me - We'll find it.
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10-31-2006, 01:10 PM
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Re: block numbers
sorry about that,so i thanks you for the information,but is their a way to ,
to detimed if it a 350 or 327? do they use the same block and crank? what make them diff? the heads? can i be safe to have this rebuild and expect a solid running motor out of it? it going in a 68 chevelle and not too concern on getting it to really really high hp.just a solid street motor.
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10-31-2006, 01:17 PM
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Re: block numbers
when and what car was the last 327 put in? and when did they start the the 305?
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10-31-2006, 06:38 PM
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Re: block numbers
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Originally Posted by joe68
when and what car was the last 327 put in? and when did they start the the 305?
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1969 = last year of 327
1976 = first year of 305
If you follow the date/time code solution that Blue Bowtie posted above, you will pretty much determine what it is.
The two engines use a different stroke. The crank you're most likely to run across for that block in a 350 is casting number 3932442. 3941174, 3911001 or 011 puts it at a 327. These numbers are for cast cranks (small parting line).
There are more casting #-s here - http://www.mortec.com/cranks.htm. You can determine what you have with these castings - the only displacements you're interested in with that block are 302, 327 and 350.
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10-31-2006, 08:14 PM
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Re: block numbers
well i gave up on trying to upload pictures, so i found the date code to be on the other side ,the crank is a two bolts, and the casting on the crank is=3932442 and date code =e285 block date code is e275
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10-31-2006, 08:40 PM
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Re: block numbers
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Originally Posted by joe68
well i gave up on trying to upload pictures, so i found the date code to be on the other side ,the crank is a two bolts, and the casting on the crank is=3932442 and date code =e285 block date code is e275
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Then you have a 350 on your hands. (silicon posted your crank number above your post.)
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11-01-2006, 08:21 PM
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Re: block numbers
ok guys lets test your expertize
block cast number 3956618
cast in front of gm is the numbers 19
right front pad v0307hu
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11-01-2006, 08:23 PM
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Re: block numbers
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Originally Posted by capriceowns
Then you have a 350 on your hands. (silicon posted your crank number above your post.)
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thanks guys for the help,talk to machine shop and we are going to build it for the chevelle.taking ideas for this project,i looking for a solid street,dependable,fast but not high hp needed,i like to drive!
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11-01-2006, 08:43 PM
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Re: block numbers
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Originally Posted by joe68
ok guys lets test your expertize
block cast number 3956618
cast in front of gm is the numbers 19
right front pad v0307hu
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302 from a 69 camaro :P
Its not hard to find out were it came from, go to google type in "chevy block casting numbers" and trhe first site is a mortec one, look for the number there. They tell you engine size, year, and number of main bolts
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