stoneage_tech

hey everyone, my 96 g had 6.5 inch clarion speakers out back and lately they had been makeing a noise similar to a blown speaker when the bass hit , so last weekend i swapped them out for a set of kenwood 6.5 inch 2 way rear deck speakers ,peak power is 160 w (unsure on what effect this has on the g's sounds) plus they have tweeders in them, anyway after putting them in i dont have near the bass i used to and i have a unbelivalbe amount of treble (adjusted out ), the rest of the system is bone stock . did i do something wrong here ? also when i pulled the stock clarions out they do not appear to be blown ,what gives here?so now im looking at getting a infinity cappa self powered 12 inch sub woofer,(275$) good idea?anyway i would appreciate any feed back anyone can give me as stereos are a tricky deal for me (blown up a few amps in my lifetime)..........:bandit:


mike and a ...
1996 G20 trapped in alaska
for 489 more days

kenchan

drivers do not need to be cosmetically ripped up along the edge to be considered 'blown' could be dat you burnt the coils inside the yok, or dropped something or got too much moisture on the cone to make the coil get out of alignment with the magnets. either way, if your cone's makeing a rough buzz noise, then it's blown. push down on the cone gently near the outer rim of the dust cap. if you hear any rubbing, then your drive is gone for sure.

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1998 Prelude SS - TEIN HA with upper pillows, SSR Integrals 17x7 with SP8000 (215/45), GReddy Evo catback, Iceman Comp Intake, DC Sports header, Apexi VAFC, ZEX 55 shot with bottle heater, NOS blanket, Factory Body Kit, Spoon F/R tower bars, JDM Foglamps, Carbon Fiber trim, Razo pedals &knobs, Fiamm Dual air horn

Future Mods: Lighten car, 2nd 10lbs nitrous bottle would be nice too.

2001 G20 P11 AT- TEIN NA, TRM Snipers 17x7 with Potenza RE910 (215/45), Arospeed Dual-outlet Muffler, K&N Drop-in Airfilter, WW Front Lip, Nakamichi MB75 1DIN 6CD Changer/Receiver, FIAMM Dual Air horns, Levoc Pedals, PIAA (H4 Superwhite H3 Ion Crystal, 168 SuperWhite)

2002 WRX MT- TEIN HA's with upper pillow mounts, 1000Miglia HT3 17x7 with sumitomo HTR+ 225/45/17, painted side skirts, Cusco front & rear strut bar, Whiteline rear swaybar, aluminum endlinks, Blitz NUR Catback, HKS seq. BOV, factory front lip, rear valance, Kartboy short shifter and bushings.

Future mods: dressup wheels with Potenza S03 225/45/17 tires, TurboXS UTec, maybe an uppipe. by then, it'll be fast enough.
fiamm dual air horns.

kenchan

bout the treble, should put in another crossover to smooth out the mid and hi's.

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1998 Prelude SS - TEIN HA with upper pillows, SSR Integrals 17x7 with SP8000 (215/45), GReddy Evo catback, Iceman Comp Intake, DC Sports header, Apexi VAFC, ZEX 55 shot with bottle heater, NOS blanket, Factory Body Kit, Spoon F/R tower bars, JDM Foglamps, Carbon Fiber trim, Razo pedals &knobs, Fiamm Dual air horn

Future Mods: Lighten car, 2nd 10lbs nitrous bottle would be nice too.

2001 G20 P11 AT- TEIN NA, TRM Snipers 17x7 with Potenza RE910 (215/45), Arospeed Dual-outlet Muffler, K&N Drop-in Airfilter, WW Front Lip, Nakamichi MB75 1DIN 6CD Changer/Receiver, FIAMM Dual Air horns, Levoc Pedals, PIAA (H4 Superwhite H3 Ion Crystal, 168 SuperWhite)

2002 WRX MT- TEIN HA's with upper pillow mounts, 1000Miglia HT3 17x7 with sumitomo HTR+ 225/45/17, painted side skirts, Cusco front & rear strut bar, Whiteline rear swaybar, aluminum endlinks, Blitz NUR Catback, HKS seq. BOV, factory front lip, rear valance, Kartboy short shifter and bushings.

Future mods: dressup wheels with Potenza S03 225/45/17 tires, TurboXS UTec, maybe an uppipe. by then, it'll be fast enough.
fiamm dual air horns.

endfro

One other thing that you need to consider is that the Kenwoods are seperates.

On your Clarions, you have one ~6" diameter woofer putting out bass, treble and mids. The woofer is trying to do so many things at one time that some sound frequencies start to drown other ones out. Bass obviously takes priority over everything because the bass makes the cone move much farther.

On your Kenwoods, theres a woofer, and a tweeter. Now, the Kenwood is a 2-way speaker. That means that the sound that enters the speaker is seperated before it comes out as sound. I'm not sure exactly how Kenwood has the crossover inside of the speaker set up, but I can tell you that there is bass going to the woofer, and highs going to the tweeter. And because of the crossover they are not conflicting with eachother like they used to.

There is still just as much treble as there was before. And just as much bass. And even just as much mids. Whats happening is that you can auctaully hear it better. Just wait till you start buying good amps and good component speakers... your ears will be hurting.

Although I myself prefer having speakers that are so loud they hurt your ears. Everyone in the car goes "GOD TURN IT DOWN IT HURTS!" I just keep it loud.

I hope that helped you, I tried to explain it as best I could.

stoneage_tech

thanks all it all makes sense now . for some reason i gained some of the bass back it sounds great now .korn sounds good on it, the symphonic music seems to have gained a few instraments . techno sounds cool but it needs more kick so now its off to get subs , i guess im getting the feaver eh ?


it hurts but chicks dig it
mike