07-25-2006, 03:23 AM
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newb question from....... well... a newb.
i do talk big i guess so forgive that but i do my best to follow up..
as some of you may know, i look forward to swapping a grand prix mclaren 3.1 turbo engine into the Lier. i hear its a helluva task.
my question is about tuning.
i've heard hp tuners this, apexi that...
what exactly is it?
i have a rough understanding of how engines work mostly from listening to others' conversations and experience when my car needs work. i pick up on things quickly and appreciate your patience trying to help me understand things.
so yea just for now, i'll ask whats tuning and what does it do?
if anybody knows their shit and has AIM and is on kinda often, leave your contact so i can ask you things (i won't bug you all the time, maybe once a week)
mine is: extrememusicmd
thankz
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07-25-2006, 11:11 AM
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Re: newb question from....... well... a newb.
What year is your J-Car? It makes a difference, since the control schemes are quite a bit different across the years.
"Tuning" is generally a reprogramming of hte ECM/PCM to enhance operation with factory parts or tailor operation to modifications. Speed/density control schemes on older TBI and some MPFI cars will almost require changes when a different cam profile, different intake, or head porting/changes are made. Different exhaust systems may benefit from reprogramming, but don't usually require it for satisfactory operation. Changes in ignition timing, volumetric efficiency, load variable, and power enrichment tables can be beneficial to even stock engines, but may be necessary for modified engines. Changing TCC lockup points, fan control temperatures, temperature thresholds for control events allowing a different thermostat, fuel and ignition cutoff points, decel control and start enrichment might also be helpful. On later systems,. changes in shift points are also possible.
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07-25-2006, 11:46 AM
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Re: newb question from....... well... a newb.
His is an 89.
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07-25-2006, 12:18 PM
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Re: newb question from....... well... a newb.
it says it in his sig
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07-25-2006, 12:50 PM
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Re: newb question from....... well... a newb.
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it says it in his sig
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not only is it there, its pretty f-ing big too!!
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The most difficult part of buying a moped is telling your parents that you're gay.
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i don't need that cat to satisfy me, all i need is a woman..... but my hand with lipstick on will work just as well..... and has.
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07-25-2006, 02:56 PM
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Re: newb question from....... well... a newb.
i think in another thread recently someone asked him what motor he had
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07-25-2006, 02:58 PM
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Re: newb question from....... well... a newb.
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i think in another thread recently someone asked him what motor he had
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 people need to open there eyes.
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i don't need that cat to satisfy me, all i need is a woman..... but my hand with lipstick on will work just as well..... and has.
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07-25-2006, 05:58 PM
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Re: newb question from....... well... a newb.
ive been meaning to ask, what color is your car my99... ive been thinking about painting mine but not sure which color.
nice explanation from blue tho.... YOUR MY BOY BLUE
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07-25-2006, 06:35 PM
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Re: newb question from....... well... a newb.
I've been burned many, many times before by assuming a signature had anything to do with the questions being asked, so I always ask. I have six vehicles, and could be asking about any one of them at any time. Just wanted to be sure.
An '89 will require a '727 ECM, a 2 BAR MAP, base programming for a turbo car, and it would be really easier if you could grab the ECM and engine wiring harness alng with the engine and trans.
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07-25-2006, 06:39 PM
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Re: newb question from....... well... a newb.
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ive been meaning to ask, what color is your car my99... ive been thinking about painting mine but not sure which color.
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my car is white as shown in my sig  yours is black correct???
EDIT: nevermind i just looked at your myspace and im correct lol well since you already have blue seats and mats why dont you also go with blue interior.
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i don't need that cat to satisfy me, all i need is a woman..... but my hand with lipstick on will work just as well..... and has.
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07-25-2006, 07:27 PM
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Re: newb question from....... well... a newb.
blue bowtie thank you. i'm going to go research some of those terms now.
wow @ owning 6 cars...
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07-26-2006, 05:53 PM
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Re: newb question from....... well... a newb.
http://www.turbochargedsoul.com/
Its been done before...
But... you cal yourself a newb, eh? Well, here's an example of what the car owner had to go through...
Enjoy that thought as you consider your swap...
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07-26-2006, 05:57 PM
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Re: newb question from....... well... a newb.
 screw that. that looks like it is a giant mess in there. yeah good luck with that swap D.
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The most difficult part of buying a moped is telling your parents that you're gay.
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Originally Posted by beef_burrito
i don't need that cat to satisfy me, all i need is a woman..... but my hand with lipstick on will work just as well..... and has.
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07-26-2006, 06:28 PM
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Re: newb question from....... well... a newb.
Hahaha, have fun!
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Hey guess what?
Kiss my ass.
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07-26-2006, 06:41 PM
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Re: newb question from....... well... a newb.
yeah sounded like a good idea until overall threw some pics up. then im like whoa!!!
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Originally Posted by Oz
The most difficult part of buying a moped is telling your parents that you're gay.
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Originally Posted by beef_burrito
i don't need that cat to satisfy me, all i need is a woman..... but my hand with lipstick on will work just as well..... and has.
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