HOW TO....Paint window frames and rubbers


primera man
07-25-2002, 08:29 PM
Thought i'd write this to cut down on the private messages asking how its done.
This is how i do the window frames and rubbers on my models.
Most of you probably know already, or have diffewrent ways, but this is the way I've always done them to get nice clean lines.
There's a few photos to help along the way.
Hope it helps anybody out

Tools needed.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/551302Tools.jpg
Use Tamiya masking tape as it wont bleed paint underneath it. Lay it all over the car frames etc.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/649297CarTapedup.jpg
When all the tape is on the car, push it down nice and smooth with a soft cloth. Then use a tooth pick to lightly trace around where you are going to cut.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/392566Toothpickseems.jpg
Next...very lightly use the knife to trace around all the windows and frames. The tape is very easy to cut. Dont push hard as it will cut deeply into the model.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/227571Cutting.jpg
Peel of the extra tape
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/309572Peelingtapeoff.jpg
Smooth the tape back down again after cutting. The car is now ready for painting.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/176318Readyforpainting.jpg
This part you can either spray if you want(well need alot of masking) or just paint by brush. IMO the brush works out just fine if you use enamels which are longer to dry and leaves a good smooth finish.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/317129Painted.jpg
Also at this stage remember to do the inside of the car so its black on the inside of the frames.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/361611Paintedinside.jpg
Once the first coat is on everything i do the second coat straight away on everything. If you allow the paint to dry to long on the tape it will give a "jagged" edge when pulled off.
As soon as the 2nd coat is done start taking the tape off.
Leave the paint to dry for 2-3 hours.
If you have to do any touch up stuff, i use my marker pen (Gundamarker) to get it looking 100%.
All going well it should end up looking like this......
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/711599Finished.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/768610Finished1.jpg
Once this is done....you can use your marker pen to do panel lines if you want to.....but thats another story !!!
Then you can give the car another light rud with Rubbing Compound then a final Wax.

Cheers
PMan.... :) :)

XenoKryst
07-25-2002, 09:05 PM
Well Displayed PMan! :p

Just a quick question, which Tamiya black do you use to achieve a good finish? I am guessing Semi-Gloss but correct me if I'm wrong.

fatboyslim
07-25-2002, 09:12 PM
Nice info P/Man ;)

How many people realise that now he has a digi-cam there will be posts after posts of P/Man stuff!!
Maybe the P/Lady should of bought him an airbrush instead!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:



P.S Kids if you read this DO NOT paint your rubbers as the paint will damage them!

daggerlee
07-25-2002, 09:15 PM
Wow! Very helpful. Naturally, you must do next a step-by-step walkthrough on how to lower a model with lots of pictures or I will fly over to New Zealand and bad things will happen. :flipa: :devil:

Daryl
07-25-2002, 09:51 PM
Thanks PMan... was just about to do the windows on my MR2, so this is a timely tute.

primera man
07-25-2002, 10:10 PM
Semi Gloss black was used for the paint.

fatboyslim...Hehehehe, is it that noticable !!!!....just a good way to lean how to use it and post at the same time !!!;) ;) ;)

Daryl
07-25-2002, 10:14 PM
Will tamiya masking tape bleed if i brush paint with acrylic?

ales
07-26-2002, 02:05 AM
Originally posted by Daryl
Will tamiya masking tape bleed if i brush paint with acrylic?

VERY likely.

Warren, nice writeup. Here's some advice from me:
I've never been able to cut the masking tape on the model. The knife goes through paint and then when you peel the tape off, naturally, you also peel the paint off. I guess with practice you could do it just fine, but those starting in this hobby, be prepared for this and the subsequen redoing of the whole model ;)

Lownslow
07-26-2002, 02:16 AM
:D This is how i do the window frames and rubbers

lol dude you said rubbers (snikering)

hrmodeler
07-26-2002, 02:21 AM
Great tips Pman!

>Originally posted by Daryl
>Will tamiya masking tape bleed if i brush paint with acrylic?

No, if you spray it wil lower preassure. I do that and it don't bleed.

ales
07-26-2002, 03:17 AM
Originally posted by hrmodeler
Great tips Pman!

>Originally posted by Daryl
>Will tamiya masking tape bleed if i brush paint with acrylic?

No, if you spray it wil lower preassure. I do that and it don't bleed.

He was talking about brushpainting

hrmodeler
07-26-2002, 03:32 AM
Oh, sorry, my mistake. :(

obarbosa
07-26-2002, 04:37 AM
;) Thanks PMan this will help a lot.

Cheers.

Orlando.
:sun:

primera man
07-26-2002, 05:06 AM
Alex......There shouldn't really be a problem with cutting the paint as all you are doing is running the knife though the "groove" in the panel lines

flyonthewall
07-26-2002, 05:36 AM
Nice report Warren...

Originally posted by primera man
Alex......There shouldn't really be a problem with cutting the paint as all you are doing is running the knife though the "groove" in the panel lines

I agree, always use a fresh blade - No11's work best - and you wont need to apply much pressure as the Pman mentioned. Do this and it is possible to cut through the tape and leave no mark on the paint at all. If you do scratch the paint underneeth, it doesnt matter coz its gonna be covered with black anyway!

Snooker
07-26-2002, 06:49 AM
Thanks a lot, PMan. I did that with the windshield of the Tamiya Subaru Impreza and the masking tape that is included in the kit. I brushpainted the window frames and the paint went under the masking tape. How could I avoid that?

rhmatt
07-26-2002, 08:37 AM
Super job....I had wondered if I was doing it "right". I guess anyway that works is right, but your way looks much easier! I have airbrushed in the past out of fear of bleeding under the tape. I'll use this method on my current project!!

THANK YOU!

Rick


BTW- Maybe we could all pitch in and buy the Pman an airbrush?? :flash:

ales
07-26-2002, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by flyonthewall
Nice report Warren...



I agree, always use a fresh blade - No11's work best - and you wont need to apply much pressure as the Pman mentioned. Do this and it is possible to cut through the tape and leave no mark on the paint at all. If you do scratch the paint underneeth, it doesnt matter coz its gonna be covered with black anyway!

True. But I was talking about going through paint, and this is not a good idea as it weakens its resistance to masking tape. So my point really is to practice cutting the tape with just the right pressure and not damage the paint.

Forhod
07-26-2002, 09:47 AM
Great tips :)

I have a question though..
How long is the first paint to leave it dry before the second coat?

SilverLotus340R
07-26-2002, 04:12 PM
i think alot of us would like the next "session" to be lowering cars...

if u'd like?

Jay!
07-26-2002, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by primera man
This part you can either spray if you want(well need alot of masking) or just paint by brush.Masking the rest of the body off for this task is easy if you use thin plastic like from shopping bags to cover the rest of the panels and underside. :D
Originally posted by turmio
How about adding this thread to FAQ section? Done. :)

tazdev
07-26-2002, 07:08 PM
How about a HOW TO on how to fit fujimi wheels to a tamyia kit.






Please

primera man
07-27-2002, 02:56 AM
Snooker......just press down as hard as possible with a cloth or rub a toothpick along the edge of the tape to seal it down.

Forhod.....I usually paint all the rubbers and the inside of the car....wait a few minutes (3-4) then add the second coat on.

Thanks for the possitve feed back guys....glad to try and help out.

hrmodeler
07-27-2002, 04:45 AM
Pman allowed me to put this great tip on my web pages, so from now you will able to get to it every time you want it from there.
If you have some useful tip, I will put it there too.

Thanx Pman!

:)

tenzoracerevovii
07-28-2002, 02:33 AM
you know for real cars, the "rubbers", some of the things don't really shine and stuff. You know, for like the window trim and stuff. So wouldn't a flat black look better or more realistic? I'm not sure, just a suggestion...

hrmodeler
07-28-2002, 02:39 AM
I think that best color is semi gloss black.

tenzoracerevovii
07-28-2002, 03:23 AM
ok then. I guess i'll just use that then. :D

endlesskev86
08-07-2002, 11:11 PM
i have the 3M automotive masking tape.........will it work p-MAN??:confused:

djmr2
08-07-2002, 11:19 PM
WOW

you guys should get Tamiya Masking TAPE!!
it's just amazing for modelling masking..

the bigger generic stuff that we all have doesn't work very well, the edges don't seal good and paint usually slides under.. i think those masking tapes were designed more for household uses, than modelling.

GET TAMIYA TAPE 10MM is good.

Honoturtle
08-08-2002, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by tazdev
[B]How about a HOW TO on how to fit fujimi wheels to a tamyia kit.
Well, depends on the kit. You could just remove the brakes but u need to get axles to attach the rims, possible even drill a hold through the suspension pieces, also u might need to grind the suspension pieces for better fitment. For brakes, u can use the one's that either comes with the fujimi or Aoshima rims, or from a model car kit. Hope this helps :)

Purpura Delujo
08-09-2002, 11:16 AM
I just paint all mine by hand with a 1mm brush :P then touch up with the spray..with a brush if i need to

fullbloodchop01
08-09-2002, 11:51 AM
:bloated: :bloated: hey Pman that solves most of our problems thanks,,,, u think that you can make a thread about doing the panel lines ???????????????:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

18Visions
08-09-2002, 12:48 PM
he already did I think

fullbloodchop01
08-09-2002, 01:33 PM
where is it??????

18Visions
08-09-2002, 05:58 PM
shoot maybe im wrong good have swore I see one, probibally not buy him though.... stupid paint fumes:bonghitte

Jay!
08-09-2002, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by fullbloodchop01
:bloated: :bloated: hey Pman that solves most of our problems thanks,,,, u think that you can make a thread about doing the panel lines ???????????????:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Guiddy did it: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?postid=135348#post135348

Primera Man just uses markers now...

tazdev
08-09-2002, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by jay@af
Guiddy did it: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?postid=135348#post135348

Primera Man just uses markers now...

the cheat:D .


speaking of Guiddy has anyone seen him round recently?

dales_jp
12-05-2009, 10:06 PM
how do i apply marker pen for panel lines? panel lines are very small in gaps...

fatboyslim
12-06-2009, 04:30 AM
how do i apply marker pen for panel lines? panel lines are very small in gaps...

Use the ultra-fine tipped pens

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