Is a Bigger oil filter Useful?

nfoss · 03-09-2006, 01:33 PM

I've read about a couple of people putting in larger-than-needed oil filters on their GPs. Why do some people do this - what's the benefit?

ern2112 · 03-09-2006, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nfoss

I've read about a couple of people putting in larger-than-needed oil filters on their GPs. Why do some people do this - what's the benefit?

LOL....yeah....I have one of those "oversized" oil filters myself....mobile one extend life filter......you cant even hardly see the difference between that and the AC delco!! I just use it because I run the mobile one 15k syn oil. Do not believe it makes any differance in my case whatsover.

richtazz · 03-09-2006, 01:43 PM

There is absolutely NO reason to put a longer filter on. There are actually some vehicles that a longer filter causes dry start problems because the additional oil retained in the filter overcomes the surface tension and the oil drains back. If your filter is mounted vertically, and the filter won't hang down too far where it could get hit by anything, it won't "hurt" anything, but there is no advantage either. If your filter mounts horizontally or at an angle greater than 45 degrees, stay with the factory filter.

BNaylor · 03-09-2006, 02:09 PM

IMO a waste of money. For the same cost you can get a K&N Performance Gold Oil Filter. That is all I use now.

nfoss · 03-09-2006, 02:12 PM

OK that's what I thought - a performance oil filter, though, I would be interested in. Right now I use Fram 3387A oil filters.

ern2112 · 03-09-2006, 02:13 PM

Hummm..may have to try that K&N Bob.....same price as the M1 if I recall

BNaylor · 03-09-2006, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by nfoss

OK that's what I thought - a performance oil filter, though, I would be interested in. Right now I use Fram 3387A oil filters.

K&N makes two types of Performance Gold direct replacement (short) and long. Short is the one I use. Cost around $10.99.

BNaylor · 03-09-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bnaylor3400

K&N makes two types of Performance Gold direct replacement (short) and long. Short is the one I use. Cost around $10.99.

Forgot to mention the K&N oil filter number is HP-1001.

BTW - Removal is easy on K&Ns. It has a 1” nut at the top of the filter canister.

Langning · 03-09-2006, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bnaylor3400

IMO a waste of money. For the same cost you can get a K&N Performance Gold Oil Filter. That is all I use now.

I used the larger 3970 (?? or whatever the # is) instead of the smaller #3387A oil filter. I buy the cheapest brand - Super Tech - at Walmart and they are of same price at $2.07/ea.

Because I change my oil/filter religiously at 3000-3500 miles interval, I doublt the brand quality or filter size make a difference to my car.

richtazz · 03-09-2006, 03:26 PM

cut one of those cheapo filters in half, and you'll never use another one. You might as well filter your oil through an old sock.

ern2112 · 03-09-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Langning

I used the larger 3970 (?? or whatever the # is) instead of the smaller #3387A oil filter. I buy the cheapest brand - Super Tech - at Walmart and they are of same price at $2.07/ea.

Because I change my oil/filter religiously at 3000-3500 miles interval, I doublt the brand quality or filter size make a difference to my car.

One reservation I would have here is whether or not there is a diaphram in the filter to help keep oil in the top of the motor....thus helping prevent dry starts. You can look and see if it is there or not....it is by where to filter screws in...look inside the filter holes....should be a black piece of rubber there covering the in/outs.

BNaylor · 03-09-2006, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by richtazz

cut one of those cheapo filters in half, and you'll never use another one. You might as well filter your oil through an old sock.

Yeah, thats true Rich and I agree. Someone on the forum opened up a Fram and didn't have much good to say about that brand. I can imagine Walmart or Lube n Go el cheapo generic stuff. I don't take any chances and go with the good name brand stuff. Can't afford to blow my motor at a race just because I wanted to be cheap. But to each his/her own.

However, like everyone else I shop at Walmart to get consumable items like bulk name brand tranny ATF fluid and motor oil. Also, they have the best prices on the Autolite copper core spark plugs we modded guys use.

BTW - The K&N oil filter was developed for a racing engine so you cant go wrong with one in the daily commuter. I luv that 1" nut on top.

ern2112 · 03-09-2006, 03:42 PM

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I luv that 1" nut on top.

Yeah....like that too. Think I will try one next time. Makes it easy to get out. I finally learned to turn my wheel all the way to the right.....makes the whole process painless. 10-15 minutes man......and I am done with the change.

richtazz · 03-09-2006, 04:15 PM

The K&N's are made with a thicker steel outer shell and a better o-ring than even teh oem AC-Delco which can withstand higher pressure than a stock filter, another plus if you run high R's while racing.

jimmyv-21 · 03-09-2006, 05:04 PM

now i am scared....

guess i better start taking the bus until i can get the fram off...

lol just kidding...i use the k&n but i cant afford the mobil 1 synthetic so i put the mobil 1 6000 mile, and i change to less than every 3000. since i dont race it should be alright.

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