I just got a 96 Neon Sport Coupe. Its nice, but Ive had Hondas up until this point.(havent even changed name yet). I still want to rev to 8 grand and have my VTEC. So, Ive already decided to put the Honda B16A motor or H22A in my car. And Im getting a 92-95 Civic EX guage cluster and 94-00 Integra mirrors. Id like to know what you think. You all may see it as a sacrilege, but I see it in SPORT COMPACT CAR!

You've actually seen Sport Compact Car Swap a Honda engin into a Dodge Neon? When and where?

There's that "Identuty Crisis" NEon running around up in Canada. Honda Civic front end molded on, Lexus RX400 tail lights on rear. I think he still has the Neon motor though.

im saying if i did this, my car would be in the mag. i got the b16 intended for the crx here, so why shouldnt i do it?

I lyke the idea of puttin' in a honda engine in a neon. Honda can't hang with the looks of the neon... Well that S2000 iz a sweet car, but that's besides the point. Some of them vtechs and type r stuff are pretty quick. Of course my car izn't goin' anywhere fast with its 3 speed automatic (stock, duh!) But if I had the 5 speed I'd drop an Acura or Honda engine in my car just b'cuz they're fast... At times... Well to start with... But so can Neon engines!... If you do 'em right. Right? Haha! Well yeah, if you can/do/wanna put in a Honda engine, tell me all 'bout it. I'll find out for ya if its anatamitically correct. heh. But in the mean, doez anyone have suggestions 'bout what to do with an automatic?... With cruise control... With ABS... And with all them other 'non-racable' features that my highline endures?

Thanks,
Matt

Yo're going to have a pretty tough time putting a Honda motor in a Neon. Honda motors face a completely different direction.

Your right... But anything is possible. Take a look at that Neon in the back of all the tuner mags in the advertizements. That drag-racing one, pushin' lyke 500 poniez... Now tell me he's runnin' a SOHC 2.0 engine with straight up bolt on hp. Haha! Somethin' special is cookin' under that hood and it aint stock. So what I'm sayin' is anythin' is possible. Just find yourself a good body man... A great chassis man... An engine man of course... Oh, and a Chrysler engineer... And from there I think we all could wing out some Honda engines in our wipz. ;)

Matt

There are two real quick Neons.. well maybe some more but the fastest one has a 2.4L swap from a Stratus, Sebring etc (it also has a Hahn Racecraft turbo). The Engine at least faces the same way as the original. And there is another one with the 2.0L that has to be pushing well over 500hp. It uses the Hahn Racecraft turbo.

But anyway, if you have the money anything is possible. But it would prob be cheaper and more effective to do a 2.4L swap. No replacent for displacement!

A "Real" engine swap would be something Chrysler related. Perhaps a blueprinted 2.4 from a Stratus then turbocharged. Personally, I'd find a way to swap an SR20DE(T?) in there as it will take a helluva lot more boost than a Honda engine...but thats if you insist on not going with a Chrysler engine. Maybe an old DSM engine from a Talon/Eclipse, that would definitely have off-the-shelf potential, not to mention the ease of which you could obtain it. If you must go non-Chrysler and want Variable Valve Timing, then perhaps an SR20VE or an SR16VEN1, 190hp from 2.0 litres or 200 from 1.6L--although the latter is *extremely* hard to come by...but the former comes relatively easily from the Nissan Primera Camino and Primera 2.0Te-V for about $2500, SR20DET about $1000-1500, and a JDM SR20DE with standard 10:1 compression will run under $800...if you're looking for maximum *boosted* power, then run an SR series and give SCC something to *really* fall head-over-heels about.

The neon you are referring to has a 2.0 DOHC engine. The one sponsored by Hahn Racecraft is a 2.0 DOHC as well... nearly stock except for the turbo and nitrous. The car pushes a little over 600hp. The most common swaps are 2.2L and 2.4L chrysler engines. The Honda does face the different way, plus you'd have to have a tranny that matches up. If you've got the dinero to sink into it... do it... but why? Gotta remember the one problem that Honda engines have... Torque... or lack there of. Anyone will tell you this... ANYONE!!

Hey, what about the difference in the SOHC and the DOHC? I've a SOHC 2.0, kinda wondering how many liters the DOHC is, and what the difference in performance is between the two. Also, which Neons have the DOHC? Expresso/Sport? Just kinda curious. That'd be a nice easy swap... If the difference is even worth the time of changing it out. I'd only swap an engine if I'ma see a helluva difference.
I like my 2.0 SOHC. Speakin' of cams... What all is located in the cylinder head of the Neon? I can score a brand new refurbished head for free, I just gotta give my uncle my old one once I take it out so he can machine it out. But I'm thinkin'... Every time you change out that head to add onto it, thats a gasket ($35+ a pop). So what I'd lyke to do is get the head now, and whenever money comez in, add onto it. Is the cam in there? valve springs? Etc. I know different cars have shit in different parts. You gotta r'member, about 60% of my time is dedicated to my Neon... The other 40% is to my Challenger... So I'ma fan of all generations. If you knew anything between then and now, you'd be amazed on what technology could do to a car. Computers!? Shyt, if you could throw on a computer or anything of the sort onto my Challenger (pushing 410 whp... 'not bad') and add the hp computers add to the euros, shyt... Damn thing would fly. So... Back to subject... Bolt ons as opposed to swap? What'chall think? An engine is an engine, displacement is displacement... Just use that displacement wisely with every little thing you attach to that block. Knaw mean?

Matt

The DOHC has two cams instead of one. They have exactly the same displacement. 2.0

Honestly... I assumed that DUAL meant there was two cams, but seriously... Is there more/better performance?

Matt

It's absolutely pointless to sink a Honda motor into a Neon chassis, simply because for a less amount of money, you can get much more performance out of a Stratus swap or even building up the stock 2.0L engine for the price you'd pay to have that engine bay and motor mounts custom molded to the engine you'd like to drop in, then, as was stated earlier, you'd have to find a tranny to match up to it...since the motor does face an entirely different direction.

Also, the performance difference between the SOHC and DOHC neons is noticeable...but the SOHC is supposedly 132HP on paper stock, where the DOHC pushes 150HP stock...which is probably more like 140HP after all the parasitic losses and such...however the DOHC version responds much better to mods, and it takes less to make it fast compared to that of the SOHC. The 95 SOHC's had the most aggresive cam which made them more of the competitive neons as well.

I've owned both a 95 SOHC and now a 99 DOHC, and I can say from experience the DOHC is a much better performer indeed. And the raw horsepower and torque this motor can put out, will probably spank a lot of the Honda's out there once you remove most of the factory restrictions placed upon the motor (air intake, exaust, pulley, etc...)

If you want your car to perform either swap to the 2.4L Stratus, or build the one you have...dropping a Honda motor in is just simply impractical in all aspects. Or at least, I think so... ;)

actually the sohc has 132hp and 150hp, the magnum engine is 150hp and the regular engine is 132, the difference is a bigger cam and a little more compression

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i agree that a honda motor in a 1st gen neon would be pretty sick but have you seen the power gains possible w/ the stock 2.0 sohc??? ive seen one w/ a turbo and 387hp, 20psi and pump gas. check it out on www.neonparts.net they offer alot of parts for both dohc and sohc

you got to be crazy to even think of putting a damn honda motor into the neon. you would be defeating the purpose of having a dodge all american car god dammit! for get honda's. just fix a dohc motor and you will be very happy with the performance that it produces.turbo that biatch!!! wwwaaaahhhhhhhttzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! (blow off valve). dah!

Don't swap a honda in, just use a DOHC engine, you can see 8grand. A good set or cams like crane 18's or the 22's coupled with full exaust a good intake and a computer. You can put down a decent amount of power, add some head work to that and then eventually either a high compression bottom end or a turbo and you have one quick neon.

actually the sohc has 132hp and 150hp, the magnum engine is 150hp and the regular engine is 132, the difference is a bigger cam and a little more compression


So presumably, I could swap the cam out of my 132 hp sohc for a more aggressive cam and boost my hp substansially, right, and if anyone knows a good place to go for performance neon cams could ya let me know??? thnx

Crane Cams seems to one of the most popular. So I would go through them. Although they don't really offer and radical cam profiles for the SOHC model. I was looking on CompCams website and happen to come across some decent lookign cams as well. So you could try there. Also Lunati is known to make decent cams but I'm not sure if they make them for the neon or not. But if you just want a couple of horses you can use the magnum cam, or the cam from a 95, the 95 cam is good for about 5whp I read somewhere. On out light cars thats a noticable difference. The magnum cam will give you some power but you won't see 150hp not unless you swap the head as well I'm prtty sure. If you have a SOHC which you do if your going for a magnum the crane 14 is the way to go from crane. Its the highest and will give you the most gain, but you might need to buy a new ECU to be able to use it to its full potential.

Thanks for the info bro, I'll definately check all that shit out, I plan on going nuts with my neon in the spring, I just have to make it through the winter without pulling my E brake right into a telephone pole, lol. FUCk I love winter, hehe.

Yeah I hit a pole in my Turbo Bird was not fun... 50mph staright into it... just be careful... you want to go nuts on teh car turbo it... other than tat you will max out at about 220-230 horses....

dude, why dont you just drop an srt4 motor in. for 1600 you can get a motor, 3500 get a bigger turbo and computer, use your stock tranny. and there you go, 400hp daily driver, with no drivability issues and no fabrication. or get that motor, and get ahold of one of the vendors on srtforums.com and get a bigger turbo. that motor is capable of more than 700hp, fully forged and blueprinted. there you go, a 10second neon, thats a daily driver! and its a direct bolt-in, NO fabrication. seen more than one done

Wow! This is still going?

I've had like 2 or 3 cars since then...Look at the original post date.

Now, I have the black car in my sig, just blew it up yesterday. B series time....

i agree that a honda motor in a 1st gen neon would be pretty sick but have you seen the power gains possible w/ the stock 2.0 sohc??? ive seen one w/ a turbo and 387hp, 20psi and pump gas. check it out on www.neonparts.net they offer alot of parts for both dohc and sohc

there is absolutely no way you can run a stock neon motor with 20psi on pump gas, just physically impossiable with that high compression! compression needs to be 8.5:1 or less to be anywhere near that power. but yes you can get a lot of power out of a 2.0L motor