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Honda vs Honda vs HondaSiGNAL748 11-02-2005, 05:09 PM BP2K2Max 11-02-2005, 06:13 PM that was sick. that car redline's higher than the bike does and makes 4x as much power. what kind of bike was the honda, a cbr1000 or somethin'? GForce957 11-02-2005, 06:36 PM Wow, awesome vid. 500th post. Yippee! Ace$nyper 11-02-2005, 07:51 PM that was so cool lil car ripps ZackKVtec 11-02-2005, 10:19 PM also interested in what type of bike that was. nice vid SiGNAL748 11-03-2005, 12:28 AM my immediate guess would be a 1000rr, but don't quote me on that. drftk1d 11-03-2005, 12:40 AM thats really cool but it just goes to prove that F1 cars own TatII 11-03-2005, 12:58 AM too bad they didn't race on a road course. thats what i'm truely interested in. the best lap times on a F1 vs moto gp SiGNAL748 11-03-2005, 02:11 AM too bad they didn't race on a road course. thats what i'm truely interested in. the best lap times on a F1 vs moto gp that'd be freakin insane. -The Stig- 11-03-2005, 02:17 AM A car will 99% of the time be faster than a Bike on a road course. Bike's cannot brake, accelerate or corner as fast as a car. It's simple physics. shnailpower 11-03-2005, 11:09 AM i dunno about that, the bikes obviously have better acceleration, and they can get alot closer 2 the apex beacause of their smaller size, if fitted w/ performance brakes they can stop faster than a car because they have such little mass to slow. If both vehicles r maxed out to their highest performing ability the car will win, because we can make it go alot faster, but if u gave a car guy and a bike guy $10,000 the bike would be moving alot faster around a track. -The Stig- 11-03-2005, 11:14 AM Nope, sorry. A car fitted for basic track racing will always out corner a bike. Fact is a car can corner faster than a Bike. If you've ever ridden a bike you'll know that you've got to slow down alot more than driving a car around a similar turn. Car's have roughly 100 times more grip available than a Bike. Now, a stock Civic won't out handle a Stock CBR600RR. You'd have to move up to a Corvette or something of that performance level to out do a Bike. R1Rider, a member here, once told me of a friend of his with an FD Rx7. In the straights he'd keep up, but in the corners the Rx7 would out run him. And he's on a 1000cc Bike! drftk1d 11-03-2005, 04:07 PM i dunno about that, the bikes obviously have better acceleration, and they can get alot closer 2 the apex beacause of their smaller size, if fitted w/ performance brakes they can stop faster than a car because they have such little mass to slow. If both vehicles r maxed out to their highest performing ability the car will win, because we can make it go alot faster, but if u gave a car guy and a bike guy $10,000 the bike would be moving alot faster around a track. explain how 2 wheels give more traction that four? Gohan Ryu 11-03-2005, 04:59 PM A lot of people think a bike will outhandle a car because it is so much lighter and can change directions very quickly. But yeah cars have much more tire in contact with the road, not to mention a more stable center of gravity and spoilers adding downforce etc... street_racer_00 11-03-2005, 05:31 PM Why not make it fair and put an unlimited hydroplane against the two? That's like pitting technology from the 1800's against today's technology...well...actually that's exactly what it is...hulls are so 200 years ago. -The Stig- 11-03-2005, 07:15 PM Ok, Tat wanted to see what the handling difference between the two. The Location: Suzuka Circuit Japan http://www.yamaha-racing.com/assets/images/upload/press/200238162149suzuka.gif Suzuka Circuit F1 Qualifying time (Jenson Benton Honda F1 2005): 1'46.141 in the rain http://world.honda.com/F1/2005/18japan/qualifying/img/02.jpg vs MotoGP (The F1's of bikes) Suzuka Circuit fastest lap ever (Rider Loris Capirossi 2001): 2'04.777 http://www.speedtv.com/_assets/library/img/large/57240_capirossi.pi.test.web.jpg Ok, so maybe an F1 car is unfair. I mean, they pull upwards of 5+G's in a corner. So, here's a more fair comparison Suzuka Circuit JGTC 500 race (Mobil 1 NSX 2002): 1'58.531 http://www.1-accord-club.de/assets/images/mobil1nsx.jpg BP2K2Max 11-03-2005, 10:48 PM this is a vid of a gallardo v. a 999 ducati. the bike wins by a few tenths of a second http://xfer.gofastvideo.com/gallery/getitem/449/1/5thgear_Lambo_vs_ducati_lo.wmv clawhammer 11-03-2005, 10:57 PM That was a pretty nice video. Hondas always win -The Stig- 11-03-2005, 11:37 PM I was looking for that video. Like I said, 99% of the time a car will out perform the bike. TatII 11-04-2005, 11:57 AM great video i just sorta doubted a street car would beat a sport bike because in the current issue of SPEED, they raced the current ultimate street car challenge winning R34 GTR against a 600cc bike and a slightly tweeked 1000cc bike. and also against the C6 vette. the C6 vette got cremed and the 575whp GTR with slicks barely beat the 600cc bike and got beat by the 1000cc bike. the cars could corner faster, and brake harder, but the bikes clips the apex alot closer and could out acelerate the cars on the straights. BP2K2Max 11-04-2005, 02:57 PM i think purpose built track cars and super cars may be faster around a track than a bike. but if you were to put a bike against most other car's(S2000's, 350Z's, M3's) i think the bike will usually come out on top. CassiesMan 11-04-2005, 04:47 PM ANyone got the Clarkson video of the baseline 996 vs an R1? Porsche out cornered the bike, but the bike made up for it in the straights, barely getting beat by the Porsche. BP2K2Max 11-04-2005, 11:38 PM ^i have that vid on my computer. i didn't think it was a fair comparison because the porsche was getting in the bikes way. the biker wasn't able to really lean his bike and drag his knees around turns. i think if they had run for individual lap times instead of running side by side around the track the bike would have won. Automotive Network, Inc., Copyright ©2012
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