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SilEighty Conversion


Onevia
05-23-2002, 06:12 PM
Could someone please tell me what is needed to convert a 240sx Hatch into a SilEighty? Is it just the fenders, hood, headlights, and front bumper that is needed or am I forgetting anything?


Any informaton at all would be greatly appreciated.

J SPEC SilEighty
05-23-2002, 09:12 PM
That's a mistake that a lot of people make. When you say SilEighty most people will automatically think of the S15 front end conversion. A SilEighty is a 180SX that uses Silvia parts, not necessarily just the S15 front end. Say that you swap an SR20DET from the silvia into a 180SX (240SX hatchback in the states) then you could say that you have a sileighty because you are mixing the 2 cars together, thus creating the name "Sil Eighty"
But for the S15 front end conversion like your talking about, you will need the fenders (an aftermarket company such as strawberry face makes the ones that you will need, the OEM S15 metal fenders will not fit the 240 chassis), headlights, hood, front bumper, bumper support and radiator support since the radiator will now hook on in a different place. :)

Jay!
05-23-2002, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by J SPEC SilEighty
That's a mistake that a lot of people make. When you say SilEighty most people will automatically think of the S15 front end conversion.
...
But for the S15 front end conversion like your talking about...Where did he mention the S15? :confused: With a username like "Onevia," I'd assume he knows what the SilEighty is...

J SPEC SilEighty
05-23-2002, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by jay@af
Where did he mention the S15? :confused: With a username like "Onevia," I'd assume he knows what the SilEighty is...

Ok you caught me :finger: I just re read it and see that he wasn't necessarily talking about the S15 front end.
I'm just used to the kids that I hang out with at school because all I ever hear about is how the S15 front end is this and how the S15 front end is that. So I just assumed that's what he was talking about

Onevia
05-24-2002, 12:34 PM
Sorry I should of been more specific. I meant the s13 conversion, I am planing on buying a 240sx hatch with front end damage and a blown, or no engine at all, then importing a sr20det. I am also going to purcase a Bomex body Kit (Front(Silvia), Side Skirts(240sx), and Rear Valance(240sx)). So Would it be better/cheaper to just source the silvia(s13) fenders, hood, Headlights, bumper support, and rad support? Or Would a kit with the front bumper as well be the way to go.?

J SPEC SilEighty
05-24-2002, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by Onevia
I meant the s13 conversion

Damn I was wrong :mad:

TatII
05-25-2002, 09:10 AM
hahahah gotcha J SPEC:hehehe:

240sxSilvia
05-27-2002, 05:36 PM
Hey, ive never done a conver. before, but i plan to and have researched it A LOT...like for months


Anyway, ive heard that the best thing to do is get the entire front clip of a silvia SR from japan...that way the harness will be good, and you'll have a bunch of parts there so you dont have to order if youre stuck.

Also, NO, sileighty doesnt mean just a part from a silvia on a 180sx. It means the whole front end conversion. Thats how it got its name. You know, the sileighty used to be a production car because so many people fixed their bashed up 180sxes with cheaper silvia fronts.
The sileighty signature is the front fenders with the hatch. The headlights could be changed to the three-each projection beams on the jdm silvia also.

J SPEC SilEighty
05-27-2002, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by 240sxSilvia
Also, NO, sileighty doesnt mean just a part from a silvia on a 180sx. It means the whole front end conversion. Thats how it got its name. You know, the sileighty used to be a production car because so many people fixed their bashed up 180sxes with cheaper silvia fronts.
The sileighty signature is the front fenders with the hatch. The headlights could be changed to the three-each projection beams on the jdm silvia also.

Sileighty doesn't really mean anything..... it's just a new name that you can call your car such as at the NOPI show last year in atlanta there was a Honda CRX with an NSX engine swapped into the trunk of the CRX and they called it the CRNSX. So it's just a name. So therefore the word sileighty doesn't mean a front end conversion of a silvia onto the 180sx. yes your right about it being a production (well you can call it production if you want but there were only 400 made) car but they didn't just put the silvia front end on the 180 when they made this car. things like the suspension were used off of the silvia on the 180 when they made the sileighty. so it's not just the front end. so if you swap in an SR from a silvia into your 180/240 hatch then you've got a "sileighty"
Once again, it's just a name so you can call your car a "sileighty" if you use the damn speaker panel from a silvia on your 180.

Tyan
05-28-2002, 04:22 AM
S15 front with S13 or S14 is referred to as Strawberry face!

J SPEC SilEighty
05-28-2002, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by Tyan
S15 front with S13 or S14 is referred to as Strawberry face!

Yes, the S15 front end on an S13 or S14 can be referred to as strawberry face because the japanese translation for the numbers 1 and 5 is ichi-go, and the word ichi-go also means strawberry in japanese. So hence the name strawberry (15) face.

I read that in some magazine, but I can't remember where.

Jay!
05-28-2002, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by J SPEC SilEighty
Sileighty doesn't really mean anything..... . No, he's right. The SilEighty was a very-limiten production car in Japan. Off the top of my head, I don't remember if it was Nissan or Nismo that put them together. In any case, there are "real" SilEightys (few and far between) and there are Silvias/180SXs converted into SilEighty replicas.

The name "SilEighty" was made the same way the cars were:
The front of a Silvia, the rear of a one-eighty.

Conversely, a "OneVia" is a 180SX front end with a Silvia rear. Sound familiar? It should... it's the same as the U.S. 240SX.

:flash:

J SPEC SilEighty
05-28-2002, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by jay@af
No, he's right. The SilEighty was a very-limiten production car in Japan.

Yes I know he was right, and I acknowledged that in my post. Originally posted by Me
yes your right about it being a production (well you can call it production if you want but there were only 400 made) car
Yes you can always convert to a sileighty, but real sileighty's are very rare and almost impossible to come by these days. I read on some japanese site that at an auction a real one was recently sold for about 3.4 million yen or roughly about $27,500.

Onevia
05-28-2002, 06:50 PM
Sweet I just found a 240SX Fastback With no engine and no tranny with front end damage for 500 dollars cdn($315USD)!!!!!

Jay!
05-28-2002, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by J SPEC SilEighty
Yes I know he was right, and I acknowledged that in my post. I know you know. :) I was just pointing out the "meaning." :p
Originally posted by Onevia
Sweet I just found a 240SX Fastback With no engine and no tranny with front end damage for 500 dollars cdn($315USD)!!!!! So you're buying it today, right? ;)

J SPEC SilEighty
05-29-2002, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by jay@af
I know you know. :) I was just pointing out the "meaning." :p

Ok, it's all good :D :cool:

Onevia
05-30-2002, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by jay@af
So you're buying it today, right? ;)

I am picking it up on Monday:) :)

J SPEC SilEighty
05-30-2002, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Onevia


I am picking it up on Monday:) :)

Very Cool :cool:

So what do you plan on doing? Finding a used KA or are you going to go the SR route? Let us know :)

Onevia
05-30-2002, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by J SPEC SilEighty


Very Cool :cool:

So what do you plan on doing? Finding a used KA or are you going to go the SR route? Let us know :)


I am going to buy a SR from Unstable-Hybrids (just wouldn't be a SilEighty without a SR20DET:D ). I'm getting the S13 Silvia Conversion form them as well, and a full Bomex body kit(not from Unstable). I'll Post other mods i plan on doing ie. Engine, suspension, ect. soon as I figure it all out.

J SPEC SilEighty
05-30-2002, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by Onevia



I am going to buy a SR from Unstable-Hybrids (just wouldn't be a SilEighty without a SR20DET:D ). I'm getting the S13 Silvia Conversion form them as well, and a full Bomex body kit(not from Unstable). I'll Post other mods i plan on doing ie. Engine, suspension, ect. soon as I figure it all out.
Sounds like a good plan. Do you plan on doing the swap yourself or are you going to pay and have it installed?

Onevia
05-31-2002, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by J SPEC SilEighty

Sounds like a good plan. Do you plan on doing the swap yourself or are you going to pay and have it installed?

Yeah I'm going to do the swap myself, it looks to be pretty straight forward and I have a few mechanic friends that will help me out with it.;)

Onevia
05-31-2002, 12:09 PM
Here is a list of mods i plan on doing (overtime).

Engine

-Unstable Hybrids Red Top S-13 SR20DET $2500(USD)

-Trust Turbine Kit, Turbine TD-06S 20G-8.0cm2 Part# 11520004 TKIJ Part# 9463 $2980(USD)

-Trust Intercooler Kit, Type24 (H280 L600 W76) 2 Layer, Side Tank In/Out No.26/No.26
TKIJ Part# 9575 $925(USD)

-HKS Super SQV Blow-off Valve TKIJ Part# 4816 $231(USD)

-HKS Stopper Type Head Gasket 1.2mm Compression Rate 8.3 Bore 87.5 TKIJ Part# 11072 $188(USD)

-HKS Reinforced Valve Springs TKIJ Part# 10956 $156(USD)

-HKS Camshaft 256 deg. Duration IN. 10.5mm Valve Lift TKIJ Part# 10909 $266(USD)

-HKS Camshaft 256 deg. Duration EX. 10mm Valve Lift TKIJ Part# 10910 $266(USD)

-HKS Adjustable Slide Cam-Pulley TKIJ Part# 18194 $117(USD)

-HKS Adjustable Slide Cam-Pulley TKIJ Part# 18194 $117(USD)

-HKS Super Power Flow Intake Kit TKIJ Part#986 $138(USD)

-HKS 450cc injectors Part#1402-RN006 TKIJ Part#11308 $172(USD)

-HKS Fuel Rail Part#1407-RN001 TKIJ Part#11299 $211(USD)

-HKS Fuel Pump 60L/H Part#1407-RA002 TKIJ Part#11331

Electronics

-AEM EMS Programable Engine Management System $1400(USD)

-HKS Turbo Timer Type1 TKIJ Part# 17360 $116(USD)

-HKS Turbo Timer Harness Type NT-1 TKIJ Part#9129 $9(USD)

Transmission

-Trust Power System 6 Speed Transmission TKIJ Part# 12461 $6101(USD)

Clutch

-Cucso Rocket Clutch Disk TKIJ Part# 2417 $243(USD)

-Cusco Rocket Clutch Cover TKIJ Part# 2477 $250(USD)

-Cusco Chrome Flywheel 4.8Kg TKIJ Part# 2370 $329(USD)

Suspension

-Tein FLEX Damper, Part# DSN20-61SS1, Spring Rate (Front Kgf/mm:5, Lbs/in:280)
(Rear Kgf/mm:4, Lbs/in:224), MSRP $1560(USD) W/Pillowball Upper Mount

-Tein EDFC (Electronic Damping Force Controller)
Part# EDK01-12140 MSRP $380(USD)

I haven't figured out what Brakes, Wheels, and Tires I want yet but I'll post when I do.:D

Bean Bandit
05-31-2002, 01:48 PM
long way to go man but tight:devil: if you get all those parts you'll have a hell of a car:D

BTW for the brakes how about some Brembo kit?

SR20DETpower
05-31-2002, 04:31 PM
wth good is a chromed out Flywheel going to do you? no one sees that LMAO.... that'd be like getting the insides of your exaust pipes chromed LMAO......... you get flywheels for lightweight so your engine revs faster, don't get one dipped in heavy chromium...not a wise decision.

Onevia
05-31-2002, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by SR20DETpower
wth good is a chromed out Flywheel going to do you? no one sees that LMAO.... that'd be like getting the insides of your exaust pipes chromed LMAO......... you get flywheels for lightweight so your engine revs faster, don't get one dipped in heavy chromium...not a wise decision.

Sorry yo but it ain't my fault if cusco chromed it, I'm buying it because it is a lightend flywheel and not because it is chromed!!

J SPEC SilEighty
05-31-2002, 07:31 PM
Nice list of parts onevia. What site are you at that your copying and pasting all that stuff from. I'm just guessing that your doing that because of all the part numbers and all

SR20DETpower
06-01-2002, 11:55 AM
why don't you buy one that isn't chromed from another company, Im sure it will be lighter, nothing like a heavy coat of chromium on parts you pay for the lightweight lol... just common sense

Onevia
06-01-2002, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by J SPEC SilEighty
Nice list of parts onevia. What site are you at that your copying and pasting all that stuff from. I'm just guessing that your doing that because of all the part numbers and all


Most of the stuff (TKIJ Part #'s) is from Taka Kaira Inc Japan (www.takakaira.com). The rest is from the manufacturers websites.

Onevia
06-01-2002, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by SR20DETpower
why don't you buy one that isn't chromed from another company, Im sure it will be lighter, nothing like a heavy coat of chromium on parts you pay for the lightweight lol... just common sense

Thanks for the info SR20DETpower, it never even occured to me that chrome would add to the weight. Could you maybe inform me of a company that sells a better flywheel please:D .

SR20DETpower
06-01-2002, 03:13 PM
http://www.jspec.com/nismoflywheel.html theres the NISMO flywheel....


sure that would be better then a chrome one..... theres probably a few more but I heard someone on here say they heard of a few bad experiences with other aftermarket ones......

Bean Bandit
06-01-2002, 03:58 PM
If I'm not totaly mistaken the NISMO flywheel (6.2kg) is heavier then the one from takakaira (4.8kg):rolleyes:

SR20DETpower
06-01-2002, 07:35 PM
"Flywheels dont give you HP...what it does is allow the engine to rev up faster. Idea being of less rotational mass. =D But beware...it's hard to find a good lightened flywheel for the 240SX...most of them dont work too well and they are too expensive for the little gains you do get. Also they tend to...at least on 240SX's...to not match up right and eat starters like chew toys. So...beware..best bet it to get your stock flywheel and machine it down and lighten it...that way you save money and it will match up perfectly."

Nissanspdr said that, sorry I don't know how to do quotes on here, how do you LOL....

as he says the stock one would be best but lightened so it matched perfectly...some of them don't and mess things up...... I would think one from NISMO would match up as good as the stock one.

J SPEC SilEighty
06-01-2002, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by SR20DETpower

Nissanspdr said that, sorry I don't know how to do quotes on here, how do you LOL....


click the button that says "quote" down by the post reply button

SR20DETpower
06-01-2002, 09:04 PM
click the button that says "quote" down by the post reply button test

Jay!
06-01-2002, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by SR20DETpower
test Yup. :p

Onevia
06-04-2002, 03:35 PM
Damn it now their saying that they misquoted me and they want $850 CND ($535 USD) for it. But thats alot of money for a smashed up car with no engine, no tranny, and missing interior panels!! So I'm going to try and get one at a salvage, or police auction or sumtin like dat.

Onevia
06-18-2002, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by SR20DETpower
why don't you buy one that isn't chromed from another company, Im sure it will be lighter, nothing like a heavy coat of chromium on parts you pay for the lightweight lol... just common sense


It's a Chrome Moly Flywheel not chromed as in shinny but the light wieght Metal Alloy that is used to make Bike Frames and the like.:D

180driftking
05-23-2003, 12:48 PM
a sileighty is a 180sx back (240 hatchback) with a s13 front end. just putting the sr20det engine in the 240 just doesnt make it a sileighty because in japan, (where i used to live) most of the cars are either sr20det or ca18det. but im coming back to florida for college and bringing a s13 front end to put on a 240 hatchback. so when i take pictures ill show them to you and then we can work something out.
Drift king, AKA Fintsta

dayna240sx
05-23-2003, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by 180driftking
a sileighty is a 180sx back (240 hatchback) with a s13 front end. just putting the sr20det engine in the 240 just doesnt make it a sileighty because in japan, (where i used to live) most of the cars are either sr20det or ca18det. but im coming back to florida for college and bringing a s13 front end to put on a 240 hatchback. so when i take pictures ill show them to you and then we can work something out.
Drift king, AKA Fintsta


Where the hell did this come from this post is over a year old. And thanks for that info but most of us already know....

Dorikin
05-23-2003, 05:14 PM
AEM EMS is meh

get APEX SAFC or bling out w.MoTec

Sanchi
05-24-2003, 12:55 AM
DUDE 180drift...guy... (:confused: :confused: how do you drift back words?? ohh wait i got it nm :bloated: ) well back to my point dont bring back old threads like this especialy a YEAR godam OLD ones!!! :bloated: cause replying to ppl that arnt even here anymore is pointless and kinda deserves a http://www3.sympatico.ca/travischan/PUB/slap.gif !!!

but hey WELCOME TO AF!!!!!!

nismogt_rfreak
12-16-2006, 07:24 PM
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Chuki_breath
12-16-2006, 08:15 PM
dude wtf is your problem, you bring back a thread that was already once brought back after being a year old. Yet now its like 3 years old.

Yet you typed nothing worth a damn to even look at. Why are you even posting then?

MetalHeadZaid
12-17-2006, 04:16 AM
yeah man, if you're going to act like a retard fuck nugget then save it....

nissan_240sx
12-17-2006, 07:43 AM
lol close

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