Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online!
Become a fan of Igor Sushko on Facebook!
-
Please Register or Login to access: DriverSide DriverSide Home | Service & Repair | Car Prices | Parts & Accessories | Reviews & Advice | My Garage
Google  
Web AF
See Latest Posts
Access AF from your phone - point your mobile browser to http://m.automotiveforums.com
Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Dodge > Neon/Plymouth Neon
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Email this Page Email this Page | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-13-2005, 01:12 AM   #1
m2736185
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Queens, New York
Posts: 46
m2736185 Normal reputation
Neon falling apart

My 1996 Neon is now @ around 100,000 Miles.....I wish I knew for sure but the speedometer and odometer stopped working... or started working "occasionally" @ 80,000 Miles. Right now the main problem is when it takes off it starts shaking like its about to cut of... like a put put put type noise. Think it could be the resistive wires? I replaced the sparkplugs a month ago but not the wires. Another thing it started doing is overheating...well it only overheats in traffic. The coolant would be boiled until it evaporated and the coolant container would pop open. It cant be the radiator so im thinking maybe its just the thermostat. When I turn the heat on I get it down to 3/4, more depending on the traffic. It doesn't look good...who knows what's gonna go next
m2736185 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2005, 01:34 AM   #2
sheetmagnet
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Monroe, Michigan
Posts: 168
sheetmagnet Normal reputation
Send a message via Yahoo to sheetmagnet
Re: Neon falling apart

Um yeah I would replace the stat and flush it all out to make sure and replace with new coolant. If your car is overheating that badly, over and over, it will try diesling itself early and you will toast your motor. Sounds like you might have already started to... but being optimistic, fix your cooling system immediately and give it a try, and maybe see if there is life left in it still. Oh yeah change your oil and filter too (after the collant prob is fixed).
sheetmagnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2005, 11:38 AM   #3
joe92k1500
AF Regular
 
joe92k1500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Posts: 271
joe92k1500 Normal reputation
Re: Neon falling apart

If in traffic you mean not really moving, then i would look to see if your cooling fans are comming on at all. any engine will over heat if air isnt moving through the radiatior. I would replace the t'stat and coolant anyway. Cant hurt.
joe92k1500 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2005, 12:00 PM   #4
das2123
Tuning Neons since '97
 
das2123's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 2,966
das2123 Normal reputation
Send a message via AIM to das2123 Send a message via Yahoo to das2123
Re: Neon falling apart

Quote:
Originally Posted by m2736185
My 1996 Neon is now @ around 100,000 Miles.....
Time to change the timing belt, tensioner pulley and the water pump.

Quote:
Originally Posted by m2736185
I wish I knew for sure but the speedometer and odometer stopped working... or started working "occasionally" @ 80,000 Miles.
Read this post for this problem...
http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?t=118450

Quote:
Originally Posted by m2736185
Think it could be the resistive wires? I replaced the sparkplugs a month ago but not the wires.
What kind of plugs did you put in there? The neon doesn't respond well to platinum or split-fire plugs. You may see it run ok for awhile but in the end they will fail you. The wires could go bad and if you haven't changed them in over 100,000 miles, it may be time.
das2123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2005, 05:36 PM   #5
neon_rt
AF Enthusiast
 
neon_rt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 833
neon_rt Normal reputation
Re: Neon falling apart

I would change the Head gasket if it were mine.
Hg's like to go out around 100K.
neon_rt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2005, 06:16 PM   #6
das2123
Tuning Neons since '97
 
das2123's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 2,966
das2123 Normal reputation
Send a message via AIM to das2123 Send a message via Yahoo to das2123
Re: Re: Neon falling apart

Quote:
Originally Posted by neon_rt
I would change the Head gasket if it were mine.
Hg's like to go out around 100K.
Good call, but if it has the MLS hg, then he may be fine!
das2123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2005, 10:34 PM   #7
m2736185
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Queens, New York
Posts: 46
m2736185 Normal reputation
Re: Neon falling apart

Well see the prob is I dont think it is worth it to change timing belt water pump etc. But the spark plugs were actually Platinum...maybe i can just stick the old ones back in and see what happens. The fans come on every now and then so I dont think thats the problem
m2736185 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2005, 01:18 AM   #8
sheetmagnet
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Monroe, Michigan
Posts: 168
sheetmagnet Normal reputation
Send a message via Yahoo to sheetmagnet
Re: Re: Neon falling apart

Quote:
Originally Posted by m2736185
Well see the prob is I dont think it is worth it to change timing belt water pump etc. But the spark plugs were actually Platinum...maybe i can just stick the old ones back in and see what happens. The fans come on every now and then so I dont think thats the problem
Um, are you guys suggesting that platinum plugs alone can make a motor overheat to the point of pegging the gauge?
sheetmagnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2005, 02:25 AM   #9
idriveacab
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: detriot
Posts: 61
idriveacab Normal reputation
Re: Neon falling apart

no a platnum plug is not going to make it over heat. but i think they were meaning as the put put issue. sounds like a head gasket to me. and you say its not worth to fix you can get the timing and water pump and the other things pretty cheap. and it woud take a day to fix depending on your knowledge its all on the same side of the motor so your in and out. it is worth it if you like your car and have the mechanic ability.
idriveacab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2005, 08:31 AM   #10
das2123
Tuning Neons since '97
 
das2123's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 2,966
das2123 Normal reputation
Send a message via AIM to das2123 Send a message via Yahoo to das2123
Re: Re: Re: Neon falling apart

Quote:
Originally Posted by sheetmagnet
Um, are you guys suggesting that platinum plugs alone can make a motor overheat to the point of pegging the gauge?
NO. That is for his takeoff problem.

Quote:
Originally Posted by m2736185
Well see the prob is I dont think it is worth it to change timing belt water pump etc.
It is if you want to keep the engine running. The timing belt has a 100,000 mile life. Some have pushed it as far as 130,000 but it will go out on you eventually, bending some valves while it does it.
das2123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2005, 03:37 AM   #11
sheetmagnet
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Monroe, Michigan
Posts: 168
sheetmagnet Normal reputation
Send a message via Yahoo to sheetmagnet
Re: Re: Re: Re: Neon falling apart

Quote:
Originally Posted by das2123
NO. That is for his takeoff problem.
Um, I knew that before I asked and knew that it was impossible... I was just clarifying the post, in my own subtle way.
sheetmagnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2005, 05:51 AM   #12
m2736185
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Queens, New York
Posts: 46
m2736185 Normal reputation
Re: Neon falling apart

I see that the pump and belt are on the left side of the engine, what needs to be taken out to get to them? And what tools will I need?
m2736185 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2005, 10:39 AM   #13
das2123
Tuning Neons since '97
 
das2123's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 2,966
das2123 Normal reputation
Send a message via AIM to das2123 Send a message via Yahoo to das2123
Re: Re: Neon falling apart

Quote:
Originally Posted by m2736185
I see that the pump and belt are on the left side of the engine, what needs to be taken out to get to them? And what tools will I need?
They won't give you any warning or indication that they are fixing to go out on you. You need some basic tools, some type of manual (Haynes, Chilton's, or FSM), a heavy duty 3-jaw puller (3-5 ton), and if you have access to power tools it will make it easier. Here is a how-to for a SOHC...
http://jball.neons.org/howto/timing_belt/howto.html
das2123 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
 
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD


Bookmarks
Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Dodge > Neon/Plymouth Neon

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:08 PM.

Google  
Web AF
Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
no new posts