09-19-2005, 10:02 PM
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AF Newbie
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Montreal
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Haynes or Chilton's?
I'm looking for a PDF service manual for my cavalier 93 2.2 L.
Thanks
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09-20-2005, 06:49 AM
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AF Enthusiast
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana
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Re: Haynes or Chilton's?
AFAIK, neither company makes electronic (PDF or otherwise) versions. Alldata does still I beleive, but I had an older version (mid 90s) and was unhappy with it. Pictures and diagrams were poor and descriptions were vague.
Paper manuals have always been more useful in my experience. Depending on what I am doing, I usually prefer either the shop manual or Haynes manual first, with Chiltons coming only if Haynes doesn't make a manual for the vehicle.
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09-20-2005, 10:25 PM
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Jizzed In My Pants
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I have nothing bad to say about Haynes manuals. I would definately pick one up.
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09-21-2005, 08:05 AM
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Re: Haynes or Chilton's?
The only bad thing about aftermarket manuals (Haynes, Chiltons, etc) is that they often cover a very large range of years. For instance I think my manual covers 95-01. While a lot of the components stayed the same, there are some differences between the models that are significant. In my case, I have a convertible with corresponding body changes which the manual doesn't even cover. Plus, if a later year comes out with revised torque specs for instance, are you sure Haynes updated their manual?
There is usually a J-Body shop manual up on eBay, or if not not, wait a week or two. I've picked up my last two manuals for my vehicles (1 J-body, 1 U-body) for around $35 a piece.
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09-22-2005, 03:24 PM
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Grande Boleros de Fuego
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Re: Haynes or Chilton's?
Ive got Chiltons
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09-22-2005, 10:17 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Denver, Colorado
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Re: Haynes or Chilton's?
Haynes here! But it, too, is limited. It covers 1988-1994, and has little about Sunbirds. 90% of the stuff covered is off an 89 Cavalier.
Ive discovered most of my questions merely by pulling something apart, looking at it, putting it back together, and discarding with the dozens of screws leftover 
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09-22-2005, 10:44 PM
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Re: Re: Haynes or Chilton's?
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Ive discovered most of my questions merely by pulling something apart, looking at it, putting it back together, and discarding with the dozens of screws leftover |
Most parts are overdesigned anyways. Those left over screws and bolts relly aren't necessary.
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09-22-2005, 10:56 PM
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AF Regular
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Denver, Colorado
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Re: Haynes or Chilton's?
Yeah, well....i dont have an emergency brake anymore, lol!!!!
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09-22-2005, 11:30 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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95-01 Haynes manual here.
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09-24-2005, 05:42 AM
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AF Newbie
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Collegeville, Pennsylvania
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Re: Haynes or Chilton's?
I own all three: official Chevy shop manual, Chilton's, and Haynes. The latter two suck. The official GM shop manual is much more detailed and covers many more things. Got it on eBay. Best $50 I ever spent!
If you have to go with the other two, Chilton's is better than Haynes, for the most part.
Also, don't buy any of those cheap CD-R's on eBay. They are even worse than Chilton's/Haynes, and all are pirated. Bu the actual book, unless you can get a subscription or CD to All-Data.
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