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Black99GST
08-09-2005, 04:32 PM
Is it going to be possible to push 30 lbs on stock internales driven every day? all supporting mods planed: Injecter (not sure what size yet, any suggestions with a 20G?) 255HP fuel pump,EGT. Gauge 0-2000 deg. F, Greddy 24R FMIC,boost gauge 30/30 (boost and vac) type-s BOV, K&N FIPK, E-prom w/ DSMlink or just pocket Logger (depends on income during school), AWD conversion, full 3" turbo-back exhaust (cat only for emission testing if e-prom cant do it alone) rest of time with a test pipe. whats the most i can safely push on stock internals? żżżi dont drive like an ass all the time, so crankwalk wont be a problem with a lot of boost??? any helpfull tips, and hits are greatly appreciated.

scottsee
08-09-2005, 06:40 PM
30lb/min or 30psi?

Black99GST
08-10-2005, 12:58 AM
30psi, sorry, my bad for not being specific. :banghead:

guitarXgeek
08-10-2005, 01:01 AM
30psi on stock internals driven daily? I don't think so ;) There's no reason to have to run that much boost anyways, especially on a daily driver with stock internals. You'll put down plenty of power at ~21psi, and that's plenty for a daily driver.

Black99GST
08-10-2005, 01:31 AM
alright, whats the most i can run? safely? (is that spelled right? looks funky!) on 93 oct. gas...if that makes a differentce, also, what about on race gas?

LandoAWD
08-10-2005, 10:30 AM
Stock internals and light mods...keep her under 22 at MOST. Unless you have a logging device, you are playing Russian Roulette.

4G63t Power
08-10-2005, 12:16 PM
30lbs is completely possible on stock internals... Now as a daily driver... Probably not. A good friend of mine just recently had his car dynoed twice (a week apart) at slowboy. His first pull he made only like 130hp on a Gt35r. After tuning he was making a little over 375hp at 30lbs. He put HKS cams and a sheet metal intake on and went back again. He made 397hp at 25lbs of boost and his intercooler pipe kept blowing off and they were not able to turn it up to 30lbs. Keep in mind, all of this is on stock internals. This shows as long as you know what your doing its possible. Daily driven though I beleive he runs about 23lbs. 30 all day would prob be to hard on the engine though it is possible for short amounts of time. You should look into a dual stage bc.

Right Said Fred
08-10-2005, 12:31 PM
i dont drive like an ass all the time, so crankwalk wont be a problem with a lot of boost??? any helpfull tips, and hits are greatly appreciated.


NO. you will never run 30psi.

If you are footing the bill for that big of an operation why not build your motor too?


Oh and do you want me to teach you what crankwalk is?

Because you have no understanding of what it is.

4G63t Power
08-10-2005, 12:38 PM
OK Mr 1st post. You are so wise and great. He asks for a little help and you bash him. Instead of being an a*shole why dont you just tell him what it is and clear it up instead of being a d*ck about it. There forums arent on here so you can say "I know more than you, haha your an idiot" There here to say "This is what I know... Hope it helps." Go back to where ever you came from because you sh*t is not wanted here...

4G63t Power
08-10-2005, 12:42 PM
:banhim: Mod please... Look at his other post, he is just being an a$$

Right Said Fred
08-10-2005, 12:46 PM
Stop being such a pussy. The kids a douche bag.


More so then you.

spyderturbo007
08-10-2005, 12:52 PM
I would never try running more than 21 or 22 psi on the stock head studs. Without replacing them with ARP's you are going to lift the head at 30psi. That is a virtual guarantee.

spyderturbo007
08-10-2005, 12:56 PM
Stop being such a pussy. The kids a douche bag.


More so then you.


Wow.... :banhim:

By the way, you don't have a 2001 Eagle Talon....it never existed. I also see that you don't know your zip code and joined this morning.

Take a hike and don't come back. We don't need "know-it-all" dirtballs on this site.

one eyed helmet
08-10-2005, 05:22 PM
NO. you will never run 30psi.

If you are footing the bill for that big of an operation why not build your motor too?


Oh and do you want me to teach you what crankwalk is?

Because you have no understanding of what it is.


You could easily run 35psi but you have to have nitrous. Crankwalk doesnt even affect many cars its totally misunderstood. I think you need to quit being a bitch.

MoozillaGSX
08-10-2005, 07:06 PM
You could easily run 35psi but you have to have nitrous. Crankwalk doesnt even affect many cars its totally misunderstood. I think you need to quit being a bitch.

holy crap!?? what the hell is wrong you??

since your so ***** smart why not tell him WHY you can and cant do things ??

Black97GST
08-10-2005, 11:21 PM
holy crap!?? what the hell is wrong you??

since your so ***** smart why not tell him WHY you can and cant do things ??


Be easy on the newbies that are just trying to help man. he was talking to the guy that got banned (Right Said Fred) he wasnt talking to Black99GST. he was telling the guy that was being a dumba*s. notice the quotes above his message??

scottsee
08-11-2005, 12:26 AM
lol, every once and a while i'm glad i come on here and read these things.

I dont understand why these threads keep poping up. and i don't know why people think crankwalk is a dsm specific problem. 30psi on a tdo6 20g with stock internals with those mods would toast your engine in one WOT 2nd gear pull. have you seen the compressor map for the 20g at 30psi??? My suggestion to you is search the diffrence between PSI and Airflow. and read some of the topics that have been discussed through the years. Or even pickup a Force Induction book or two and learn about this.

Whathits14
08-11-2005, 02:56 AM
....o...m....g...sometimes the things people say make my head want to explode


You dont need nitrous to run 35 psi on stock internals....you need a very very small brain and a big turbo that can push 35psi.

30psi is a LOT on a 20g.

Crankwalk is not a problem with most cars, but with the seven bolt 2g eclipse turbos, its pretty much the biggest problem. Your engine will blow. Stock head gasket will not take 30psi, also way to much stress on the stock studs...you could run 30psi but not for long.

gsxeclipse97
08-11-2005, 07:09 PM
this is one of the harshes threads ive read in a while give the guy a break.

scottsee
08-11-2005, 07:17 PM
lol, every once and a while i'm glad i come on here and read these things.
this is one of the harshes threads ive read in a while give the guy a break.

And yet I'm still following its progress

MoozillaGSX
08-11-2005, 10:29 PM
Be easy on the newbies that are just trying to help man. he was talking to the guy that got banned (Right Said Fred) he wasnt talking to Black99GST. he was telling the guy that was being a dumba*s. notice the quotes above his message??

my bad, i work AM shifts all night long so by the time i get on here im usualy half asleep alreay lol. :licka:

kjewer1
08-12-2005, 05:26 AM
Most poeple dont get over 28 psi on a 2 liter, and it drops a little by redline, 25-26 psi. The turbo is maxed out at this point.

BoostedSpyder
08-12-2005, 05:37 AM
i would love to see a bottle squeezed at 35psi. it would be like a trip to Iraq... BOOOOOM...

you guy's notice that Right Said Fred and One Eyed Helmet kinda seem like the same guy?

just a small observation.

bitch.

Black99GST
08-12-2005, 04:23 PM
ok, thats what i thought, a crazy arguement... someone told me they are running 30 PSI on a 20G, with stock internales, and those basic mods... i was asking for me. so... new guy.... stop bouncing, and take the stick out our a*s hole. everything will be ok... Mr. 2001 Talon...

Talon007
08-12-2005, 08:14 PM
What kind of engine management and logging software do you have?

Black99GST
08-13-2005, 05:14 PM
HAVE?? none, WANT DSMlink... or pocket logger, not to sure about swaping ECU's

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