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07-18-2001, 06:34 PM
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AF Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 37
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what you got your Timing set to?
I am debating the pros and cons of advancing my ignition timing in the hope of gaining some extra power.
I have heard some of you guys advancing as far as 19 degrees.
So what do you consider to be the safe limit?
also what do think are the risks of any engine damage?
lastly what improvement have you noticed?
I guess I would also need to know what grade of fuel you would be using after the change.
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07-18-2001, 06:48 PM
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Diabolical Mod
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Bronx, New York
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I will just say the cons as I'm sure everyone else here will tell you the good stuff. The main one that I will say is that advancing it too much will do damage. Some damage to the tranny. It will always go in forced or just like bang into gear if you drive an automatic. And probably do some damage to the internals.
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07-18-2001, 07:25 PM
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AF Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Oh - thanks for the warning. Perhaps I should have given a bit more detail. I should have added that I drive a UK Primera GT manual 5 speed.
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07-18-2001, 07:37 PM
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AF Enthusiast
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
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My timing is currently set to 19 degrees. I'm guessing you have the SR20 motor in your Primera? I live in Arizona, where the temp can easily hit 110+ on any given day during the middle of summer, and so far I've been detonation free (running 92 octane gas of course). I gained right around 6hp from bumping my timing from 15* to 19* on the dyno last time I was there, all the gains were found from about 4.5K up to about 7K with the advanced timing, it was weird, but a nice increase. If you're already running 92 octane or higher, i'd recommend running 19*, however your motor may react different than mind did, so please be cautious once you advance your timing. I still listen to my motor when it's real hot out (110+) to make sure it's not pinging or knocking.
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95 G20
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Primera (10:1) Intake Cam, HS CAI, HS Header, UR Pullies, 19* Timing, ACT, Lightened Stock Flywheel, GC/AGX, Pacesetter Short Shifter, and more stuff...
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07-18-2001, 07:43 PM
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AF Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2001
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This octane thing. Here in the UK we have a choice of iether 95 or 98. Is this the same scale/measure as the USA - surely we can't have better grade gas than you guys!
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07-18-2001, 07:46 PM
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Diabolical Mod
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Bronx, New York
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Quote:
Originally posted by geoff200
This octane thing. Here in the UK we have a choice of iether 95 or 98. Is this the same scale/measure as the USA - surely we can't have better grade gas than you guys!
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Actually, you guys do have better gas than we do. 
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07-18-2001, 08:00 PM
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AF Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Well if its any concellation I can assure that we pay double for the privilege.
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07-18-2001, 08:03 PM
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Diabolical Mod
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Bronx, New York
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Quote:
Originally posted by geoff200
Well if its any concellation I can assure that we pay double for the privilege.
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Gee thanks! 
I want that higher octane gas man! This country has so many damn regulations it isn't even funny. I believe the highest we have is 94 octane and only a select few of gas stations carry it. Anything above that, we have to buy an octane booster. I think I will leave this country now! :finger: :finger: Not!
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07-19-2001, 04:31 AM
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"P-Man"
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Manawatu
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Quote:
Originally posted by DVSNCYNIKL
I think I will leave this country now! :finger: :finger: Not!
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As long as you dont head to this part of the world i will feel safe..:finger: :finger: :finger:
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07-19-2001, 08:42 AM
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Diabolical Mod
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Bronx, New York
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Quote:
Originally posted by primera man
As long as you dont head to this part of the world i will feel safe..:finger: :finger: :finger:
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This is mainly directed to Primera Man, You will never feel safe!  Muahahahaha!!:finger: :finger:
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07-19-2001, 04:38 PM
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"P-Man"
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Manawatu
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07-19-2001, 11:23 PM
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AF Enthusiast
Join Date: Mar 2001
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I'm in Southern California and my friends have bought higher than 92 octane at a pump station...only gas station I ever heard of selling higher octane is UNOCAL 76...one in pasadena sells 100 Octane but its hella expensive...double the price of 92....Anyways there are also other UNOCAL 76 stations elsewhere that carries it...oh and anything over 100 Octane has lead in it..100 Octane is lead free...laters
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07-20-2001, 01:25 AM
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AF Enthusiast
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 401
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I just dump in 1 bottle (one a half tank) of NOS octane booster for the track and advance to 22* for the track only.
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07-21-2001, 10:53 PM
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AF Enthusiast
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: South Burlington, Vermont
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What cons and pros of timing it to 17 degrees? Seems like 19 can cause some damage, and I dont want to take do something that Im not sure about. Would 17 give you any added performance?
Also...how do you get the timing changed? What kinda of places do that stuff?
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07-22-2001, 12:48 AM
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AF Enthusiast
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 314
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When stock, what is the timing set at??
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