I wouldn't say that it outperforms the Neon in any aspect. Anyone who is familair with an Srt-4 knows that 14.4 on the quarter is a rather slow 1/4 mile time. They average roughly 13.9-14.0 with a good driver. Also you didn't post the 0-100 accelerations. The Srt-4 did it in 13.8 secs while the cobalt SS did it in roughly 15 secs (i think 15.1). Also the track times are almost identical showing very similar handleing characteristics.
Over all though i think the Cobalt SS is a better car. To me it looks ALOT better then meh Srt-4, and i love the cobalts interior. I would Love to Have a blue Cobalt SS with the Black and Blue Leather interior.
fair critique of my post, i actually didnt know alot about the SRT-4 and just recently found out that the one they tested was brand new, and like camaros, the neons tend to get faster as they get some miles on them. Gotta admit though, the handling on the cobalt does have to be a bit better if it ran faster on the road course with less power and more weight.
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wow.... something tells me that this Cobalt will be the new fear of import tuners. ya know, the srt-4 seems to have a japanese style to it, but to me the Cobalt seems to be GM's way of saying that 'this is the NEW breed of muscle'. Maybe it's just the cool blower....lol.
well the ion redline and the cobalt are pretty much the same cars... and i've watched a redline locally that is completely stock and will beat srt-4s from a 40-60 mph roll... you should see the look on the neon owner's face.
about it being the new fear, i'd say so too because that redline sounds like and s/c svt cobra when you wind it out, not to mention it pulls almost as hard. seriously this guy has beat several 5.0 stangs, srt-4s, s/c grand prix (my mom's car w/ me driving, its when i first met the guy), and quite a few imports (actually too many to mention).
its sounds funny a saturn being so awesome, but all i have to say is that if the ss cobalt is just like it, then we have an up and coming 4 banger street king . plus i think those numbers are underrated just like GM has underrated just about everything they put out...
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i agree the SS is a decent car, but after driving a few at the dealership i work i am still more impressed with the srt-4. the srt-4 performance wise has teh cobalt beat after a driving cars numerous times. the cobalt is stil la decnt car minus the huge spokes on the wheels, but the srt has a much bigger and beter aftermarket. do not forget about the turbo vs the supercharger issue. the turbo top end will eat the supercharged cobalt. but if i was to buy 1 of the 2 id get teh SS becuase its chevy and the srt will need a new drivetrain by 70k
I wish you could get the SS without the ricey looking wheels and spoiler. Just a plain Jane car with a fast motor. I think the difference between the Turbo and the S/C engines are the S/C gives you power a little quicker than the turbo. I bet once you get both cars wound up the Neon would be a little faster in the top end. I would consider the SS but the wheels gotta go.
I wish you could get the SS without the ricey looking wheels and spoiler. Just a plain Jane car with a fast motor. I think the difference between the Turbo and the S/C engines are the S/C gives you power a little quicker than the turbo. I bet once you get both cars wound up the Neon would be a little faster in the top end. I would consider the SS but the wheels gotta go.
tell the dealer to swap trunk lids with a stock base model cobalt on the lot, im sure they would do it, or get some person with the same color car to swap trunk lids. and sell the rims and buy some aftermarket ones or something.
well the ion redline and the cobalt are pretty much the same cars... and i've watched a redline locally that is completely stock and will beat srt-4s from a 40-60 mph roll... you should see the look on the neon owner's face.
The Ion will get a bit of a jump on the SRT cuz the SRT is turbo'd and the Ion is belt driven. The SRT people obviously weren't too concerned with lag...they were probably going for bigger hp numbers.
Strange...I read an article in either R&T, Motor Trend or C&D...don't remember exactly, where they compared the SRT-4 to the Redline and the SRT-4 smashed the Redline in everything regarding the engine...0-60, 1/4 mile, HP, TQ, just about everything you can think of. The Ion hung with the SRT-4 in the other areas but they said the SRT-4 was EASILY the winner. The SRT-4 spec you have of 6 sec to 60 is the slowest I've seen for this car. I've driven one and they're pretty mean little bastards...very fun. If the Ion Redline and the SS Cobalt are basically the same, I would put my money on the SRT-4 against the SS Cobalt any day...just my .
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I'd take the Redline over the SS. The quad doors are very useful, I'm used to the center panel enough to drive manual, and the 2005 models will be the last dent resistant cars Saturn will produce.
Aftermarket is in production to help the Redline see high dyno numbers in the future. Watch out for the next set of Saturn Redlines.
The BIGGEST draw back of all 3 in question, the SRT, SS and Redline, is FWD. I HATE FWD. Understeer (real common problem for FWD cars), torque steer and a not great weight distribution (60-40 F-R for the SS, 62-38 for the SRT and 59-41 for the Ion...none of which are "ideal" by any stretch of the imagination)...true sports cars, in my eyes, are RWD.
Found something neat in the process..."The ION, in its non-Red Line garb, is simply one of the most disappointing cars we've ever driven." Ooo...that's brutal...
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The BIGGEST draw back of all 3 in question, the SRT, SS and Redline, is FWD. I HATE FWD. Understeer (real common problem for FWD cars), torque steer and a not great weight distribution (60-40 F-R for the SS, 62-38 for the SRT and 59-41 for the Ion...none of which are "ideal" by any stretch of the imagination)...true sports cars, in my eyes, are RWD.
Found something neat in the process..."The ION, in its non-Red Line garb, is simply one of the most disappointing cars we've ever driven." Ooo...that's brutal...
They screwed with it's performance numbers.
0-60: 6.1-6.3
1/4: 14.5-14.8
Same as the Cobalt SS Supercharged.
Saturn is coming out with the Sky Redline and it's RWD.
I must say that 0-60 in 6 seconds for the Dodge SRT-4 is under-rated. In the April 2004 issue of Car And Driver, the SRT-4 they tested got to 60 in 5.3-seconds - That's Mustang GT/Nissan 350Z territory! Maybe 89IROC was right in saying that it being brand new had something to do with it, you may have to break it in.
From a performance standpoint I would have to go with the Dodge SRT-4 hands down. From a styling standpoint, I have to give it to the Cobalt SS. I love coupes and it's too bad that Dodge discontinued theirs! The Dodge SRT-4 would look sharp with 2-doors!
The BIGGEST draw back of all 3 in question, the SRT, SS and Redline, is FWD. I HATE FWD. Understeer (real common problem for FWD cars), torque steer and a not great weight distribution (60-40 F-R for the SS, 62-38 for the SRT and 59-41 for the Ion...none of which are "ideal" by any stretch of the imagination)...true sports cars, in my eyes, are RWD.
Found something neat in the process..."The ION, in its non-Red Line garb, is simply one of the most disappointing cars we've ever driven." Ooo...that's brutal...
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They screwed with it's performance numbers.
0-60: 6.1-6.3
1/4: 14.5-14.8
Same as the Cobalt SS Supercharged.
Saturn is coming out with the Sky Redline and it's RWD.
The majority of that article is BS. "underrated it at 200 hp and 149 lb-ft of torque. " 149-lb feet of torque?! My stock Cavalier has 150! lol, must be a typo. The 0-60 mph of 7.1 seconds is a joke!
The majority of that article is BS. "underrated it at 200 hp and 149 lb-ft of torque. " 149-lb feet of torque?! My stock Cavalier has 150! lol, must be a typo. The 0-60 mph of 7.1 seconds is a joke!
Seeing that may be the reason the Redline didn't sale very well during 2004. The 05 RL with LSD sould have the same performance numbers as the Cobalt SS Supercharged. They do have the same engine after all.
. plus i think those numbers are underrated just like GM has underrated just about everything they put out...
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