SAS Liberty...

wqbang · 03-25-2002, 05:15 PM

FYI: Sort of on topic since the Liberty is the closest competitor to the Xterra on the market.

http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb...ML/003110.html

Of course Jeep gets all the attention...

TrailReady makes some funky ass bumpers. Some of their bumpers actually look decent, too bad this isn't one of them.

Maddog · 03-25-2002, 05:22 PM

Gotta love that flex but those neon bumpers and wheels look like shit.

Dog

ScottG · 03-26-2002, 12:13 PM

FSRBiker mentioned doing this about a year ago. He was going to swap in a dana 44 from an old Bronco. Has he made any progress?

I have the front dana 44 out of a Scout sitting in my garage, but I don't have the balls to chop up my Xterra.

I read on Voy that the liberty in the picture has a dana 30. I wonder why they didn't use something stronger.

OffroadX · 03-26-2002, 12:25 PM

Keep an eye on http://www.trailready.com/liberty.htm and see what they have to say about using the D30

Brent

Maddog · 03-26-2002, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by ScottG
FSRBiker mentioned doing this about a year ago. He was going to swap in a dana 44 from an old Bronco. Has he made any progress?

I have the front dana 44 out of a Scout sitting in my garage, but I don't have the balls to chop up my Xterra.

Not sure what happened to Todd's plans, but there's a Fronteir owner that hangs out over on the NOR board (http://www.nissanoffroad.net) that picked up front and rear Dana 44s to swap into his truck later this year. He goes by the name of MVM, the same guy that's already welded up a flatbed on his truck. Should be interesting to see how it goes.

Dog

Toy4x4Guy · 03-26-2002, 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by ScottG
FSRBiker mentioned doing this about a year ago. He was going to swap in a dana 44 from an old Bronco. Has he made any progress?

I have the front dana 44 out of a Scout sitting in my garage, but I don't have the balls to chop up my Xterra.

I read on Voy that the liberty in the picture has a dana 30. I wonder why they didn't use something stronger.

There were tons of guys putting SAS on their Tacomas. It should be easier on an Xterra as it doesn't have the rack and pinion steering the Tacoma does. The steering was the biggest challenge. I'd say about 10% of the club I was in had gone SAS, one guy just did it on a 2001 Tacoma Double Cab and went coil over!

ScottG · 03-26-2002, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by OffroadX
Keep an eye on http://www.trailready.com/liberty.htm and see what they have to say about using the D30

Brent

I have read recently that the newer Dana 30s can be built up to be pretty strong. I have a 79 CJ with the older Dana 30. I have never heard or read anything good about my axle. The magazines say that it is not even worth upgrading it with a locker or gears because it is so weak. That being said, I haven't had any trouble with mine.

I bought the Scout Dana 44s for the Jeep, but they are probably about the right width for an Xterra. The front axle's pumkin is on the passenger side which I think is what you would need for an Xterra, but I can't remember for sure.

I don't think I would swap our rear axle. It is probably stronger than a Dana 44. However, you would have more locker choices with the Dana 44.

ScottG · 03-26-2002, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by ScottG

The front axle's pumkin is on the passenger side which I think is what you would need for an Xterra, but I can't remember for sure.

I just looked under the X, and it looks like the pumkin is closer to the driver's side so I don't think a Scout axle would work.

Toy4x4Guy · 03-26-2002, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by ScottG

I just looked under the X, and it looks like the pumkin is closer to the driver's side so I don't think a Scout axle would work.

Jeep Wagoneer axles are what everyone was using on the Taco. The Taco diff is on the driver's side.

ScottG · 03-26-2002, 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by Toy4x4Guy

I'd say about 10% of the club I was in had gone SAS, one guy just did it on a 2001 Tacoma Double Cab and went coil over!

It seems a little crazy to do that to a new vehicle. I'm considering it for the day my Xterra is no longer a daily driver. I would like to see someone else do it though. In fact, I wish someone else would go SAS and then post instructions for the rest of us.

Toy4x4Guy · 03-26-2002, 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by ScottG

It seems a little crazy to do that to a new vehicle. I'm considering it for the day my Xterra is no longer a daily driver. I would like to see someone else do it though. In fact, I wish someone else would go SAS and then post instructions for the rest of us.

Yeah, alot of those Tacoma guys are pretty extreme. I would never do anything like that to a daily driver. Most of these guys are even still making payments on these vehicles as well. I admire them though, brass balls that's for sure. One took a ton of pictures of him torching off the IFS and grinding down the welds.

Some have gone all out with full exo cage, marlin dual t-cases, SAS, etc on vehicles as new a 1998 models.

Here are some links:

http://128.83.80.200/taco/ (this one's really wild)

http://www.azttora.com/tacomasas4.html

ScottG · 03-26-2002, 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by Toy4x4Guy

Jeep Wagoneer axles are what everyone was using on the Taco. The Taco diff is on the driver's side.

Maybe a 1985 Toyota 4Runner axle could be used (I think they went IFS in 86'). Have you seen the All Pro Offroad website? That guy takes Toyota axles and puts Dana 60 knuckles on them. That is pretty cool, if you ask me.

Toy4x4Guy · 03-26-2002, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by ScottG

Maybe a 1985 Toyota 4Runner axle could be used (I think they went IFS in 86'). Have you seen the All Pro Offroad website? That guy takes Toyota axles and puts Dana 60 knuckles on them. That is pretty cool, if you ask me.

Toyota axles have the diff on the passengers side, they won't work on the Xterra without a xfer case change out. You're correct that 1985 was the last year of the solid axle Toyotas.

Have any of you guys looked into Nissan Patrol axles? Maybe they will work on the Xterra.

wqbang · 03-26-2002, 04:56 PM

Patrols use the H233B up front.... That would make a FINE front axle. Nissan axles are very strong, they just don't put them in the front where they belong

I believe the Patrol axles have the pumpkin on the passenger side though

http://communities.msn.com/NissanPat...TOID=22%20File

Sweet!

Maddog · 03-26-2002, 05:25 PM

Not sure on this, but I think that the early Ford Bronco has a front axle that could work. I think the pumpkin is on the driver's side and the track is close.

Dog

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