02-27-2005, 12:58 PM
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sanding
has any-1 actually sanded their s-10 how long does it take--i've sanded my s-10 its a 1989 and its single cab and long bed--ive been working on it for 2 months and im only done with the cab-does anybody know a best "tool" to use to sand im using a palm sander and it sucks-been through 50 pads or so-i wanna try and get it done before spring break-which is like 3 or 4 weeks from now
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02-27-2005, 01:17 PM
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Re: sanding
Try google.com to find out information.
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02-27-2005, 03:13 PM
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Re: sanding
use a palm sander, electric, or a pnumatic disk sander, just remember, the pnumatic sander will take you to bare metal, which if you want thats what i reccomend, if you want to go down to primer or are looken to rough up the surface, use a palm sander and some sand papper on a sanding block (2x4 with sand papper wrapped around it) two months seams like an awfully long time, is it just a weekend project your putting together?
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02-27-2005, 03:31 PM
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Re: sanding
It would be best it you had(or have)a air compresser.That way you could use a DA sander which is by far faster than hand block or electric palm sander.Just be careful with a DA,as in don't get close to glass or moldings.Also try to save if possible the factory primer.I don't know how in depth your getting with your paint job,but you can use a gray 3M scuff pad with some scuffing gel(or Ajax or Comet)to scuff up the paint (make it dull)so new paint can stick.This way is alot quicker but doesn't take care of scratches or chips or rust.
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02-27-2005, 03:42 PM
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Re: sanding
the best thing to do if you want to get bare mettal is to buy or rent a sand blaster and go to town
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02-27-2005, 03:45 PM
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Re: Re: sanding
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Originally Posted by dmbrisket 51
the best thing to do if you want to get bare mettal is to buy or rent a sand blaster and go to town
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Good idea for spot rust repairs.Do not blast whole panels though!!!!!!!!Sand blasting will warp the sheet metal and you will have a mess.
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02-27-2005, 05:50 PM
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Re: sanding
i am using a palm sander but ive never heard of a pnumatic disk sander---can i buy that anywhere if so how much and i have a air compressor but its one of the ones you plug in and i dont have any air tools
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02-27-2005, 06:30 PM
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Re: Re: sanding
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Originally Posted by lowriderfan187
i am using a palm sander but ive never heard of a pnumatic disk sander---can i buy that anywhere if so how much and i have a air compressor but its one of the ones you plug in and i dont have any air tools
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You can buy a da sander at NAPA,ebay,etc.What do you mean you have a air compresser but it's one of those that you plug in?
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02-27-2005, 06:55 PM
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Re: sanding
im assumeing he means its a portable/smaller one, not a 220 floor standing one, you will need atleast 50 lbs of pressure to run air tools, atleast i reccomend it, get them off like movin2 said, e bay, nappa, you could also go higher quality with huskey equipment from home depo or you could go to lows, places like that, like movin2 said you dont want to sb a whole vehical, you will wind up with waves in it
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02-27-2005, 08:05 PM
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Re: sanding
movin2 I value your knowledge of bodywork but with my hotrods if I didn't use a small sandblaster I'd never get done, even with my da sander.
Although I do agree that if you hold a sand blaster in 1 place it'll warp any steel. I wouldn't let anyone that I didn't trust to go anywhere near my cars with a sand blaster.
probably the easiest way for most people without air tools is just buy some aircraft paint remover, and the job will be done in no time.
Just find out where you can legaly dump the waste first.
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02-27-2005, 08:26 PM
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Re: Re: sanding
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Originally Posted by OverBoardProject
movin2 I value your knowledge of bodywork but with my hotrods if I didn't use a small sandblaster I'd never get done, even with my da sander.
Although I do agree that if you hold a sand blaster in 1 place it'll warp any steel. I wouldn't let anyone that I didn't trust to go anywhere near my cars with a sand blaster.
probably the easiest way for most people without air tools is just buy some aircraft paint remover, and the job will be done in no time.
Just find out where you can legaly dump the waste first.
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I assume that you mean that you use your blaster for tight spots(door jambs,window channels,etc.) and small surface areas,which is fine and safe.I seen a guy take a deck lid(older car 50s era)and he had it sandblasted.He brought it in to us to paint it.Everything was clean and dandy untill we looked at the outside of the deck.The sandblaster dented the skin.You could see where the braces were underneath,thats how bad it was.If would've taken 2 gallon of mud to fix it up,needless to say we didn't do it.The boss wanted no part in it.I agree with you on the paint stripper.That stuff can save time and makes no heat(won't warp).Just if you use that make sure to tape edges off,a safe barrier so to speak.This way you won't have stripper running down behind windows or jambs and what not.
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02-27-2005, 08:58 PM
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Re: sanding
I wish that there was a place close by my house where I could just get my auto's dipped.
Although I understand that if you go to the wrong shop they might not neutrolize the chemicals right which could blead through later.
At least all the rust and paint should be completely removed.
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02-27-2005, 09:29 PM
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AF Newbie
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Re: sanding
yea it is a portable compressor and i have well over 50 psi but still no power tools and i agree with (OverBoardProject) that wish there was a place to dip my vehicle in or hell even sand it and do the body work 4 me
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02-27-2005, 09:36 PM
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Re: sanding
sorry to say this guy, but you need at-least 90psi with most air tools. Plus you need some sort of holding tank for anything to work right.
walmart has a colman compressor with a few cheap air tools. I upgraded all my tools but for the $400.cnd it's all that most people need. You'll thank yourself later and wonder how you lived without air tools.
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02-28-2005, 07:33 AM
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Re: sanding
Anything less than a 50 gallon compressor is useless for anything, especially painting. Painting should use at least 100 gallon or better
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