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Apexi Power Intake for 95-98 Nissan 240SX or 91-95 Toyota MR2 Turbo (507-T007)


orestes
02-20-2005, 04:07 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7954971267&category=38634

I've always seen this A'PEXi air filter and ive always wondered if it can possibly be worth the $125+ it costs, for just the filter.

It Says,
The dual funnel Power Intake evolved from the highly successful Super Intake. Subtle refinements in the design and filter element resulted in a 10% reduction in pressure drop. Utilizing an upper and lower funnel, the Power Intake reduces air turbulence within the filter and creates smooth air flow into the throttle body. The Power Intake is a maintenance-free dry-type air filter and will alleviate the problem of filter oil from "wet" air cleaners interfering with the air-flow meter.

I mean yeah they make it sound good and i love A'PEXi as a brand, but i would feel stupid shelling out the cash for this i think...better to just go with normal K&N? And yes, i would get minor satisfaction of just the name on it. but still, $150?? Anybody have advice?

logik23
02-20-2005, 10:51 AM
I don't think the gains would be all that great since it's the stock piping....

xcusememisswyn
02-20-2005, 01:09 PM
probably not much change in comparison to k&n...



the seller is good tho, i bought my intake from him and it came quick and clean with out any problems

logik23
02-20-2005, 01:24 PM
This from a guy who has "Free iPods" in his sig?

orestes
02-20-2005, 02:34 PM
what if you use it on a CAI instead of stock (what i would be doing) sorry forgot to say that

logik23
02-20-2005, 03:00 PM
Yeah, I've only heard good of the Power Intake.

D-Bo
02-21-2005, 12:17 PM
probably not much change in comparison to k&n...



the seller is good tho, i bought my intake from him and it came quick and clean with out any problems

this is actually true.. good seller, bought my suspension from them. and i'd want to take a look inside this filter to see how it works.. it its turbine-shaped and you use aftermarket piping then to me it seems like it would flow air very efficiently

alphalanos
02-21-2005, 12:18 PM
just put a K&N cone filter on som new intake tubing.

D-Bo
02-21-2005, 12:48 PM
that wouldn't hurt either but its good to experiment. you learn from your mistakes.. so do we

monooxide
02-21-2005, 01:55 PM
I WILL NEVER BUY FROM K&N! Thats the most ghetto gay brand ive ever heard of...if I bought a non-Injen filter it would be Apexis or that awesome one buy Blitz. I know my reasons may be stupid on why i hate K&N but....a filter that loses horsepower come on?

logik23
02-21-2005, 02:49 PM
I WILL NEVER BUY FROM K&N! Thats the most ghetto gay brand ive ever heard of...if I bought a non-Injen filter it would be Apexis or that awesome one buy Blitz. I know my reasons may be stupid on why i hate K&N but....a filter that loses horsepower come on?

Even though I don't have much to base myself on, I'm with monooxide on this one.

monooxide
02-21-2005, 05:06 PM
I figured it would be everyone yelling at me to stop being gay...but thanks Logic

D-Bo
02-21-2005, 06:04 PM
i don't think thats a very good point, personally.. how many horses are you losing with a filter??
not significant enough for me..

monooxide
02-21-2005, 06:45 PM
Im just saying any filter thats supposed to be "better" then stock should at least post better Air Flow graphs(CFM) not less and lose horsepower?

orestes
02-21-2005, 06:56 PM
yeah i think imma buy it.

nissanfanatic
02-21-2005, 08:14 PM
Since when do people lose HP with a K&N filter? I don't want to hear IT's dyno reports. Dynos can vary a lot in three different pulls on the same exact car, same time, same everything.

Air filters are kinda like spark plugs, the only way you will feel a gain is if you had a problem with the previous one. What I'm saying is if you aren't flowing a lot of air, then you can't have too much restriction. An air filter will make a difference when you make a lot of power. But everyday driving, don't count on it.

I would do an exhaust before anything after my expiriences. Intake and Header doesn't do shit until you get something other than that drinking straw nissan calls an exhaust.

orestes
02-21-2005, 08:27 PM
yeah i have exhaust i just need a filter for my intake thats coming soon. and i just basically really love apex.

yeah and wtf is that documented that k&n loses hp?? thats like the #1 air filter ppl buy...has been for years. im confused.

monooxide
02-21-2005, 10:03 PM
Import Tuner did a Intake shoot out and the drop in KandN filter lost .1 horsepower? i mean it restricted airflow

Chuki_breath
02-21-2005, 10:10 PM
omg dude .1, as in point one of a horsepower. THats like you losing 1 single strand of hair. you wont even notice it. Its not like your going to lose a 1/10 of a second because of that .1 hp loss. But all in all i do see the argument lol. It does sound stupid.

logik23
02-21-2005, 10:11 PM
Dude, a K&N drop-in is fucking 75$, I hope you gain hp for that kind of money, .1 isn't alot, but when you consider this is a 75$ high performance filter, it's pretty gay.

monooxide
02-21-2005, 10:21 PM
It doesnt make .1 it loses .1

JekylandHyde
02-22-2005, 10:51 AM
There is a big difference between a "K&N Drop In Filter" and a K&N cone.

I am highly partial to K&N filters, so much so that I use three of them:
http://www.jekylhyderacing.com/images/hyde_kns1.jpg

Sometimes, you just need one big enough for your needs:
http://www.jekylhyderacing.com/images/hyde_kn.jpg

D-Bo
02-22-2005, 12:39 PM
i have the exact same one, same size.. sounds amazing.. anyways, k&n did a lot of work on making sure the filter did the other half of its job too: only letting clean air into the engine. the .1 loss of hp will probably not affect anyone here, so the argument that it restricts air is pretty much irrelevant. its not restricting enough air to make a difference. even then, it still flows more than a lot of other filters do. don't think its plugging the intake or anything.. wait for march to come and i'll get a sound clip of my car. stock exhaust and intake like the one up there ^

nissanfanatic
02-22-2005, 05:02 PM
The base dyno run could have been a very good run or something. I mean if you look at when people run thier cars, stock or modified, all the runs vary. Some a little, some quite a bit. So just ignore your IT magazine and trust what real racers use.

Actually want some proof K&N kits are worth a shit? My dad ran his camaro without any kind of filter at the track. He ran an 11.1@IDK MPH. He put his K&N filter back on(I believe its a tunnel ram kit) and was running 10.8s again. Tell me that K&N is full of shit.

Filters aren't just there to clean air. They also make the air coming in more or less turbulent depending on how well the filter or kit is designed. So restriction isn't the only issue when buying a filter or a kit.

And as far as paying $70(which I assume is canadian dollars), did you know that K&N filters are guarunteed for one million miles? I think the filter will pay for itself even with buying recharger kits.

orestes
02-22-2005, 05:35 PM
and as far as the "dry" filter style and the K&N oiled style, a mechanic friend did tell me that the oil can coat the MAFS so it doesnt work properly, but i know tons of people w/ K&N that have never had a problem. but i dunno maybe it is one of those things where it slowly makes it less effective. but i just love apex so much that i kinda want to buy it, i guess it depends on how cheap i can find a K&N.

nissanfanatic
02-22-2005, 08:27 PM
E-Bay it. Those things are super cheap on ebay. And do a custom intake. It would probably be the most cost effective part on your car for a while.

K&N's oil may coat up the MAFS, but it hasn't happened to me yet. And cleaning it takes like 5 minutes.

I like the Apex-i design, but I can't see me paying $100 for it.

D-Bo
02-23-2005, 12:53 AM
nissanfanatic, what kind of piping would you use for a custom intake?

nissanfanatic
02-23-2005, 06:08 PM
In a perfect world, something very close to the size of the MAFS in mandrel bent SS piping. I would order some from www.atpturbo.com . In my world, PVC or some cheap metal piping from ACE hardware. I would probably relocate the battery and run the piping right over to that area. Use a K&N cone filter too.

D-Bo
02-23-2005, 08:15 PM
having said that, i know the z32 mafs is 80mm (about 3.14").. will the adapter kit from www.jspec.com fit with say 3" piping? or should i go 3.5"?
i'm guessing since my intake needs to be redone anyways, i might as well do it while i have the time..
so if i get about 4 feet of piping from atpturbo and have it bent to shape i'm guessing that would work?!?
any thoughts?

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