joeyfromwpg

Okay i own a 97 cavy 2.4 L and I'm planning to buy the AEM short ram intake for it.. A budy of mine said i should look into buying an Arrid Throttle body spacer.. I know a Throttle body spacer increases HP in SUV's and other vehicals with high hp output but the question i have is will A throttle body spacer make a big difference in my 2.4 L? If so how much HP and Tq? Is it worth the 100 bucks?

Thanks for your input..

noshun

I wouldn't say so due to the design of the intake manifold. It's always worth looking for evidence of a gain but they do tend to work on V engines that don't have a long intek plenum. Otherwise the Vortex will be disturbed by the sharp angles in the intake manifold. You are more likey to just adversely affect you throttle response!

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badron

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intek plenum. Otherwise the Vortex will be disturbed by the sharp angles in the intake manifold.
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Thank noshun, But what's that in english.

noshun

Sorry that should be intake plenum! Basically the air is spun into a mini cyclone and the idea is that will spin the fuel into it but due to the sharp baneds the air passes to get to the intake valve it would basically stop the cycloe effect. Also where fuel is injected into the mainfold it collects on top of the closed valve for a millisecond before the valve opens and sucks in the air, well at full throttle anyway when the injector kick in the tiny fraction of a second sooner to prevent a lean condition. So the air will not be causing any better mixing or extra fuel. The idea works a little with carbs but it would only really work on top of the carb where it can spin the airflow meaning that it will travel as fast down but also swirling aswell so it will pass the venturi at a higher speed sucking more fuel through! But the usually go below and it supposedly mixes it better but it doesn't really. Quick summary! Waste of money! also the fan type things, what are they called, Turbonator or something these more impede airflow than improve it in a similar way to the electric supercharger things on e-bay. Not to be confused with the electric supercharger Jackson McKnight are engineering right now! And not to be called an electric turbo as turbo gets it's name fro tubine which is always driven by a gas or liquid and not an electric motor from someone mom's old hair dryer!

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-Jayson-

a TB spacer will do nothing for you, its junk. The only thing they are good for on our cars is if your using N02 and need a good place to put your nozzle.

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badron

100 bucks for that thing. The best I have ever head of was 8 HP. Lets see carry the 0 and that's $12.50 per HP. You can do better easy.

big dude1

lol we have a mathematician in our midsts!!! lol

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noshun

$12.50 hp per dollar would be a good investment! But tiu won't produce that so will be more like $100 for 0hp and adversely affected throttle response as the air has to travel that extra inch before getting to the cylinder! So $100 + 1 hour to fit properly = a waste of time and money!

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Classicrocjunkie

Another topic that has been full covered from front to back before i could post.

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noshun

Does that mean you curse the day I happened upon AF and pissed off 92cavi4dr cos i told him he was wrong about BOVs controlling boost! He forgave me though!

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big dude1

lol we should have a contest to see who the most intelligent cavy dude is... crj, noshun, jayson, myself, kustmace, and all the other regulars

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noshun

what type of intelligence! I have 2 1/2 English College A Level degree's in Physics, Math and Design Technology and 2 Mensa challenge certificates!

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inarifennec

What's with the electric superchargers anyways I've heard of em but never really considered one.

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noshun

The ones on E-bay are completyely different fomr the Jackson McKnight system that is a PROPER Supercharger powered by an Electric motor, only it discharges it's aux battery in no time whatsoever so
it can only be used like nitrous, i.e. for short blasts only although they are working with capacitors in order to get it to run better!

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Classicrocjunkie

We all have our knowledge in certain area's. Calling out one of us more knowledgeable than another is assinine. All of us put together make it a great place for information and a very interesting sick humor at times too.

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