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blakscorpion21
01-27-2005, 05:06 PM
aqnyone what is the best kind of plug wires? what about omnispark are they any good. also does a thicker wire mean its better.

Brian R.
01-27-2005, 05:10 PM
IMO best wires are Toyota OEM wires

nialusa
01-27-2005, 05:53 PM
I agree, for the money, Toyota`s plug leads are suprizingly good, things only start to get better when you start spending megga $$$

blakscorpion21
01-27-2005, 07:11 PM
what about omnispark are they good or do they suck

nialusa
01-27-2005, 07:16 PM
Omnispark.....Never heard of them!
The only plug leads I have ever been recomended is Magnecore (crappy spelling).
If they are cheap avoid them like the plague cause they will only hinder your engine.
Omnispark sound like theyve come from a Robocop movie to me!!!!!
I must add, that the amount of plug leads I`ve trashed when tuning up cars is unbelievable, many so called "performance" leads are not worth the packaging they come in and have a higher resistance than the Standard leads.
If there is nothing wrong with your Toyota leads then leave them on cause for a standard lead they realy are very good, spend your cash on something else.
If you absolutely have to change them then go for Magnecore, the thickest one I would get would be the 8.5mm, the 9mm ones are just too much for standard`ish engines and are often very difficult to fit on to the standard dizzy cap. for a cheapish option bosch are OK but only on a parr with the toyota ones.

blakscorpion21
01-28-2005, 07:07 PM
omnispark are the onesn the store reccomended ialso got some iridium spark plugs im going 2 get some stuff offline in alittle while thanks 4 the help

91 Celica St
01-29-2005, 01:20 PM
mine is set up with iridiumn plugs and nology hot wires....i dont run my hotwires when i drive around tho i use just regular ones from kragen... they were expensive and ima wait to use them till the gze goes in....i do occasinally put em in when i streetrace or do stupid shit but damn at $150 a pop it can get expensive

Brian R.
01-29-2005, 10:38 PM
You can spend any amount you want, but your car will not run any better than it will with Toyota wires. Why experiment? - unless you like giving away money.

91 Celica St
01-31-2005, 11:23 AM
not true...find out many ohms of resistance are in the wire...normal OEM wies have 500 ohm of resistance per foot, nology hot wires have 40 ohms per foot, find out how many the toyota wires have...and if they beat nology buy them, if not, buy them anyway and tell me how many they are so i can laugh at you brian

blakscorpion21
01-31-2005, 06:26 PM
the ones i bougt dont say how much resistance they have but they say they exceed the origional wires performance ill probably get some nology later but i dont need them that much right now

91 Celica St
02-01-2005, 12:39 AM
toyota wires may be good but ther not the best... but yeah nology is a little over kill unless you plan on upping your whole ignition system

nialusa
02-01-2005, 03:51 AM
I wouldnt touch Nology Hotwires with a barge pole.

a. Every car tuner I talk to says they are a complete waist of time and I have never seen a pro built performance car with them on.

b. Barge poles dont need ignition leads.

Unless you have made some fueling adjustments where the engine will require you to ignite more fuel just use Toyota ones, they are better than most other car manufacturers. If you just want pretty colours under the Hood, buy some Bosch ignition leads. If you want to upgrade other performance parts later, go for magnecore. I have seen lots of Rally teams use these on their cars so they must be good and they are not quite as expensive as the Hotwires and alot more reliable.

91 Celica St
02-01-2005, 01:32 PM
look at my post above, there not gunna do much unless you up your ignition system, but the bad thign about them is at a 150 price tag they only last a good 15,000 miles

nialusa
02-01-2005, 08:11 PM
Already looked at your post, my opinion is just that, only an opinion. Feel free to prove me wrong.

Brian R.
02-02-2005, 02:07 AM
toyota wires may be good but ther not the best... but yeah nology is a little over kill unless you plan on upping your whole ignition system

Toyota (who knows your car better than anyone) says your wires are acceptable if their resistance is less than 25,000 ohms. Now tell me there is a difference between 100- and 200- ohm wires. I won't believe you.

OEM wires don't have to be the best - meaning lowest resistance. If you can't tell the difference in performance, they are equal in quality because performance is what matters, not resistance. If there is no difference in performance, then lowest price makes them the best. Selling a low-resistance wire is marketing, not performance. Anything beyond that necessary to fire the charge reliably is overkill and a waste of energy.

91 Celica St
02-02-2005, 11:33 AM
i still stand by that scertain Aem plug wires are better than OEM....ive seen/felt adiffrence with AEM over oem....

Brian R.
02-02-2005, 05:01 PM
i still stand by that scertain Aem plug wires are better than OEM....ive seen/felt adiffrence with AEM over oem....

If you haven't measured the difference on a dyno, I'm not interested in your feelings.

91 Celica St
02-03-2005, 02:33 PM
ha ur gay and nor am i to yours if urs havnt been measured either...talk to poeple that race for a living...i have 2 chvys on my block that are over 400 WHP, a 71 chevell that runs 12's and a guy with a novea that dips into 9's

both of them would tell you to shut the fuck up, if you told them theyd get a better spark from the OEM wires from their 454 and 350's wires that ud get from kragen, to the ones they use with their msd igntions they smack you in the face and tell you to know what ur talking about be4 u speak

Brian R.
02-03-2005, 05:27 PM
End of discussion with you

91 Celica St
02-03-2005, 05:28 PM
because u know ur wrong, ask any harcore automotive enthusiest that all spark plug wires are not the same, not only do plug leads and resistance amtter but size and material there made out of matters as well

EclipseRST
02-03-2005, 05:29 PM
ha ur gay and nor am i to yours if urs havnt been measured either...talk to poeple that race for a living...i have 2 chvys on my block that are over 400 WHP, a 71 chevell that runs 12's and a guy with a novea that dips into 9's

both of them would tell you to shut the fuck up, if you told them theyd get a better spark from the OEM wires from their 454 and 350's wires that ud get from kragen, to the ones they use with their msd igntions they smack you in the face and tell you to know what ur talking about be4 u speak

That was not needed... This is your first and final warning, post with respect, doesnt matter if you agree with him or not! We are not here to insult eachother nor to cause E-Fights! :rolleyes:

91 Celica St
02-04-2005, 02:03 AM
for sure my master moderature guy...gotta set these kids straight somehow


sry
-Bud

Brian R.
02-04-2005, 09:21 AM
You didn't set anyone straight - and I'm not a kid.

91 Celica St
02-04-2005, 11:32 AM
or you could not give people taht ask a legit question false answers...go back to the forum you cam from, gain some knowledge and come back then have a debate with me once you can back up the stuff you want

i really dont see how u say you get the SAME spark from an oem wire than an msd wire....


thats like saying oem headers are better than AEM headers because...dosent toyota know your car the best?

Brian R.
02-04-2005, 12:46 PM
I never said any of that. I will spell it out for you:

1. Of course there's a difference in the wire. The difference is in factors that don't necessarily matter to performance.

2. If you can't see the difference in a dyno, it isn't important enough to spend extra money on it for performance sake. If you want longer-lasting wires, then that is a different issue.

3. If you can see it in a dyno, then someone would have done it for marketing.

4. If someone has done it, then show me. If you can't show me, it doesn't exist.

If that is not clear enough, then too bad. This is not your forum to tell me what to do.

91 Celica St
02-04-2005, 12:50 PM
simple...goto msdignition.com and check it out, itll set u straight

Brian R.
02-04-2005, 12:52 PM
Just tell me where the dyno results are from an independent test site or give up.

"4. If someone has done it, then show me. If you can't show me, it doesn't exist."

Swigz
02-04-2005, 02:58 PM
I believe there was a moderator already in here asking that this thread be set straight. This is now done. If you two would like to continue, do it via PM.

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