| Initial D Japanese Cartoon Racing, Drifting and more. |
01-14-2005, 02:57 AM
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FF Drifting w/ out handbrake
OK, so after watching far too much Initial D, playing far too much Maximum Tune and NFS Underground 2, and spending far too much money on making my Lumina LTZ faster and better performing, I'd like to know how to drift an FF car. My biggest problem? She's got no hand brake, and she's got a shitomatic tranny (Oh, sorry, I meant automatic.) Can someone give me some advice on drifting for a beginner such as myself? Much obliged!
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01-15-2005, 12:56 AM
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Re: FF Drifting w/ out handbrake
Go very very very fast, cut left, and cut right, hold on.
Otherwise, its not happening.
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01-16-2005, 06:05 PM
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Re: FF Drifting w/ out handbrake
FF's cant drift...ID tricked you all! hahaha! Seriously though FF's cant drift. They just powerslide all sideways.
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01-27-2005, 08:43 PM
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Re: FF Drifting w/ out handbrake
why the heck not? call me an idiot but whats the difference between a drift and a powerslide?
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01-28-2005, 09:36 PM
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Re: FF Drifting w/ out handbrake
With a drift you don't lose speed because it's all about taking a corner at a constant speed.
Dunno what to say about an FF without an E-Brake except that the car is unsafe. How do you park it on a hill? "Park" gear alone isn't enough, you know.
I guess all you can do is go out on a rainy/icy day and force a weight shift in the car by steering hard left-right-left or vice-versa on the corners to "drift". That's what I did with the Jetta when the streets were iced over.
Now my new RX-7, on the other hand, can drift very easily with that FR drivetrain...
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01-29-2005, 12:21 PM
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Re: FF Drifting w/ out handbrake
when he says without handbrake i think he probably means the kind of handbrake you actually use your hand on. most likely in his auto car its the footbrake style where u push the pedal in and release with the lever.
even if he did have the handbrake tho i dont see what use it would be drifting because hittin that on a turn will just want to lock out your back wheels and braking it basically.
and for difference between drift and powerslide...powerslide is basiacally just oversteer and you dont have complete control over your car. drifting is getting your rear wheels spinning at such a rate you almost float around the corner and you get your car turned sideways because you're trying to control this.
drifting in a ff is just a likely as drifting in my impreza...aint gonna happen mate, just enjoy driving it for what it is and putting it through its paces.
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01-30-2005, 02:10 AM
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Re: FF Drifting w/ out handbrake
depends on what you mean by drift. If you want to do a drift like Tsuchiya and Immamura, its not happening, but you can put any vehicle with 4 wheels into a 4 wheel drift, you just hav to know how to do so. Get a different car mang.
this should be in the drifting forum btw.
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01-30-2005, 07:53 PM
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Re: FF Drifting w/ out handbrake
It should be in the drifting forum.
Oh my god, you have the "Release" hand brake? I haven't seen one of those in ages! God, those things are so goddamn annoying to disengage...
Er, with something like that you'll just have to go as extreme as possible to "drift" it. That or you could just trade for a car with the better e-brake assembly.
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02-01-2005, 12:31 AM
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Re: FF Drifting w/ out handbrake
Drift is a controlled slide. Powerslide is using the cars power to spin the wheels and get the car sideways. There is such a thing as a powerslide drift. And there is such a way to drift a FF without the ebrake, its called left-foot braking. I will admit a FF cannot do a drift as extreme as a FR, but it can do a high speed drift. I know I have done it in my 1.5L Civic. I don't wish to start any arguements, if you do not agree with me, thats fine I won't argue. But for the others try and research it some more other than on forums.
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02-01-2005, 12:42 PM
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Re: FF Drifting w/ out handbrake
Man, I completely forgot about left foot braking! Damn it all, I actually screwed up for once in my pathetic life...
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02-01-2005, 05:28 PM
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Thats not the normal response I get from that, but atleast you know about it and admit shit like that. Most people will just start trying to flame me for it.
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02-01-2005, 05:48 PM
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Re: FF Drifting w/ out handbrake
About the only newer vehicles i have seen that have foot pakring brakes are trucks. manual trucks at that. auto's even have handbrakes. ie my parents traiblazer, grandpa's 2500HD.
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02-02-2005, 12:02 AM
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Re: FF Drifting w/ out handbrake
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Originally Posted by Tony
Thats not the normal response I get from that, but atleast you know about it and admit shit like that. Most people will just start trying to flame me for it.
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Well, I'm not like most people. I can be a real dumbass sometimes.
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Originally Posted by CBFryman
About the only newer vehicles i have seen that have foot pakring brakes are trucks.
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Yeah, brother has (had? not sure about his social life) a friend with a newer truck, and it had a foot e-brake where the clutch should be. He used it to slide down the 260-degree twisting hill down to our house.
My friend Dave has a '91 Ranger, and the e-brake is a little handle under the steering column that you have to pull out to engage, and you gotta press the brake down real hard to disengage the little bastard.
I don't drive any car unless the e-brake is in the middle where it should be!
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02-02-2005, 04:41 PM
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FF drifting can be done, ok maybe you don't call it the saemthing but it can be done. This is done not with the e-brake, and not with left foot braking either, although you could use your left foot to do what your right foot does. You simply slam on the brakes without locking them up, turn left-right-left in quick succession and you have a ff drift. Here's one I accidentally pulled at a local autox. I'll have to mae a video of this for all of the non believers out there but thats going to have to wait until the snow goes away.
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02-02-2005, 05:55 PM
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Re: FF Drifting w/ out handbrake
I don't need a video. I know it's possible using that method already.
Nice car, by the way.
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