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There's a pretty big difference in price... will I notice much of a difference between the two brands?

wont notice much of a difference with either one. . .

i'd go with the weapon R all your paying for is the name brand.

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Same guys who made my intake. I only paid 100 bucks for an intake same quality as an AEM or Injen.

mine..
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Thanks for the replies guys. I figure I'll go with Weapon R, since it seems like a reputable brand. Anyone heard any bad things about them?

Also, should I pay 50 bucks more and get this Weapon R? Or will there be no difference?

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wont notice much of a difference with either one. . .

Is that your cavalier in the sig? Are those Ricochet wheels? If so, we have the same wheels :-D

If your going for price than i would suggest going on ebay and getting a Bomz system... i think thats the brand anyways :) they sell like 25 bucks plus shipping for a short ram intake

I wouldn't imagine a $25.00 intake to be a very good option...

I wouldn't imagine a $25.00 intake to be a very good option...

thats what i got....like i said b4, ur just payin for the name of the brand

How hard is it to install? Will I need to take it to a mechanic or can I do it myself? What tools would I need?

you can do it yourself. Are you gettin the CAI or WAI?.. You need to dissconnet the battery and remove it. There is a bolt that holds in in place so you need to remove that. Next you need to remove the black air box.. should be 2 bolts inside and in the bottom remove those 2, next you just have to work that out. Dissconnect that throttle body cover black thing and remove with the rubber hose. If you doing the CAI, you need to remove the tire and fender wall liner. Next you need to remove the Bong from the lower part of the old intake.. Not 100% sure what holds that in but just as basic as the top part. remove all old parts and start with the install. If you have a manual tranny, you need to also purchase the clutch resovoir mount.

After reading that, I've come to the conclusion I can't do it myself.

About how much would a mechanic charge to install?

lol its not THAT hard... its like a 30 minute job at the most :)

It took me an hour to change my light bulbs. That's the extent of my mechanical experience thus far.

What other modifications can I make after I do this intake that would show some small gains in hp/torque, I was thinking about one of those engine mount thingies, and some ignition wires. How much would that boost me?

I always wanted to try one of those electric superchargers... they cost like 70 bucks and give like 40 hp... you can get it and tell me how it does :)

Haha no thanks, that's okay.

upper and lower engine mounts will help. go to carcustoms.com and you can get them for $65 shipped. A cat back exhaust and header will help also

upper and lower engine mounts will help. go to carcustoms.com and you can get them for $65 shipped. A cat back exhaust and header will help also

Actual;ly the header will give better top end hp but you may lose a little toque. You need back pressure for torque and the header is immediate to the combustion chamber so you are likely to lose torque and you probably wont notice any extra power!

I'd do the cat-back If it's a budget you're on the Pacesetter Moza cat-back is good as it's only mild steel and not s/steel so is like half the price and is a great exhasut for adding power.

The difference with the intakes is the Weapon R is short Ram which sites the filter in the engine bay to suckup hot engine bay air. you can hear the induction roar more though. The AEM is a CIA and will locate the Air Filter into the fender in between the bumper and the splashguard in the wheel well. These are suppossed to be better but as long as you have a 'cold air feed' you're ok. CIA go downwards as the coldest air is 6" from the ground so if you make an air feed (I'm fabbing one at the moment and including a heat shield by way of putting a speaker port in a hole in the front bumper about 6" from the floor and using the stock intake hole in the inner fender to run it to the filter which is already in the heat shield which amplifies the sound!

Actual;ly the header will give better top end hp but you may lose a little toque. You need back pressure for torque and the header is immediate to the combustion chamber so you are likely to lose torque and you probably wont notice any extra power!

I'd do the cat-back If it's a budget you're on the Pacesetter Moza cat-back is good as it's only mild steel and not s/steel so is like half the price and is a great exhasut for adding power.

The difference with the intakes is the Weapon R is short Ram which sites the filter in the engine bay to suckup hot engine bay air. you can hear the induction roar more though. The AEM is a CIA and will locate the Air Filter into the fender in between the bumper and the splashguard in the wheel well. These are suppossed to be better but as long as you have a 'cold air feed' you're ok. CIA go downwards as the coldest air is 6" from the ground so if you make an air feed (I'm fabbing one at the moment and including a heat shield by way of putting a speaker port in a hole in the front bumper about 6" from the floor and using the stock intake hole in the inner fender to run it to the filter which is already in the heat shield which amplifies the sound!


There will be a bit of a gain from a header and you will notice the difference. You will lose a little torque but not much. You will have more top end horsepower and more low end horsepower. I did mine and could notice the difference

upper and lower engine mounts will help. go to carcustoms.com and you can get them for $65 shipped. A cat back exhaust and header will help also

1. carcustoms.com doesn't exist.

2. I thought motor mounts were either one or the other? If you have the lower, getting the upper would almost do nothing, and vice versa.

Actual;ly the header will give better top end hp but you may lose a little toque. You need back pressure for torque and the header is immediate to the combustion chamber so you are likely to lose torque and you probably wont notice any extra power!

I'd do the cat-back If it's a budget you're on the Pacesetter Moza cat-back is good as it's only mild steel and not s/steel so is like half the price and is a great exhasut for adding power.


Where can I get the Pacesetter's at?

Isn't adding an exhaust without a header pointless? The air has to travel through the header before it gets to the exhaust, so I don't see how I would get anymore air flow without replacing the header?

sorry. carcustoms.net

You can get 1 or the other but getting both will do alot more. I think you can the the pasestetter from summit or jegs. You could also check ebay, thats where I got mine for 75 shipped

Isn't that a little cheap for an exhaust system? I know generally you get what you pay for... and I wouldn't expect much from an exhaust system that cheap.

What kind of installation job is required for the upper/lower engine mounts? Do I have to lift the engine out of the bay?

Isn't that a little cheap for an exhaust system? I know generally you get what you pay for... and I wouldn't expect much from an exhaust system that cheap.

What kind of installation job is required for the upper/lower engine mounts? Do I have to lift the engine out of the bay?

The pacesetter header is about $75. I think its going to be mild steel. So you will have to paint it with some high temp paint. Its worth it.

The pacesetter cat back is about $170. I havent tried it. Its going to be mild steel instead of stainless. I just had an exhaust shop custom bend my pipes for $200. Got 2.5 inch mild steel.

You wont have to pull the engine for the mounts. The upper is just an insert. You just pull out 2 bolts and put it in with the stock mount. The lower is a full replacement. Again you will just unbolt the stock mount and insert the replacement. Took me about 30 minutes to do both. That was the first mod I did and the 1 I noticed the most gains from.

Exhaust without a header will produce gains as it allows the gasses to flow better and even with a stock Manifold you will see gains. Pacesetter are good producta but not very high prices. The biggest difference is the fact that's it's painted (usually dk blus for systems) mild steel instead of stainless. Stainless is a lot more expensive to produce, but also, all stainless systems are overpriced because they are stainless and shiny!!

most of the headers out there are the same. Most of them are copies of pacesetter or rksport. Just get what you want. The pacesetter isnt bad at all. Its a great price. I noticed gains from it and my exhaust. Nothing major but it was very noticable

My Weapon-R is scheduled to arrive today... hopefully it'll be there waiting when I get home, but I probably won't attempt to install it until I get home.

I guess next I'll go for the pacesetter exhaust, and then the upper and lower motor mounts. Or maybe the mounts first? It's about the same price, but with the exhaust I'll get to enjoy the rich sound. But with the motor mounts I'll maintain the "sleeper" look. So I dunno.

The pacesetter exhaust you said you have doesn't sound too ricey does it?

And will I be able to hear the new intake or will the engine sound the same?

You will be able to hear the intake. When you are driving. at say 40 mph just floor it and you will hear it. and above about 3000 rpm you will hear it roaring!! www.nopionline.com has the Pacesetter for a good price. It's not ricey don't worry.

Not sure if this has been mentioned. But when you do a full exhuast, its wise to get a resinator because with new header, high flow cat and larger pipe they tend to become raspy..

You will be able to hear the intake. When you are driving. at say 40 mph just floor it and you will hear it. and above about 3000 rpm you will hear it roaring!! www.nopionline.com has the Pacesetter for a good price. It's not ricey don't worry.

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I went to www.nopionline.com, put in that I had a 2004 cavalier, and it only brought up one exhaust, and it was indeed the pacesetter, but it says its for the 2.4L? So I don't think it'll work with my 04.

What do aftermarket ignition wires do, besides dress up the engine? Increase reliability?

What do aftermarket ignition wires do, besides dress up the engine? Increase reliability?

Some are of less resistance then stock wires and supposedly give a better spark allowing more power, torque and economy but if it does change it it's not a lot. Also one like Nology have built in Capacitors that store charge and then release it all at once giving a huge spark. I've seen these demonstrated with lighter fluid and they do do something but whether it would make good enough gains to warrant the $130 for 'em I don't know! Should try finding someone with 'em first.

Oh okay... well I found some ignition wires pretty cheap on nopionline.com, but it appears they're only functional when used with an ignition distributor, and that sucker's 300+ bucks.

What about the pacesetters?

Some are of less resistance then stock wires and supposedly give a better spark allowing more power, torque and economy but if it does change it it's not a lot. Also one like Nology have built in Capacitors that store charge and then release it all at once giving a huge spark. I've seen these demonstrated with lighter fluid and they do do something but whether it would make good enough gains to warrant the $130 for 'em I don't know! Should try finding someone with 'em first.


My buddy with the sunfire has got blue ones. He didn't really notice anything with them , since when he added them he also installed a new header, and full exhuast so nothing was to be compared against. BUt he says if it ignites his Nitrous better, he dosn't care, they look good.