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Old 12-28-2004, 07:29 PM   #1
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Lightbulb 2006 mustang cobra wish

Anybody besides me like to see the next Cobra have the 5.0L Cammer instead of a supercharged 4.6??? I know I would. The Cammer already has the potential to be tuned to 500hp. If I'm not mistaken that would make the Cobra a potential giant killer without forced induction. Then we as aftermarket tuners could throw our own superchargers or even twin-turbo charge it. The cobra would OWN!!! But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. I mean... why shouldn't Ford consider that?

It could be just a Mustang GT with independant suspension and a 5.0L Cammer engine. Killer
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Old 12-28-2004, 08:14 PM   #2
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Why? So that you can have a much poorer powerband? With big heads and a huge intake that motor makes absolutely ZERO low end torque. The only saving grace of the 03/04's that actually made it fast was the fact that it had tons of low end torque to get its massive weight going from a stand still. Lose the roots blower and you lose that torque, it's not gonna happen. Plus a 500 horsepower naturally aspirated motor isn't nearly as reliable, and good luck building one that passes noise regulations.
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Old 12-28-2004, 11:10 PM   #3
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Re: 2006 mustang cobra wish

SVT has plans to put a motor from a Ford GT (supercharged 5.4L Lightning hopped up) in front of a t-56 6-speed manual transmission with re-engineered independant rear suspention. this from a book i recieved for chrismas about the evolution of the '05 mustang. as well as word from the inside (SVT engineer i know, living near detroit pays off). so there.
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Old 12-28-2004, 11:23 PM   #4
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Re: Re: 2006 mustang cobra wish

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SVT has plans to put a motor from a Ford GT (supercharged 5.4L Lightning hopped up) in front of a t-56 6-speed manual transmission with re-engineered independant rear suspention. this from a book i recieved for chrismas about the evolution of the '05 mustang. as well as word from the inside (SVT engineer i know, living near detroit pays off). so there.
Hey i'm from detroit too, but I'm stationed in Japan right now. Anyway, i thought it was a good idea to put the cammer in. Well, does anybody know why we can't get a turbocharged cobra instead of a supercharged one. Besides tradition.
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CAn you tell me where I can find a Mustang Car Club in AR? I just purchased a 2004 GT and would like to join a club. Thanks
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Old 12-29-2004, 01:15 AM   #6
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Looking for a Mustang Club in AR or close to AR
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Old 12-29-2004, 03:10 PM   #7
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GhostX, wher did u get that pic from?? its sweet
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Old 12-29-2004, 04:47 PM   #8
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SVT has plans to put a motor from a Ford GT (supercharged 5.4L Lightning hopped up) in front of a t-56 6-speed manual transmission with re-engineered independant rear suspention. this from a book i recieved for chrismas about the evolution of the '05 mustang. as well as word from the inside (SVT engineer i know, living near detroit pays off). so there.
That would be sweet.
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GhostX, wher did u get that pic from?? its sweet
It's 3dCarbon's body kit. I thought maybe I better put their name on the pic. They have ALOT of cool stuff for the new stang.
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Why? So that you can have a much poorer powerband? With big heads and a huge intake that motor makes absolutely ZERO low end torque. The only saving grace of the 03/04's that actually made it fast was the fact that it had tons of low end torque to get its massive weight going from a stand still. Lose the roots blower and you lose that torque, it's not gonna happen. Plus a 500 horsepower naturally aspirated motor isn't nearly as reliable, and good luck building one that passes noise regulations.
You're saying Ford's DOHC 5.0 has zero low end torque? If that's so, why did they put that engine in the GT-R? Why then did that engine outperform a supercharged 4.6, which has more low end torque by what you say, in its last road test?
It must be doing something right and I sure wouldn't mind seeing those magical "5.0" emblems back on the side of the Mustang.

While we're pipe dreaming here a little bit, I'm going to say what I'd like to see in the new 06 Mustang Cobra. I'd like to see the V10 that was in the A/C Cobra concept car. A Mustang with 600 hp and 500 lb/tq would destroy what compitition it has left.

Speaking of the A/C Cobra, I saw on Discovery Channel last night Ford plans to not build the A/C Cobra but the Shelby GR-1. The Cobra was the concept plans but the GR-1 would be the actual car in the dealerships if this happened. Anybody heard any word about this car?
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Old 12-29-2004, 09:36 PM   #11
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You're saying Ford's DOHC 5.0 has zero low end torque? If that's so, why did they put that engine in the GT-R? Why then did that engine outperform a supercharged 4.6, which has more low end torque by what you say, in its last road test?
It must be doing something right and I sure wouldn't mind seeing those magical "5.0" emblems back on the side of the Mustang.

While we're pipe dreaming here a little bit, I'm going to say what I'd like to see in the new 06 Mustang Cobra. I'd like to see the V10 that was in the A/C Cobra concept car. A Mustang with 600 hp and 500 lb/tq would destroy what compitition it has left.

Speaking of the A/C Cobra, I saw on Discovery Channel last night Ford plans to not build the A/C Cobra but the Shelby GR-1. The Cobra was the concept plans but the GR-1 would be the actual car in the dealerships if this happened. Anybody heard any word about this car?
I seen that same show. thats the first i heard about the GR-1. that was a sweet car and it was cool how they came up with that. i didnt know that had a V10 in it. WOW thats great. thats different then the Ford GT500 right? i was kinda thinking that the Gr1 was replacing it.
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Old 12-29-2004, 10:12 PM   #12
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I seen that same show. thats the first i heard about the GR-1. that was a sweet car and it was cool how they came up with that. i didnt know that had a V10 in it. WOW thats great. thats different then the Ford GT500 right? i was kinda thinking that the Gr1 was replacing it.
Yeah I looked it up today and found out it's going to have the same engine as the A/C Cobra concept. Also, it's not replacing the Ford GT in any way shape or form. If you remember from that show, they said Ford is sending a message to the car world saying it wants to be a major competator in the exotic market. The GT-40 was the first step and if this GR-1 gets the green light, it'll be the second.
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yeah, i do remember something about that. i wonder how much the gr1 will cost?
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Old 12-30-2004, 07:32 PM   #14
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I would of course want the 5.0 cammer in the SVT Cobra, no less. Or atleast make a boss 302 to put the cammer in, or a GT500 for the cammer? (5.0, GT500?) That would be pretty sweeet. But if its the 5.4 supercharged, thats gona be pretty crazy. N/A tune can bring it to some pretty amazing levels, atleast above 350-400hp.
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Old 12-31-2004, 06:04 PM   #15
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The GT will be ending production when the GR-1 comes online. It's not that Ford wants to end production, the GT will not pass the safety requirments in 08.
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