12-28-2004, 07:29 PM
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2006 mustang cobra wish
Anybody besides me like to see the next Cobra have the 5.0L Cammer instead of a supercharged 4.6??? I know I would. The Cammer already has the potential to be tuned to 500hp. If I'm not mistaken that would make the Cobra a potential giant killer without forced induction. Then we as aftermarket tuners could throw our own superchargers or even twin-turbo charge it. The cobra would OWN!!! But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. I mean... why shouldn't Ford consider that?
It could be just a Mustang GT with independant suspension and a 5.0L Cammer engine. Killer
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12-28-2004, 08:14 PM
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Re: 2006 mustang cobra wish
Why? So that you can have a much poorer powerband? With big heads and a huge intake that motor makes absolutely ZERO low end torque. The only saving grace of the 03/04's that actually made it fast was the fact that it had tons of low end torque to get its massive weight going from a stand still. Lose the roots blower and you lose that torque, it's not gonna happen. Plus a 500 horsepower naturally aspirated motor isn't nearly as reliable, and good luck building one that passes noise regulations.
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12-28-2004, 11:10 PM
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Re: 2006 mustang cobra wish
SVT has plans to put a motor from a Ford GT (supercharged 5.4L Lightning hopped up) in front of a t-56 6-speed manual transmission with re-engineered independant rear suspention. this from a book i recieved for chrismas about the evolution of the '05 mustang. as well as word from the inside (SVT engineer i know, living near detroit pays off). so there.
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12-28-2004, 11:23 PM
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Re: Re: 2006 mustang cobra wish
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Originally Posted by StangNut86
SVT has plans to put a motor from a Ford GT (supercharged 5.4L Lightning hopped up) in front of a t-56 6-speed manual transmission with re-engineered independant rear suspention. this from a book i recieved for chrismas about the evolution of the '05 mustang. as well as word from the inside (SVT engineer i know, living near detroit pays off). so there.
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Hey i'm from detroit too, but I'm stationed in Japan right now. Anyway, i thought it was a good idea to put the cammer in. Well, does anybody know why we can't get a turbocharged cobra instead of a supercharged one. Besides tradition.
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12-29-2004, 01:04 AM
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Re: 2006 mustang cobra wish
CAn you tell me where I can find a Mustang Car Club in AR? I just purchased a 2004 GT and would like to join a club. Thanks
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12-29-2004, 01:15 AM
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Re: 2006 mustang cobra wish
Looking for a Mustang Club in AR or close to AR
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12-29-2004, 03:10 PM
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GhostX, wher did u get that pic from?? its sweet
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12-29-2004, 04:47 PM
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Re: Re: 2006 mustang cobra wish
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Originally Posted by StangNut86
SVT has plans to put a motor from a Ford GT (supercharged 5.4L Lightning hopped up) in front of a t-56 6-speed manual transmission with re-engineered independant rear suspention. this from a book i recieved for chrismas about the evolution of the '05 mustang. as well as word from the inside (SVT engineer i know, living near detroit pays off). so there.
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That would be sweet.
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12-29-2004, 08:29 PM
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Re: 2006 mustang cobra wish
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GhostX, wher did u get that pic from?? its sweet
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It's 3dCarbon's body kit. I thought maybe I better put their name on the pic. They have ALOT of cool stuff for the new stang.
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12-29-2004, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by boosted331
Why? So that you can have a much poorer powerband? With big heads and a huge intake that motor makes absolutely ZERO low end torque. The only saving grace of the 03/04's that actually made it fast was the fact that it had tons of low end torque to get its massive weight going from a stand still. Lose the roots blower and you lose that torque, it's not gonna happen. Plus a 500 horsepower naturally aspirated motor isn't nearly as reliable, and good luck building one that passes noise regulations.
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You're saying Ford's DOHC 5.0 has zero low end torque? If that's so, why did they put that engine in the GT-R? Why then did that engine outperform a supercharged 4.6, which has more low end torque by what you say, in its last road test?
It must be doing something right and I sure wouldn't mind seeing those magical "5.0" emblems back on the side of the Mustang.
While we're pipe dreaming here a little bit, I'm going to say what I'd like to see in the new 06 Mustang Cobra. I'd like to see the V10 that was in the A/C Cobra concept car. A Mustang with 600 hp and 500 lb/tq would destroy what compitition it has left.
Speaking of the A/C Cobra, I saw on Discovery Channel last night Ford plans to not build the A/C Cobra but the Shelby GR-1. The Cobra was the concept plans but the GR-1 would be the actual car in the dealerships if this happened. Anybody heard any word about this car?
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12-29-2004, 09:36 PM
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Re: 2006 mustang cobra wish
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You're saying Ford's DOHC 5.0 has zero low end torque? If that's so, why did they put that engine in the GT-R? Why then did that engine outperform a supercharged 4.6, which has more low end torque by what you say, in its last road test?
It must be doing something right and I sure wouldn't mind seeing those magical "5.0" emblems back on the side of the Mustang.
While we're pipe dreaming here a little bit, I'm going to say what I'd like to see in the new 06 Mustang Cobra. I'd like to see the V10 that was in the A/C Cobra concept car. A Mustang with 600 hp and 500 lb/tq would destroy what compitition it has left.
Speaking of the A/C Cobra, I saw on Discovery Channel last night Ford plans to not build the A/C Cobra but the Shelby GR-1. The Cobra was the concept plans but the GR-1 would be the actual car in the dealerships if this happened. Anybody heard any word about this car?
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I seen that same show. thats the first i heard about the GR-1. that was a sweet car and it was cool how they came up with that. i didnt know that had a V10 in it. WOW thats great. thats different then the Ford GT500 right? i was kinda thinking that the Gr1 was replacing it.
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12-29-2004, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lckycharm713
I seen that same show. thats the first i heard about the GR-1. that was a sweet car and it was cool how they came up with that. i didnt know that had a V10 in it. WOW thats great. thats different then the Ford GT500 right? i was kinda thinking that the Gr1 was replacing it.
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Yeah I looked it up today and found out it's going to have the same engine as the A/C Cobra concept. Also, it's not replacing the Ford GT in any way shape or form. If you remember from that show, they said Ford is sending a message to the car world saying it wants to be a major competator in the exotic market. The GT-40 was the first step and if this GR-1 gets the green light, it'll be the second.
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For a long time it gave me nightmares... witnessing an injustice like that... it's a constant reminder of just how unfair this world can be... I can still hear them taunting him.......
silly rabbit, tricks are for kids...
I mean, WHY COULDN'T THEY JUST GIVE HIM SOME CEREAL?
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What?! Record sales are slumping? Must be from all those pirates. Can't be because we started sucking 10 years ago.
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12-30-2004, 06:46 PM
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Re: 2006 mustang cobra wish
yeah, i do remember something about that. i wonder how much the gr1 will cost?
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12-30-2004, 07:32 PM
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Re: 2006 mustang cobra wish
I would of course want the 5.0 cammer in the SVT Cobra, no less. Or atleast make a boss 302 to put the cammer in, or a GT500 for the cammer? (5.0, GT500?) That would be pretty sweeet. But if its the 5.4 supercharged, thats gona be pretty crazy. N/A tune can bring it to some pretty amazing levels, atleast above 350-400hp.
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12-31-2004, 06:04 PM
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Re: 2006 mustang cobra wish
The GT will be ending production when the GR-1 comes online. It's not that Ford wants to end production, the GT will not pass the safety requirments in 08.
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