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New GT-R? But... 2007?


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monooxide
12-02-2004, 09:42 PM
WOW first thread w00t... i thought it was going to come out in 2007? thats what Nissan had last released i had heard

1viadrft
12-02-2004, 10:02 PM
2007 or 2008... V6 turbo or V8 is what I have heard... mostly rumors so far. Nothing solid.

AWDSR20
12-03-2004, 02:37 PM
pix??? i saw one that looked like a Z..boooo

1viadrft
12-03-2004, 04:12 PM
I saw a pic in Road n' Track... didn't look quite like a Z but it may have been photoshopped. I do know however that they were/are using a G35 shell (looks kinda like a Z) for testing... that may be what you saw?

2of9
12-03-2004, 10:03 PM
yeah, i saw one on car and driver too.

1viadrft
12-04-2004, 12:04 PM
Yeah it may have been Car and Driver I saw it too... it was the issue with the Fairlady/350Z Type E? I'm not sure where I even stuck that mag....

illbeatyourhonda
12-05-2004, 03:08 AM
well find that pic, iwanna see one photchopped or not. or guide me in the dirrection to seing a glimpse of her hehe

k3smostwanted
12-05-2004, 07:41 AM
HERE is an article by C&D!!! (http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=29&article_id=8707)

this is the pic from the article...
http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/image/1042004113655.jpg

freakonaleash1187
12-05-2004, 09:44 AM
i don't like the big black hole looking thing in the front. it looks....off. it does just look like a bolder version of a G35.

DomesticRicer
12-05-2004, 05:45 PM
http://speedycars.chinacars.com/wallpaper2/infiniti/Infiniti%20G35%20Sport%20Coupe%202003%20-%20019.jpg

Take the image above and mirror it...then look at the pic of the Skyline that was just posted^^

1viadrft
12-05-2004, 07:57 PM
i don't like the big black hole looking thing in the front. it looks....off. it does just look like a bolder version of a G35.

Gentlemen... lets not forget that the G35/V35 is continuing the Skyline line in Japan. The GTR should not fall too far from it's 'base' version apperance. BTW that is the exact car in that pic I mentioned earlier... could just be an evolving concept (remember the other GTR concept about three years ago?) and we have yet to see the final product. This version has changed a bit from the last but keeps the same lines more or less, so don't be surprised it looks more or less like the above pic!

Not what about base price? Has anyone heard anything? In past discussions about the new GTR it was suggested it should/would run for $50K...

:uhoh:

k3smostwanted
12-05-2004, 11:39 PM
yeah i cant seeing nissan/infiniti going all out like they did the z32 and losing sells because of the price. i can imagine it being around the same price as the vette, i think that will be the car nissan will be attempting to take sales from. along with the bmw m3 and various other companies' "halo" car. you cant expect nissan to get into competing with lamborghini, ferrari, BMW m5, and those types of car's sales. thats just not practical.

i don't like the big black hole looking thing in the front. it looks....off. it does just look like a bolder version of a G35.
yeah it does...also dont forget to pick up on the intercoolers peaking out behind the side vents...:evillol:

1viadrft
12-06-2004, 02:42 PM
How much do the new 'Vette's go for anyway?

k3smostwanted
12-06-2004, 05:45 PM
MSRP is like $45k-a little over $50k....

j_greene
12-08-2004, 05:53 PM
Nissan is shooting for the 911 performance numbers at a lower price. It should be competing with the Vette. This should make for a nice comparison, Vette (US), 911 (Germany), and the GTR (japan).

zauber
12-09-2004, 03:57 PM
is it going to be released in the US?

k3smostwanted
12-09-2004, 07:25 PM
only time will tell, but supposedly nissan says it will be offered world wide...

ZedEx
12-09-2004, 09:45 PM
You guys may think Im crazy... But I've already starting a savings acount to fund my GTR purchase when it comes out.

So far Im at $3,200 :D

And its not getting touched... Not for a Zed... Not for an engine... GTR only.

Cant wait :D

-Wes

justjap
12-10-2004, 06:31 AM
they have said august 97 coswoth developed v6 engine will keep you advised

Steve

EvoCrazy
12-11-2004, 03:20 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing it. But, I rather take that supercar Toyota is comming out with. It will kill the next GTR, no offense.

CaTasHtRoPhE 67
12-11-2004, 03:33 PM
I cant wait to see what they deside to make it look like...

k3smostwanted
12-11-2004, 04:52 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing it. But, I rather take that supercar Toyota is comming out with. It will kill the next GTR, no offense.

i seriously doubt it unless it comes out a couple years after the GTR. i have read in reports by many car magazines, that talk to engineer's and people that work for toyota, that toyota isnt trying to create another super car in the near future. but i wish the best fo luck...i would like to see another japanese competition for the best cars. that is usually how we get the best cars ever made!!!

VQuick
12-11-2004, 05:20 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing it. But, I rather take that supercar Toyota is comming out with. It will kill the next GTR, no offense.

I guess we'll see. The latest info in Car and Driver says it could be either a 5L V8 or a V10, with around 500hp. That isn't much more than the GT-R is rumored to have. In addition, the Toyota won't have forced induction, which means probably less torque than the GT-R, and less tunability. The Toyota will probably cost closer to $100k, as well.

TeamFL1
12-11-2004, 10:22 PM
nah the GT-r is going to be like the NSX price range i bet... i like the look of the 2007 GT-R, but the old one is better... but sometimes change is good... we'll have to find out and Supra?/?????... i don't think toyota has ever beaten Nissan in performance as yet..maybe i wrong but its an opinion n i bet everyone agrees

VQuick
12-12-2004, 09:04 AM
nah the GT-r is going to be like the NSX price range i bet... i like the look of the 2007 GT-R, but the old one is better... but sometimes change is good... we'll have to find out and Supra?/?????... i don't think toyota has ever beaten Nissan in performance as yet..maybe i wrong but its an opinion n i bet everyone agrees

The GT-R should be a good bit less than the NSX. The highest rumored price has been $72k. Even if it is that high, you're getting 911 Turbo performance for 911 Carerra money. That's a great value, and Carlos Ghosn said he wanted to keep the price reasonable so that 'you won't feel like you're being ripped off.' Who knows, it might even be less than $72k.

ZedEx
12-12-2004, 05:01 PM
My guess is anywhere from $42,000-$55,000 fully loaded.

But my savings acount is growing :D $3,850 :evillol:

I figure by the time it comes out, I'll have enough saved up to make a pretty good dent in the price for a downpayment... God I cant wait.

And even if it never comes out, I'll have enough to import a sweet BNR32.

-Wes

publicenemy137
12-14-2004, 01:07 AM
I plan to get a GT-R out of college as well if all things goes right and I land that IT network security job. Don't forget that the suspension is being tuned by lotus, the company that makes the best suspensions :) . Lets hope the looks will be simple but clean and aggressive

j_greene
12-14-2004, 11:29 PM
Look at it being less then $60,000. The new Toyota will be upwards of $100,000 and a different category all together. It will have either a V10 or V12 with over 500bhp. Weight, aerodynamics, chasis, and suspension will be F1 inspired. Sorry to say, but the GTR is not quite at that level. They are already testing the prototypes.

j_greene
12-14-2004, 11:32 PM
Because I dont know how to post pics heres the link to a spy photo of the Toyota.

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101005

k3smostwanted
12-15-2004, 12:34 AM
Because I dont know how to post pics heres the link to a spy photo of the Toyota.

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101005

nice spoiler on that toyota car, i think i have one identical in my RICE magazine made for a sunfire. :thumbsup:

j_greene
12-15-2004, 09:46 AM
I doubt that the spoiler or the leather body panels will make it to production. Its a test car genius.

Dreamspawn
12-15-2004, 10:07 AM
Didn't one of the nissian guys say somthing at the Tokyo Auto salon show bout the ening being the VQ35dett and maybe a v8 option???
Also does nebody see the problem of nissian trying to market a car with 280hp? Remeber japanese power limit would they just post those numbers there? Or just do what they did with R34/R33 just say 280 although they dyno more.

VQuick
12-15-2004, 05:04 PM
Didn't one of the nissian guys say somthing at the Tokyo Auto salon show bout the ening being the VQ35dett and maybe a v8 option???

There hasn't been any recent info about a turbo VQ35 or some sort of VK V8 for quite some time. For over a year now, the rumored engine has been a VQ32DETT.

Also does nebody see the problem of nissian trying to market a car with 280hp? Remeber japanese power limit would they just post those numbers there? Or just do what they did with R34/R33 just say 280 although they dyno more.

The recent GT-Rs already had 276hp(280ps) or more. The gentleman's agreement between manufacturers was pretty much to avoid rating their cars over 280ps. How much the cars actually produced was fair game. That would explain why the Evos and STis have around 300hp(sometimes more), the Mitsubishi 3000GT/GTO and Toyota Supra had 320hp, the Honda NSX had at least 290hp, and the R34 GT-R had up to 340hp. The agreement has pretty much been done away with. Honda was the first to break the 276hp rating barrier with their new 300hp Legend. Other manufacturers will soon follow suit.

k3smostwanted
12-15-2004, 06:16 PM
The recent GT-Rs already had 276hp(280ps) or more. The gentleman's agreement between manufacturers was pretty much to avoid rating their cars over 280ps. How much the cars actually produced was fair game. That would explain why the Evos and STis have around 300hp(sometimes more), the Mitsubishi 3000GT/GTO and Toyota Supra had 320hp, the Honda NSX had at least 290hp, and the R34 GT-R had up to 340hp. The agreement has pretty much been done away with. Honda was the first to break the 276hp rating barrier with their new 300hp Legend. Other manufacturers will soon follow suit.


nice info, that has been asked alot.

I doubt that the spoiler or the leather body panels will make it to production. Its a test car genius.

yeah i was just joking there genius. :D

VQuick
12-15-2004, 07:15 PM
nice info, that has been asked alot.
No prob. The '280hp' thing is a little pet peeve of mine. It's 280ps! It's pferdestärke, not horsepower!! :mad: The hp-ps conversion is .98632hp=1ps, so you get 276hp.

j_greene
12-16-2004, 09:46 PM
yeah i was just joking there genius. :D

OK. We are all geniuses's . . . . uh we are all smart? Some people would hate the Toyota just because it is a Toyota so I wasn't sure if you were hating the concept of a Japanese super car or the appearance of a test car.

I hope that the GTR will be turbo powered. Easier to make it go faster. Nissan should leave the V8 mass produced sports cars to the U.S. Not that they couldnt though.

klone420
12-16-2004, 09:57 PM
the new skyline would look good if they changed the hood,lights,grill,bumper&possibly the fenders.
But, its still a hot car!

klone420
12-16-2004, 10:29 PM
I just read that the skyline r34 gtr v-specII can get 500ps-413hp? when you adjust the twin turbo. I've got to get one!!

k3smostwanted
12-17-2004, 03:51 AM
OK. We are all geniuses's . . . . uh we are all smart? Some people would hate the Toyota just because it is a Toyota so I wasn't sure if you were hating the concept of a Japanese super car or the appearance of a test car.


no i was just joking about the funny looking spoiler. i think it would be sweet if toyota came out with another performance car. then it would start another JDM performance car battle...which in result, the consumers (us) would end up with GREAT cars once again, resembling the early 90's.

2of9
12-17-2004, 11:37 PM
so..when is the GTR coming to the US?

phantomxinc
12-18-2004, 04:26 AM
so..when is the GTR coming to the US?


supposedly from a magazine I was reading today, it said sometime early 2006 but it would be a 2007 model, and the engine would most likely be in essence of the japan 350z engine (speculation on the magazines part as a nissan rep has told them of two types of engines they are thinking of using), also they most likely will keep the old style tail lights! Thats one of my main concerns, they need to keep some originality in it! Oh and its in the newest mag of Sport Compact Cars so pick it up at your nearest newsstand to read up on it!

SkylineMan32
12-18-2004, 03:37 PM
The Skyline with 413Hp your talking about is the BNR34 GTR V-Spec II Nur, they sy all you have to do is pull the restrictor. If the Skyline is only RWD I won't touch it! They need to bring back like a 350Hp RB26, and a 400HP RB28. Inline Sixes Rule! Also I wan't AWD GTR's (all around all hauling), and GTS's (drifting, snow drivng,etc.) The 2007 skyline comes out when I get my license. If my dad comes through I'll get an EVO ($30,000 ish budget) so make that GTR cheap!

k3smostwanted
12-20-2004, 02:46 AM
why do you would want the GTS's RWD for snow driving??? if you wanted to drive a skyline in the snow you would probably want the GTR's AWD....and for the record i doubt nissan will backstep and go with the inline6 RB engine series in the new GTR. i dont mean to get your hopes up but.....a V-configured engine will be used in the new skyline whether it is the VQ, VH, or VK. but most likely, i fore see nissan using a FI VQ...

1viadrft
12-20-2004, 07:30 PM
RB is dead kiddo's... why use 15 year+ technology? The VQ and VK is the new top dog! I saw something interesting at the NISMO booth in Fontana at the JGTC event... and I took a few pix...






Supercharged VK? No? YEAH! Supposedly it was for the Titan... but this may be a taste of things to come. Will post pic soon!

j_greene
12-20-2004, 09:39 PM
RB is dead kiddo's... why use 15 year+ technology? The VQ and VK is the new top dog! I saw something interesting at the NISMO booth in Fontana at the JGTC event... and I took a few pix...






Supercharged VK? No? YEAH! Supposedly it was for the Titan... but this may be a taste of things to come. Will post pic soon!

I too saw that. The rep said it was just a NISMO prototype for SEMA, and they are not sure if they will do ahead with production. I figure making NISMO parts for the Titan would make better sence then making them for the 350z. Reason being, there is already a huge aftermarket for the Z in comparison to the Titan. You could get cheaper performance parts with the same quality ealsewhere. Reguarding the Titan, NISMO could be ahead of the game if they start making parts for the Titan. If you build it, they will buy.

I know none of this really dealt with the GT-R but who cares.

EvoCrazy
12-21-2004, 10:57 PM
About that new Supra. The wing wont make it to production. And looks like the GTR is not on its level... No offense, but I always liked the TT Supra more than the extremly overrated GTR.

1viadrft
12-22-2004, 09:25 AM
Who gives a flying winged-crap about the Supra? Go to Supra forums to discuss your love for it and your detest of the GTR! And to be quite honest the new Supra will probaly sell crappy and will be out of production soon unless iut gets rid of this "super-car" shit!

EvoCrazy
12-22-2004, 10:51 AM
Dude, the new GTR looks great. If I have the money in that time period, I'll get it. But, I do like the Supra more. And, the Supra forums are dead, and full of idiots, so I never go there.

1viadrft
12-22-2004, 02:00 PM
You mentioned that the old GTR's are over-rated? Yeah... maybe the whole F&F hype kinda mystified the GTR... but still... it's a better car in all senses compared to the Supra!

EvoCrazy
12-22-2004, 02:34 PM
Yea, thats what made me not like the GTR as much. Its just so bastardised by that crowd. Everyday when I mention Ferrari, someone mentions how the R34 can crush it. I tell them "NO IT CANT!" But, because they cant get it they sweat it, so I rule in favor of the underdog, the Supra. But like i said the GTR looks sweet as hell.

Dreamspawn
12-22-2004, 04:59 PM
Yea, thats what made me not like the GTR as much. Its just so bastardised by that crowd. Everyday when I mention Ferrari, someone mentions how the R34 can crush it. I tell them "NO IT CANT!" But, because they cant get it they sweat it, so I rule in favor of the underdog, the Supra. But like i said the GTR looks sweet as hell.

Dude not to offend u but which ferrari?? If you have seen ne of the best motoring vids the skyline has stomped the 360 like 3 times. Could it beat ferrari's ugly enzo no. * yes i said it the enzo is ugly take a look at the Maserati MC12 same car differnt body.

EvoCrazy
12-22-2004, 11:09 PM
Ahhhhhh. The 360 is a better built car than the GTR. And about those vids. Its always about the driver. I've seen 3 NSXs beat the shit out of a R34 V-Spec 2. And another time I've seen the same GTR beet them. And then I've seen a Supra beat it. Then the other way around. And then I've even seen a RX7 beat it. So, dont froget its alwas about the driver and the conditions.

Oh, and about the Enzo being ugly (happens to be my fav car). Well, thats your opinion.

This is what I hate about Skyline fans. Ya get SO defensive if someone isnt on the boards jerking off of it. I mean, its a GREAT car, but it aint the car to end all cars.

If I ever see Craig Leiberman, I'm gonna kick him for starting all this........

k3smostwanted
12-23-2004, 02:19 AM
so I rule in favor of the underdog, the Supra.

dude, by no means would i classify the supra as an underdog...it is just as popular as the GTR with the rice fanatics...you have to remember the star of the original F&F was the supra so the rice kids jumped on that bandwagon real quick...but then they saw the race between the s2000, supra, rx7, and GTR and soon jumped on the GTR bandwagon because it beat out the 3 other cars....

by no means is the supra an underdog...i here kids talking all the time about how the supra is the best car ever built and non sense like that...people just need to face the fact, that most of the japanese super cars have been becomed idolized cars for viewers of bull s*** films.

the way i see it, both and all the jap super cars are great cars!!! all having difference resulting in a different better car in each and every category...

Dreamspawn
12-23-2004, 03:47 AM
This is what I hate about Skyline fans. Ya get SO defensive if someone isnt on the boards jerking off of it. I mean, its a GREAT car, but it aint the car to end all cars.

If I ever see Craig Leiberman, I'm gonna kick him for starting all this........

I didn't mean to sound defensive or jumpy just pointing somthing out. I agree great car but car to end all cars no. That would be a F1 cars job. Although the 2005 season is going to be alittle sucky FIA cutting engine size etc.... the V10, high rpm, most technolgical advanced cars in the world will be gone :frown:

EvoCrazy
12-23-2004, 01:25 PM
Thats true. F1 cars OWN, and extremly hard to drive.

1viadrft
12-23-2004, 07:37 PM
I too saw that. The rep said it was just a NISMO prototype for SEMA, and they are not sure if they will do ahead with production. I figure making NISMO parts for the Titan would make better sence then making them for the 350z. Reason being, there is already a huge aftermarket for the Z in comparison to the Titan. You could get cheaper performance parts with the same quality ealsewhere. Reguarding the Titan, NISMO could be ahead of the game if they start making parts for the Titan. If you build it, they will buy.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/myz32rocks/SCVK.jpg

Let's hope this catches on!!! Bwahahahahahaha!

klone420
12-23-2004, 07:54 PM
:eek2:, Nice

1viadrft
12-23-2004, 08:00 PM
Yuh!

EvoCrazy
12-23-2004, 08:52 PM
Holy shit, that looks sweet!

klone420
12-23-2004, 09:44 PM
how much power?

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