Thumprkils

been offered a monte carlo ss for my ta do I have any votes on should I trade, the M C has 350 edlebrock intake n carb, looks as good
as the ta on my website http://members.cardomain.com/thumprkils

CreepingDeath94

If it is in the same condition as your T/A and an even trade I think I might do it. The Monte Carlos are fun too and Ive seen some pretty cool ones out there. Does the Monte Carlo have t-tops? If not, then I don't know though...it's kind of nice to be able to pop off the t-tops and cruise in the open air on a nice day.

hotrod_chevyz

Take the monte.Its a full framer thats cheap to flow out,and the resale of those things are going out of control.My boss has one for sale for 6 grand right now.Its in pretty good shape.Make sure you look at the title,and make certain its not another SS clone tho.If you see a clear title to the 87ss monte,i say go for it.Just remember its heavier and lacks the aerodymamics and steering capabilities your T/A has.Less overall performance,but more resell value .And with a full frame you can put a motor in it that you cant put in a Trans am without going to a full custom tube frame/sub system.They both have wishy washy whimpy 4 link setups.But performance trailing arms and adjustable control arms fix that...

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Thumprkils

wel the votes are in think Ill just move the ta to the shed, where itll be nice n cozy for the winter, finish it up next couple of weeks, will send pics of the engine when I complete it, and just drive the ol monte carlo round a while, its pretty fast,nothin fancy just 71 or 72 monte motor (350), edlebrock intk edlebrock carb, headers

Hypsi87

They are not that much heavier, my car is 3,567 with me in it and that is with 15 gallons of ice water in the back for the intercooler. Also as far as handeling. Remember, they did use that same car and suspension (well 4 link suspension) in nascar, you can get them to turn. The weak spots on any G-body car are the trannies (assuming that it is still a 200-R4.) and the rearends. The GNs where the only ones that came with the good ten bolt (8.5 inch ring gear as opposed to the 7.5 inch ring gear) One thing you might want to look into if you get the car is body braces. They install behind your seats in the trunk area. G-bodies have a problem with twisting and warping body metal right above the rear part of the doors ( check out the pic, I know it is not a montie but they both share the same flaws in body work)


The braces will take car of that

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hotrod_chevyz

Mine only weighs 3100 lbs.I estimate this by its original body weight wich is 1535 kg / 3384 lbs.Have in mind a V8/350 trans setup is heavier than your v-6 (crate weight).Plus i subtract weight for features that have been removed for added weight loss.Im about seventy pounds heavier due to speakers and amps than I should be.If i pull the t-tops and back glass out of it and weigh it,i wonder what weight it would be then.
I may have lost more weight than i have verified to you.The exhaust lost 50 pounds easy.The AC,and external plastic trim,as well as the emissions/engine electrical (non critical)and any contained features of,have been done away with.I am replacing the passenger side firewall here pretty soon to one of a 84 camero wich had no ac option.Thats probably good for a few pounds.Heck i might even get rid of the heater assy.too.
Other specs for my car original can be found at http://www.supercars.net/cars/1982@$Pontiac@$Firebird%20Trans%20Am.html

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hotrod_chevyz

Cars with T-tops are incapable of cracking in the Place you have revealed,unless you shatter a t-top.Thats why i am running with my 82'T/A,instead of the others (two 87 Firebirds,and a 83 Camero) i have owned.They all had the cracking your talking about.So i stripped all of them to the frame,saving or selling all parts,and sold the remains (and titles)to junk yards.

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Hypsi87

I did not see the t-top, in that case the same problem will happen further back.My uncles 87 GN did it and it was a T-top car.

My car is a pig I still have AC and noting strippedin the thing and I just added the 15 gallon icewater resivor.

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Voted FASTEST street car on AF.
Here is the proof!!!
1987 Buick Grand National.
Back in action!!!!
1999 Ford F-250
Tow rig from hell 598 Ft-lbs.
ASE Certified in...
Mobile AC
On Highway medium duty diesel engines.
Off highwayy medium duty diesel engines.
On highway trucks.
Working on the eletronics certification

Member ofA.A.N.B.C- Afer against non boosted crews #2

Thumprkils

thanks creeper,hotrod,&hyspi.
this ol ta of mine has been alot of trouble,
never had one that spun bearings (in 2 engines )just
as quick as i had put them in it
guess that just happens sometimes
just about finished with the ta now,
its just so hard to find the time to close it up
right now
and this this monte popped up, so now i got em
both,( didnt want to let the ta go)
gonna clean a place out in the shed tomorrow
put the ta in there n close it up soon
bye the way i like that g.n.,and rods black bird
next spring, want to do my ta black like that with
silver lettering and highlights

hotrod_chevyz

tx and good luck.that monte was a good investment.as for your t/a,if it keeps spinning bearings like that,i would either question sombodys(your) leadfoot,or the quality of the bearings,main caps,or the machining involved.Perhaps sombodys eyes were a little off when they measured it for proper bearings

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Thumprkils

yea hotrod,I do play when I m out just a little.
but now its got that big ol 400 pontiac in it
thnx