ok, I have just spent close to a year driving a ford mustang and have decided that I will for sure go honda on my next car. I know I will get a 4 door unless I find a great deal on a 2 door. the civic my friend has is a 2 dr EX with nothing to the engine but intake. and he is always bragging. he thyinks his car does a 6.5 0-60, anyways, I would like to be able to win a race with him, and I am a better driver completely, he had like 5 months to practice wiuth his car and the first time I got in I was already shifting faster and could launch much better. he thinks just rev it and drop it, he spins them every time!


I am going to get

-AEM CAI
-neuspeed N2 header
-exhaust (I know a guy who ownsa muffler shop so I get install free and parts at cost, so i might go for dual 2 inch with no cats to a couple mufflers but not sure what kind yet)
-underdrive pulleys

Is this enough to let my accord win. also, If i can find an LX for alot cheaper, I will have lost 15 HP over the EX but is this still enough to get a LX to beat a EX cvic, also what is the smallest shot you can get of nitrous. I have only heard of 50 or more can you get like a 35 shot or anything s,mall like that, I have heard the 50% rule so 50 shot would be fine, also i wont use it too much either, but just to be safe, and i think with the mods listed and 35 shot id easily beat the civic. and how muchg is the JDM H22A swap cost on average?


and is it the prelude vteccomes with 2.2 vtecmotor and the others are the 2.3. ir is it the lx accords have the 2.3 also, because ive heard thart the H23 is beter for turrbo because it has lower compression.

It will be dropped with eibach pro kit on 18" quantum tek with 215/35/ZR18 khumos becasue schwab got them wholesale so 1100 for set of 4. will the added weigbht slow it down at all? noticeable?

the big loss of the lx is that they have a manifold instead of a header, and if u put a header on a LX you will have 12-15 more hp. For the muffler it is illegal to drive without a cat. At least you will need to get a high flow cat. You can drop the resonator if u want to. I do not reccomend using piping larger than 2.5" on a 4 banger. As for the nitrous i know jack. An average jdm h22a will be aroun 2300 @ www.jdm1.com

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I think that with all those mods you should spank him pretty bad even without the nos.... I have a 93 accord dx I spanked a 01 civic ex and all I have is intake and no resignator..... So you shouldn't have any problems with beating him!!! :cool:

[SIZE=1]I think you'll beat him w/out the NOS. The most important thing is the headers. Get 4-2-1 headers and you'll notice a big difference. I have em on my 5th gen accord and they're great. And if you're a better driver thats the biggest advantage anyway, so I think u got him. good luck

ok, In have found the H22A for 2300 and 250 ship,ping from JDM1.com and which of the next 2 cars do you hink would be faster and better for daily


stock engine, I/H/dual E, underdrive pullys.

H22A engine, Vtec controller(like 4500)

the stock with I/H/E and pullies will be cheaper but

also, how much modifiation has to be made to do the swap, do the lude axles fit right in? how hard is it to hook up all linkages, etc...???

and later on the swap will recieve I/H/E and pullies and maybe 50- shot nos

Im guessin u both have manuals..cuz u said when u shift..but my ghetto 94 accord lx is an auto and i know a guy that has a 97 ex auto...i was just drivin my car, how i always do...a quick start but i didnt slam it at a green light and he said he was tryin to race me...i kicked his ass without even tryin...i dunno if its all ex's but his car is slow..my car is stock with a intake filter head..thats it, he has full intake and exhaust and its a p.o.s haha so i dunno

Dude a pretty much stock civic can't do shit! lol You will take him your Accord EX easy, now I'm not sure about any lower model Accords without VTEC but with an EX definately. I only say that cause of previous experience. My car I had before I got my Prelude, was a 95 Accord EX sedan and my buddy has a 00 Civic EX with exhaust and and intake and the day I got the car he was talkin' shit sayin he would spank me in a race. Well lets just say the bone stock Accord took the race. Good luck with the Accord man, they are great cars.

Originally posted by accordEXvtec
ok, In have found the H22A for 2300 and 250 ship,ping from JDM1.com and which of the next 2 cars do you hink would be faster and better for daily


Since you haven't bought the car yet, you can decide if you want an OBDI or OBDII. Starting in US 96, the cars were OBDII. The engine swaps are more expensive than OBDI's and there's less power due to the more emission control. If I were you, I'd get a 95 LX and do the H22A swap.

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V-TECH A noise that makes you think you are going faster!!

nopt exactly, the gsr is faster than the LS, the EX civic is faster than the LX civic, EX accord faster than LX accord, vtec lude faster than SI, del sol vtec faster than SI, just a noise?
REALLY? :D

VTEC is DEFINITELY NOT just a noise.
Anyway. First off, I dont think this guy is running 6.5 0-60 with just an intake on his Civic. he might run a good 7.5 in my opinion. Thats on a good day. If you just get an intake on your accord, you should get up with him easily. After those other mods, stomping him should be easy. REAL EASY.

Nitrous isnt necessary at all. If you want it, a 50 shot is the smallest you can get. Are you interested in making it a race/street car, a race car, or just getting it fast enough to embarass your friend and unsuspecting V6's.

well, actually todya, i wemt and looked at another car, a 94 integra and i bought it, it is a RS buit some way it hasa power windows, steering, cruise and everythign but the moonroof and power locks, but i has intake, DC 4-2-1, strut bar dropped like 3 it looks, 17" konig tantrums, euris, cd amp and subs, ground effects. I drove it and after drivign that and driving my friends civic, I KNOW I wil be able to kill him with just htis, but i think i might get this NOS 50 shot out of JC whitney for this car and use it jus in case a car is ever winning. and if im ever at the track, like that will happen though.

Its funny how that all the true drag racers when they build honda motors DO NOT use motors with V-TECH!! because they have enough since to know that it is useless!!! I might would give it a little more credit in a car that has every mod you can do to one and stay N/A but I doubt it...
V-TECH a noise maker to make you think you are going faster!!!

Now on the other hand secondaries are a whole new ball game!!! You can fell that it does make a difference!!!

first of all, say it with me "V-T-E-C" OK, vtech makes phones and shit. also, are you sure everyone uses motors with out vtec, and I donyt know alot about the poeple who have honda race cars or anything, but it could be that when you have high high boost and NOS then amybe vtec is a problem or somehting, but vtec isnt a noise. amnd i do agree that secondaries are a good thing also. well, hmm, my truck makes a different noise when the secondaries open, maybe they are good for nothing but noise as well?


also if vtec was a noise, why would honda have ever invented the vtec or built the engines with it. it is obviously alot cheaper to make without it. and the lower models sell too, and maybe even if there wasnt the EX and SI civic and the VTEC lude and the GSR and ITR, and thre EX accord, then the lower models would probably sell better. and im not saying vtec does ALOT, but one reason is on the SOHC engines, i have heard only the exhaust valves are opened more, the intake duration and lift stays the same. but obn DOHC you can really notice it.

LATA!

you should beat him with ur car stock, since your car has more power, is faster, and all he has is a CAI, but i dont know

so the accord EX 4 dr is fastre than the civic EX 2 dr? I didmnt know that, I knew it had more power but thought since the civic was alot smaller than itwould win.

I believe the Accord wins that race. But not by an amazing amount.

First of all, Accords are considerably heavier than Civics. This means that the Civic will pull off the line further than the Accord. But take this into consideration... your Accord LX has a 2.2L engine with 145 ponies while your friend's Civic has a 1.6L engine with maybe 120 ponies (maybe). Whenever you're racing off the line, itz all about horsepower. So even if your friend has a CAI, that will only bump his ponies up to around 125-130 MAX. You will still be able to beat him... but maybe not by much. Since his car is lighter than yours, he will be able to accelerate quicker than you can. But in the end, your car will be able to pass his. :)

I used to race my cousin. He has a 99 Mitsubishi Galant ES and I have a 95 Honda Accord DX. Both cars have around the same horsepower (130-135). Every time we raced off the line, he would be able to keep up with me in first, but when I hit 2nd gear, he would always fall behind half a car length. And when I just hit 3rd, I would be in front of him a whole car length. The reason for this is because Accord engines have a good amount of torque, while Galant engines falter in 2nd gear. I noticed this and it was proven everytime. By the way, we both have AT's (auto trannies). :D

Ok, the perpose of the Vtec is to gain more torque at higher RPM without scrificing any Horsepower and to help MPG... If you are building a car strictly for drag it is useless in most cases because you are accelerating the whole time and it kicks on and off so repidly between shifts that it doesnt do much good. It is Gods gift to street cars, not drag cars. If you wanna build a street course racer it is better cause you are not going full throtle the whole time...

Jason

Ummm... Whenever you race off the line it is about TORQUE... "Ponies" keep a car moving, Torque getts it to move...

Jason

Those mods, sound like more than enough to roast your buddie with the civic. I am a big fan of the Accord I drive a 97 Accord and I have spent about two years making my fast. I don't think the nos is a good idea. The bottom line is , it's an Accord., it's the heaviest car that Honda makes and the Civic is the lower end Honda. Expect that thing to weigh less, also expect to have a bigger enigne. If you want speed throw a turbo on a Prelude engine and then swap... Good luck :smoka: :devil:

Hmm, interesting, prelude swap and a turbo you say?? I think I might do that!


Hey wait a minute!!!! That's what I'm in the middle of right now!!!!!! HAHA, I can hardly wait!!!!!!

Do NOT buy anything from JDM1. These people are unscrupulous and do not follow up on their promises! It has been 9 months since I ordered a B18C swap from Shaan and I still have not received all the parts supposedly included with the swap. In addition, I ordered an OBD1 swap and received an OBDII. Then they expected me to pay to ship all the incorrect stuff back before they would ship replacements. I am seeking legal action against JDM1. They cost me an additional $2000 in parts for the defective or missing parts.
In addition, I have never received proof that the engine is legal. I suspect that it is not and have submitted my info to federal authorities, as the engine was shipped across international boundaries

A word to the wise, don't waste your money and time.
Let the BUYER BEWARE!