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Fuel rail recal and fuel pump preasure regulator


waynem451
06-20-2004, 06:34 PM
For those of you that have recieved your recal notice for the stainless steal fuel rails you'll be pleased to know that you will also be getting a new fuel pump preasure regulator along with the rails. The old unit isn't compatable with the new rails. I was just about to buy a new FPPR but found out about the replacement when I had the rails changed. Before the work was done I found that I had occasions where my 97 didn't start as fast as it used to. Now it's back to normal.

Spinman
06-20-2004, 09:02 PM
I just checked the invoice for my '96.

The only line items were for the rail kit and a seal kit. No mention of a pressure regulator.

In fact, I asked the service technician when I dropped off the car if I should consider replacing it at the same time - and he said it was not necessary. I would notice when it was time by harder starting symptoms - but it wouldn't leave me high and dry if I acted promptly.

Bill V
06-20-2004, 10:28 PM
The fuel pressure regulator is NOT part of the recall, but the seals are part of the kit...

roo
06-21-2004, 08:52 PM
hey waynem which dealership in which town did the recall service?

apollo7879
06-30-2004, 09:16 PM
dealer did the fuel rail replacement yesterday. I checked the work & found that the stainless steel fuel rail has an integral fuel pressure regulator built into it, from now on in order to replace the FPR you will have to replace the fuel rail assembly, since it is brazed into the fuel rail.

waynem451
07-04-2004, 01:39 PM
As you can see from the last post, the new rails include a intergrated FPPR. ONe other item that surprised me was that the mechanic that did my recall work also braided my new plug wires with plastic looming material and those were the plug wires that I changed myself a few days before. Nice guy!

Bill V
07-05-2004, 01:17 AM
The plastic conduit on the plug wires is part of the recall. The old fuel pressure regulator is re-used with new seals. The rail design is different, but the regulator is still serviced separately and is the same part number as before.

apollo7879
07-05-2004, 12:42 PM
Bill V, Don't know where you got your information, but it is incorrect. Do you own an Aurora? Recall was done on my car(1996), I know the FPR is not replaceable, since it is completely brazed into the fuel rail assembly,I know this to be a fact because I have seen the rework, have you? My car did not get the spark plug wire harness protection!!??.

apollo7879
07-05-2004, 01:12 PM
Disregard my last post. Bill V, I have rechecked & you are correct. The new fuel rail has a housing for the the FPR brazed into it, but it appears that the regulator has just been relocated into the new housing. Again my apologies, I should have looked under the hood again before responding.

SteVB
07-05-2004, 04:52 PM
when i first called the dealer, they said 95`s aren`t covered. then i called oldsmoblie to complain ,as i have had 5 of the lines rupture so far, and they called back after an inquiry & said that my car wasn`t built at the covered assembly plant, so they couldn`t do anything for me, even though i stressed that i had 5 lines rupture so far.
SEEMS OLDSMOBILE IS "STANDING BEHIND" ME, NOT THIER CARS! LOL!!

Sweet William
07-05-2004, 05:48 PM
I was told the same thing about my 95 that is squirting gas from a line right now by the service managers in my area. "Not covered". I called 1-800-442-6537 and talked to a woman named Darla (ext. 58186). She did some checking and got back to me a few minutes later to say that GM would replace it since the recall is pending for the 95's. She even called the dealer of my choice so the service manager would know what's going on. Called the dealer and was told to bring it in tues.7/6 to get it fixed.

I don't know who you called, but if everyone that has had this problem calls maybe GM will issue the recall for everyone.

RobertHammen
07-05-2004, 10:43 PM
Your car wasn't built at the covered assembly plant? That's hilarious, seeing how all Auroras were built at the Lake Orion, Michigan assembly plant (where my mother-in-law used to work before relocating to Wisconsin :-)

--Robert

Bill V
07-06-2004, 01:34 AM
Disregard my last post. Bill V, I have rechecked & you are correct. The new fuel rail has a housing for the the FPR brazed into it, but it appears that the regulator has just been relocated into the new housing. Again my apologies, I should have looked under the hood again before responding.

No problem. :)

SteVB
07-08-2004, 02:02 AM
Your car wasn't built at the covered assembly plant? That's hilarious, seeing how all Auroras were built at the Lake Orion, Michigan assembly plant (where my mother-in-law used to work before relocating to Wisconsin :-)

--Robert
hey, i agree, but thats what the rep at Oldamobile told me.She said it, not me,LOL... All i can do is wait & see if theyre gonna really recall my car, but if they don`t soon, i`m gonna replace the rest of my plastic hoses with rubber ones & replace my regulator, cuz i`m having the hard-to -start problem now.....o well....

SteVB
07-08-2004, 02:05 AM
I was told the same thing about my 95 that is squirting gas from a line right now by the service managers in my area. "Not covered". I called 1-800-442-6537 and talked to a woman named Darla (ext. 58186). She did some checking and got back to me a few minutes later to say that GM would replace it since the recall is pending for the 95's. She even called the dealer of my choice so the service manager would know what's going on. Called the dealer and was told to bring it in tues.7/6 to get it fixed.

I don't know who you called, but if everyone that has had this problem calls maybe GM will issue the recall for everyone.
Thanx Will, i`ll call Darla & see if she can help......

Sweet William
07-09-2004, 09:55 AM
Thanx Will, i`ll call Darla & see if she can help......

Any luck getting yours taken care of?

I got my 95 back yesterday and was suprised to see that they had put the steel lines on. I was told originaly that the old style rail would be put on and when the recall is issued I would have to bring car back in for the update. When I called the service manager to see what was up and thank him he said mine was one of the first 95's that GM had covered. He said the recall should be comming soon for all 95's.

Anyone that has had the problem should keep calling. Problem is most 95 owners don't know anything about the recall and probably the local mechanic doesn't either.

brewitzer
07-18-2004, 01:07 PM
Can I get your actual name? I've got the same problem with my 95 and am getting the run around from Oldsmobile. I was coming back from a trip to a beauty supply store on Thursday when I smelled this strong odor of gas and called my husband from my cell. I was getting very fatigued suddenly. Got home and he checked and found a leak in the FRS. I coulda been killed!!! I want this fixed but don't feel I should have to swallow the cost since they've already recalled the 96 and 7's. It's the same damned part! Any help and/or advice would be appreciated as I need my car back on the road.
Thanks, Beth

fluffie
07-18-2004, 04:25 PM
Can someone tell me why when I called the Oldsmobile 800# here in Canada they told me there was no such recall ??

pizza442
07-22-2004, 12:58 PM
I finally got my 95 rail done on July 14, after sitting at the Buick-Pont dealer since late April with a busted rail. Called the 800# for the 3rd time and tried to get Darla's ext.. The gal I got had to pull my file first. I explained how this was supposed to go; she puts me on hold to get auth., then calls the service mgr. at the dealer where the car is. I had the mgr. and dealer names ready. She asked if the car had been diagnosed already, and I said yes as they originally were trying to get $500 from me to put in an oldstyle rail. She put me on hold, called the dealer, got the serv. mgr.'s voice mail but said she would follow up. Long story short; it was finished 2 days later, with the new rail. So they are doing the replacements for diagnosed-failed rails only (liability?). Part #s are 12499781 for rail and 12499840 for seal kit. MY invoice said "perform 04014 recall" and V1149. The 95 rail is different hence the wait for it to get into the parts system.

The Rebel
09-10-2004, 11:35 PM
Can someone tell me why when I called the Oldsmobile 800# here in Canada they told me there was no such recall ??


:2cents:You may want to look on this board to see the American 800 # and call that to see if they have any info on the Recall for other countries and when they kick in!

fluffie
09-11-2004, 11:39 PM
Thanks for the reply but when I did that they just connected me to a Canadian help line that gave me the old I do not know what your talking about line. I will just have to keep looking .
thanks again

The Rebel
09-12-2004, 02:39 PM
your welcome!

Retro-D
09-12-2004, 03:06 PM
It appears the fuel rail recall is now officially extended to the 95 models. This also includes replacement of the plastic fuel return line unique to the 95 models. I have scanned the document I got in the mail and posted it to share will all of you. I personally had made several phone calls in the last month or so to Oldsmobile and had always been told the 95's would not be included, so the change is very recent. The recall also includes a reimbursement form for those who had their car repaired earlier and still have the receipts. Don't let your dealer simply "inspect", insist on all the nylon fuel rail being replaced, this is your life we are talking about!

Good Luck to all,
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