Your broke and you barely make ends meet, but one day luck is on your side. You check your lotto ticket and guess what you just won $40,000. So you always had dreams of owning a fast car, and you decide f*ck it I’m getting me a fast car. You decide that it must be from an Japanese manufacturer, can not be older than 1998, and it must be fast. So you think of some cars to buy and your list comes down to 10 cars that you cost under $40,000. Here is your list-

2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STI ($31,200)
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX ($24,600)
1998 Toyota Supra Turbo ($32,200)
2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR ($33,000)
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution ($28,900)
1999 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 ($23,700)
2004 Nissan 350Z Track ($34,200)
2004 Mazda RX-8 ($26,700)
2004 Honda S2000 ($32,800)
2004 Infiniti G35 Coupe ($32,500)
(prices are blue book and can be more or less)

Now you decide to break these cars down to find out what which car can provide you with most of what you want (Remember you only have $40,000 to spend on car and what is left would go to mods)-

Stock Power
Tuning Potential
Price
Styling
All Around Performance
Livability


So which is the best choice, which of these cars would fulfill most of these needs, which of these cars is the best all around buy? When measuring a car, especially when compared with others, all of this and perhaps other factors should be taken into account.

I'd have to go with the biggest Muscle on the list and take the Supra.

99 vr4 baby, just as much muscle!

STi

No question, the best car on the list is the Evo MR.

Shortened it, perhaps alittle to long of a post

Infiniti G35 Coupe.

1998 Subaru 22B + shipping.

Of Course 3000gt 99 Vr4!!!!!!!!!!!

Its funny how everyone goes with a 2005 car they havent even seen or driven. by the way EVos are fast cars but they sure are ugly as hell.

Judging simply by whichever car would be the most fun to drive, S2000.

Its funny how everyone goes with a 2005 car they havent even seen or driven. by the way EVos are fast cars but they sure are ugly as hell.

EVOs aren't pretty, but to me they don't look that bad. Also you say how it's funny how everyone is going for the EVO MR when they haven't even seen or driven it. But probably most people who have voted haven't driven most cars on the list, have you driven all the cars on the list? I did drive the EVO and wow (and I owned a VR4 before), if the EVO MR is better and faster, double wow. As far as not seeing it, have you seen a base EVO before? Well then there you go that's how the EVO MR looks.

how could you put the vr4 on there without the 300zx tt? well, i would go with that because it might not go the fastest, but damn does it look sexy. but if i would choose of the list, i would go with its succesor the 350z. yes, i do love z cars.

evo mr.
pound for pound, and especially stock, it's better than anything on the list.

how could you put the vr4 on there without the 300zx tt? well, i would go with that because it might not go the fastest, but damn does it look sexy. but if i would choose of the list, i would go with its succesor the 350z. yes, i do love z cars.

I didn't go with the 300ZXTT because of it's age, I had to set a limit starting from 1998 Models, if went down to 1996 then the 300ZX would have been added, then some one might argue what about the RX-7, then I would have to go down to 1995, and then etc. and etc.
1998 is the limit.

One of the good things about this comparision is that all the cars have their strengths in certain areas and have weakness in others, the car that you feel offers the best combinitation of all the areas is the car you select.

stop repeating yourself in every thread. and i thought you had owned a Base model 3000gt as i read in a previous thread. you owned a VR4 also????

agreed.
the repetition of posts, let alone threads (in style, at the least) is getting old...

i voted for the EVO MR. such a sexy beast. fast, lightweight, and handling to die for.

stop repeating yourself in every thread. and i thought you had owned a Base model 3000gt as i read in a previous thread. you owned a VR4 also????

There's a point to it and I could care less if you think I repeat myself so STF up. Yeah I owned a 95 3000GT Base and decided to trade it in for a 94 3000GT VR4 is that to hard to understand????

Want my life story, owned a 99 Sentra, hated it, wanted something fast, so I traded in the 99 Sentra, for a 95 3000GT Base with around 55,000 miles. Started getting into to cars and started to fix up the Base 3000GT, there weren't alot of parts for the Base 3000GT and I needed more power, so I found a 94 3000GT VR4 for $16,500 with only around 64,000 miles on it. So I started to fix it up, I got ATR exhaust and down pipe, HKS Intake, HKS BOV, Turbo XS Manual Boost Controller, Denso Spark, custom viper blue paint job, custom interior, Excel Rims. Decided to go out drinking and drove, wrecked the car, got a DUI, and now I drive a 98 Sentra, unitl I save up for an EVO. Happy now.

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/421366

agreed.
the repetition of posts, let alone threads (in style, at the least) is getting old...
Then don't read it, nobody is holding a gun to your head?

agreed.
the repetition of posts, let alone threads (in style, at the least) is getting old...
Do I see a full set of Yellow stars under your name?




Nope.



So shut it.

yea i agree and thanks for giving us the chance of hearing such a wonderful life story.

Do I see a full set of Yellow stars under your name?




Nope.



So shut it.

BURN! sorry, had to say that.

i agree with 3000ways, if you are getting tired of reading these threads than don't read them. it is that simple.

2004 Mustang SVT Cobra coupe. 35k you have 5k left over so you can run the 11s in the 1/4. or you can get an 03' for @ 30 and you can put 10k worth of performance and really kick ass.

2004 Mustang SVT Cobra coupe. 35k you have 5k left over so you can run the 11s in the 1/4. or you can get an 03' for @ 30 and you can put 10k worth of performance and really kick ass.
I think your on the wrong thread?? Unless the Ford Mustang Cobra suddenly became a Japanese automobile??

Hmm, can't we just have a thread that said "Best vehicle under 40K?"...That way he can consolidate all the flames in one thread. It would be so much more tidy.

Hmm, can't we just have a thread that said "Best vehicle under 40K?"...That way he can consolidate all the flames in one thread. It would be so much more tidy.

Don't worry it's coming, like I said there is a point, just waiting for a certain amount of votes.

yeah i kind of forgot it was the japanese car thing. sry bout that. its still a good deal.

Mitusbishi EVO MR....

This sounds really stupid, but what is an MR? What separates it from other editions of the EVO? I'm familiar with the EVO VIII, but the MR keeps coming up, and I don't even know what it is!

this is from a Road and TRack review of the MR:

"The new MR version looks to make the Evo an even more enjoyable ride with the addition of a larger turbocharger for improved low- and mid-range power and an extra gear in the form of a new 6-speed gearbox. The MR also sheds about 300 pounds, thanks to a new aluminum roof and lightweight alloy BBS wheels. Improved handling is achieved with even stickier Yokohama Advan tires, revised suspension and Mitsubishi’s famous active center differential, helping to elevate its skidpad number from 0.88g in stock form to a whopping 0.98g for the MR.

And best of all, according to Sam Mitani, the MR is bound for the U.S. “This baby is definitely headed our way,” says the editor of SPEED. Look for the MR to sell for around an amazingly low $33,000."
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/3292004171716.jpghttp://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/0325200420224107.jpg

Cool, thanks for the info. That is one sweet-looking car. I might even have to change my original answer...

i'd go for the 99 VR-4, only 45 of them were sold in the U.S. and such a rare car, its a collectors item

i would go for the g35, i think it has the best mix of looks and potential next to the supra, 350, vr4, and hey in japan its the Nissan Skyline 350GT, i just like the way it looks, and im sure it can be alot faster than it is stock

wow another ugly ass looking evo!

lol they don't look THAT bad

wow another ugly ass looking evo!

Styling is in the eye of the beholder, while I believe the EVO could use a make over it's not that bad, and apparently 6500 people who snatched up already don't believe they were that ugly.

evo's are okay looking..........for a four-door. i would take one.............then sell it and get a different car.

I'm not crazy about a normal Evo VIII's appearance, and the stock interior looks incredibly cheap, but for some reason that Evo looks really nice.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/3292004171716.jpghttp://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/0325200420224107.jpg

dam, never thought an evo looked so good

i think it's cuz they reduced the gaudiness of the rear spoiler. i'm kinda partial to it's black spoiler, gunmetal rims and black hoodscoop along with the dark tinted windows and bright red paint. i guess you either love it or hate it, no middle ground.

i think it's cuz they reduced the gaudiness of the rear spoiler. i'm kinda partial to it's black spoiler, gunmetal rims and black hoodscoop along with the dark tinted windows and bright red paint. i guess you either love it or hate it, no middle ground.

Yeah and it also has smoked headlamps, that are becoming popular with EVO owners right now. It does look better than the regular EVO, I wonder if it's dropped an inch or two?

i'd go for the 99 VR-4, only 45 of them were sold in the U.S. and such a rare car, its a collectors item

What?

You have any production documentation to back that up?

Nothing on that list can compete stock for stock with the EVO MR on a road course.

nothing!

What?

You have any production documentation to back that up?
http://www.suthnr.com/garage/3s-production.html


3000GT SALES Figures by Year and Model (ed. - NOT production figs)
From: "Molaskey, Stephanie"
To: "'suthnr@geocities.com'"
Subject: written correspondence dated 10/10/99
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:26:33 -0800
Dear Eric,
In reference to your written correspondence dated 10/10/99, I was able to access a partial list of what was requested. I have enclosed a list showing number of models produced per year, broken down into specific model; hope this helps. As far as a number of each color produced, this is confidential and unable to be provided. I am unable to access information regarding the Dodge Stealth, but I have provided you with a number where you may contact Chrysler directly with your inquiry.

Chrysler Customer Assistance
(800)992-1997


TOTAL YTD 3000GT sales by Model years:
1991MY = 9812
base = 151
sl = 6015
vr4 = 3646

1992MY = 13043
base = 1313
sl = 6877
vr4 = 4853

1993MY = 12715
base = 5314
sl = 4271
vr4 = 2550

1994MY = 15973
base = 8812
sl = 5570
vr4 = 1591

1995MY = 14532
base = 9102
sl = 4167
vr4 = 1263

1996MY = 4307
base = 3184
sl = 835
vr4 = 880

1997MY = 6009
base = 3810
sl = 1553
vr4 = 646

1998MY = 2619
base = 1427
sl = 1036
vr4 = 156

1999MY = 526
base = 289
sl = 192
vr4 = 45

2000MY = Discontinued
TOTAL 3000GT Lifecycle = 79,536
If there is anything else that I may assist you with, please let me know.

Stephanie Molaskey
Case Manager, Vehicle Assistance

Wow!

That is a pretty low production number. In some states you can get around having to do emissions if you have a pretty low production number, and 45 certainly qualifies.

really? hmm i wonder what the number is? i bet lots of supra's can get away with it

nothing!

Yeah nothing as far as I can see on the LIST can hang with the EVO MR on a road course, name a car please. Not saying the EVO is the best car in comparison, cuz the comparison asks for many things, but stock for stock nothing on the list should be able to hang with it's all around performance, although the Supra would be very close, well maybe not that close, because the EVO MR out accelerates and out brakes it, and with slalom speeds of 70mph+ and skidpad numbers of .98g, I'd say the EVO MR would out handle the Supra too. The EVO MR weighs well over 400Lbs less too. Still the Supra looks nice, but I don't think the Supra is better performance car stock for stock than the base EVO, let alone the EVO MR.

i was agreeing to the statement not disagreeing.
he siad nothing and i was backing him up buy saying nothing again. i'm a evo-8 fan, i love those cars. mitsubishi baby!

yeah lets all get evos!!!

yeah lets all get evos!!!

Oh once again STF up, nobody ever said everybody should get an EVO, I was just stating my opinion that I think it's the best all around performance car on the list. I am alowed to have an opinion aren't I, so stop crying an b*tching!!!

hmm im just wondering why an rx7 isnt on there... id take an rx7 tt over the rx8 any day

hmm im just wondering why an rx7 isnt on there... id take an rx7 tt over the rx8 any day
that's been explained already. he cut it off at a 1998 or later production date, if he lets one slide he'll have to let others. i'd take a TT RX myself, but not over the EVO MR.

someone ask for production numbers :biggrin:

keep in mind that not all these came to the states

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/3813000Production.jpg

never knew they had a converitble vr-4. never knew they had a convertible 3000gt at all. must of never came to the states.

yogs has one. there in the states there called vr4 spyders. the weigh more but are beautiful. there is one down the street for 23grand

can i see pics yogs? i would like to see this.

this is master yogs vr4 spyder

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/381VR4sRear.jpg

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/381sp3-med.jpg

i hate him :icon16: