Okay since the other one got ruined before it had a chance to really mature, here is the new one. What do you think about nitrous?

IMO, EVERY engine should have a bottle on it :thumbsup:

Oh and it doesn't "melt" your engine.

no but if not properly used or installed it will blow the motor, plus lets say your car catches on fire, i know people carry extingiushers-grammer but what if its too late, laughing gas is VERY flamable

"Oh and it doesn't "melt" your engine."

"no but if not properly used or installed it will blow the motor"

thats what i meant by "melt". it phyically does melt the pistons if you dont tune/build your motor to nitrous specs. thanks for opening the new thread though

I don't see how someone can call using N2O "cheating."

It's just like adding any sort of modification. I just don't see how tuning your car to run N/A is any more respectable than someone running forced induction. It is adding power it is just a different way. After all, things that give you advantage with N/A will hurt you with forced induction and vice versa.

N20 isn't damaging unless you set it up wrong. Tuning your car to run N/A can be just as damaging if you do something wrong. Mess up your cam timing and you can blow your engine pretty quick. If you run too high of a shot of nitrous then you can blow your engine as well. There is no reason, with any form of forced induction, that you can't enjoy long engine life. My 89 GTC was running about 14PSI on the stock engine with 152,000 miles on it when it was totaled. The car ran like new and would take a beating all day long and could get 35MPG. I know of cars with forced induction that have run well over 200,000 miles without problems.

Nitrous isn't my cup of tea. I prefer turbo-charging. There are a lot of different ways you can go to modify your car to go faster. None of them are really bad, just different. Any of them can be stupid mistakes if you do them wrong. I'll give anyone respect that can make any car faster and do it right.

I am glad someone opened a new thread and I’m going to be keeping my eye on it. If it boils down to personal attacks those users posts will be deleted and those users will be reprimanded accordingly.

Agreed, there is no such thing as "cheating" when it comes to modifications. I dont see how N20 is more cheating than an engine swap. ANother thing that doesnt make it "cheating" is that it's available for anyone, fits on any system, just spme prefer it over...as its been said many times before and in the other thread, it's all about whther or not you like it, personal choice.

i agree very much so with polygons remarks. he seems to know exactly what hes talking about.

now when i refered to allmotor being more respected in a race, i just meant that power come a little harder with an n/a setup, so when a turbo/nitrous powered car is defeated, driver fault or not, its a pretty good accomplishment for the n/a driver. anyone agree/dis?

Like I said in the other thread...

"Hmmm I wonder. What is the state of water/water-methanol/water-alcohol systems for cars? Do any people use such a system? Can't say I've really heard of it...

And no... I don't see it as a cheat. An edge is an edge.

But I wouldn't use it."

What a FEELING! Dun dun dun... Sorry.

In my opinion, using Nitrous is like using steroids in baseball, football, whatever: It's CHEATING for the most part. I only think nitrous is acceptable after you've exhausted every single possible bolt-on modification, and then some. What nitrous does is make 13 second cars out of 15 second cars. Granted, so does turbo and super charging, but I will have greater respect if you have a nice supercharger set-up with all the modifications to make it work correctly than if you slap a bottle on a bone stock integra LS, which is what most of the kids do around here, it's ludicrious....How about we run a mile long straightaway run and wait until your bottle is empty, what are you gonna do then smart guy? In my opinion, nitrous is okay if you want to make your 9 second car into a 7 second car, but not to make your 17 second car into a 15 second car, then it's just plain ridiculous.

I should say that the problem I have with it is because of the "NAWWZ culture".

Dayum! Dat Bf-109E-7/Z with da sweet GM-1 NAWWZ system is off da hook yo!

Id hafta say the only thing that bothers me about N20 is the youngn's that strap that shit to their stock civic, and then brag how the civic is the ULTIMATE and INVINCIBLE import car OF ALL TIME...lol

A mod is a mod is a mod... it's reaching the means of becoming fast... As I stated in the last THREAD I started. PLEASE DON'T CLOSE THIS ONE!

NITROUS isn't cheating... it's just like a TURBO or SC...

Nitrous is another way of getting some boost for the motor. Most people out there would say that it is cheating but by all means it is just a way of helping the car out. Like turbo or s/c. I would probably use it to some certain extent. But for now i will pass on the nitrous.

the only thing i don't like about nitrous is the fact its something else that you have to keep filling up other than that its fine. Pistons will only melt when you don't have enough fuel in the chamber ie when you've put big nozzles and solenoids on but haven't upgraded the fuel system - pumps and injectors. Then you'll have melt down.

true, true, nazzzzzz is another mod and yes its another method of force induction but in the culture of time and effort and money in building an allmotor set up gets more respect in my book then going to the store and purchasing one item that anyone with like six bills can do.

there's a bit more to do with a nitrous kit than just buying it.

If that's the case, any kind of boost would be lame, I mean you are just slapping on a hair dryer, why would you get any bragging rights? In your case, the only person that has the right to brag would be the people with the N/A cars. Wait no, that's lame too, after all you just put a different engine in there. (Unless they did a whole lot of work on it)
no, beacause what happens when the bottle runs out? you're still driving the same 15 second car. a turbo,a s/c, a motor swap, will always be a functional piece of your car once installed. you can't run out of turbo, you can't run out of vtec.

you can't run out of vtec.

What would that look like in a conversation?....


Eclipse Owner: Hey man, nice Integra... Wanna run?

Integra Owner: I'd run my Integra... but I'm out of Vtec..:(

Eclipse Owner: :wtf:



:lol:

Aw shit why bother with nitrous when you can have NITRO-METHANE thats the shit!!!!!!!

You know that nitrous was discovered by some swiss doctor. Also the Nazi's used it for their planes in WW2 to improve performance.
whereas british Spitfires and hurricanes used superchargers (FI) to win the battle of britain. So beause the supercharger won the battle of britain N20 is shit. I thankyou.

So NOS = NAZI's = losers
and Superchargers = Allies = Winners

(I'm not serious. The above without sarcasm is true.)

"no but if not properly used or installed it will blow the motor"

thats what i meant by "melt". it phyically does melt the pistons if you dont tune/build your motor to nitrous specs. thanks for opening the new thread though

The same can be said for a turbo or a supercharger or even all motor.

true, true, nazzzzzz is another mod and yes its another method of force induction but in the culture of time and effort and money in building an allmotor set up gets more respect in my book then going to the store and purchasing one item that anyone with like six bills can do.

Fine, you take all the respect you want. Meanwhile I'll be waiting at the finish line ;)

no, beacause what happens when the bottle runs out? you're still driving the same 15 second car. a turbo,a s/c, a motor swap, will always be a functional piece of your car once installed. you can't run out of turbo, you can't run out of vtec.

True but... nitrous is really the only major power adder you can truly "turn off". My car drives, idles, and cruises along just as smooth as it did from the factory. I get (close to) the same gas mileage as stock, and under normal driving conditions my engine isn't stressed any more than stock. You can't say the same for an aftermarket turbo, SC, or high power all motor build. I would even go as far as to say it's safer to add 100 hp from nitrous than from a turbo. The extra power is gonna put extra stress on your engine either way, but with the nitrous it's only doing it while you're racing.

i agree very much so with polygons remarks. he seems to know exactly what hes talking about.

now when i refered to allmotor being more respected in a race, i just meant that power come a little harder with an n/a setup, so when a turbo/nitrous powered car is defeated, driver fault or not, its a pretty good accomplishment for the n/a driver. anyone agree/dis?

Thank you.

However, you statement might hold true for smaller displacement engines, larger engines find a lot of horsepower from simple mods like an intake. Tuning a large N/A can produce gobs of horsepower quite easily. On the other hand if you put an intake on a four cylinder, you're looking at maybe a few horsepower at most.

In my opinion, using Nitrous is like using steroids in baseball, football, whatever: It's CHEATING for the most part. I only think nitrous is acceptable after you've exhausted every single possible bolt-on modification, and then some. What nitrous does is make 13 second cars out of 15 second cars. Granted, so does turbo and super charging, but I will have greater respect if you have a nice supercharger set-up with all the modifications to make it work correctly than if you slap a bottle on a bone stock integra LS, which is what most of the kids do around here, it's ludicrious....How about we run a mile long straightaway run and wait until your bottle is empty, what are you gonna do then smart guy? In my opinion, nitrous is okay if you want to make your 9 second car into a 7 second car, but not to make your 17 second car into a 15 second car, then it's just plain ridiculous.

Well, those kinds of people are stupid. If you run a simply push button N20 setup in hold the button all the way down the track you're looking for a blown engine. Just like with any other form of forced induction you have to tune the car and upgrade the fuel system accordingly or you're going to have detonation, run lean, or blow the engine. A proper N2O kit would activate at WOT and have a computer that checks everything and makes sure it ok to inject the N2O. If it detects and detonation from the knock sensor it will not inject the N2O. Those systems are expensive and aren't easy to install. Doing nitrous the right way is very respectable and not easy.

The type of person you're describing is a ricer that saw Fast and the Furious and went out and bought a simply N2O with two bottle, the big ones! With that type of person you will have the last laugh. Their engine won't last long. Hate the person’s attitude and ignorance, not the technology. Also, who cares if the bottle runs out, that’s their problem. Why should you care, it is that much more of an advantage for you.

bought a simply N2O with two bottle, the big ones!

I saw the biggest nitrous bottle I've evAr seen in a riced out Camaro at a show last weekend. Had to have been a 40 pound bottle :eek:

Holy crap!

I didn't know they even made them that big. It would take quite some time to use all that up.

Well, nitrous actually stresses parts of the engine and of course transmission/gear -

through higher rpm's and more power, every moving part of the engine, transmission etc. has to bear more power/torque.

ja, the gas isn't directly damaging the pistons or whatever by heating them up, but you can't deny that everything has to stand extreme powerloads.

I'm starting to repeat myself, I hope you got my point :icon16:

I'd run nitrous only on strengthened engines with special cams, crankshafts, rods, you name it.

opinions on that?

cu

In my opinion, using Nitrous is like using steroids in baseball, football, whatever: It's CHEATING for the most part. I only think nitrous is acceptable after you've exhausted every single possible bolt-on modification, and then some. What nitrous does is make 13 second cars out of 15 second cars. Granted, so does turbo and super charging, but I will have greater respect if you have a nice supercharger set-up with all the modifications to make it work correctly than if you slap a bottle on a bone stock integra LS, which is what most of the kids do around here, it's ludicrious....How about we run a mile long straightaway run and wait until your bottle is empty, what are you gonna do then smart guy? In my opinion, nitrous is okay if you want to make your 9 second car into a 7 second car, but not to make your 17 second car into a 15 second car, then it's just plain ridiculous.


In england Channel Five's FIFTH GEAR - (TIFF NEEDLE & Vicki Butler Henderson) Took a VW 1.9 Diesel 5 door Hatchback and fitted it with a $1800 dollar nitrous kit. So it went from a 20 something second car to a 15 second or more car. They compared the acceleration to a NEW NSX. It lost naturally but it kept up.

It was utterly fucking pointless and they were going to give it away probably to some stupid punk townie who'll blow himself up hopefully.


Holy crap!

I didn't know they even made them that big. It would take quite some time to use all that up.

1000hp solenoids empty those bottles in a couple of seconds.

Well, nitrous actually stresses parts of the engine and of course transmission/gear -

through higher rpm's and more power, every moving part of the engine, transmission etc. has to bear more power/torque.

ja, the gas isn't directly damaging the pistons or whatever by heating them up, but you can't deny that everything has to stand extreme powerloads.



Extra stress can be said about any modification to the engine that increases power. The piston melts when there's too much air in the chamber so when you hit the funny switch and you hold it down all the N2O need alot of GAS to go with it. If it doesn't the extra oxygen released from the N2O causes the piston to melt.

true that, but which other mod (that is not a turbo :D) does such an increase on performance?

I think the two reasons why I wouldn't do it - 1. it's very illegal here :)
2. just too dangerous - you're driving around with a bomb.

cu

Fine, you take all the respect you want. Meanwhile I'll be waiting at the finish line ;)



Thats cool too, but if I was a sore loser I would simply say he only beat me cause hes squeezed on me.

there's a bit more to do with a nitrous kit than just buying it.
but of course like tapping the injectors to the manifold, connecting the lines, connecting the solidnoids (sp), wiring,ect...... but compared to building a stock motor there is no comparison (sp) it just takes no effort in the nazzzzzz set up.

hey if someone would beat me just because of nitrous I'll probably get one of those kits and beat him! :)

no, beacause what happens when the bottle runs out? you're still driving the same 15 second car. a turbo,a s/c, a motor swap, will always be a functional piece of your car once installed. you can't run out of turbo, you can't run out of vtec.
I agree :naughty:

true that, but which other mod (that is not a turbo :D) does such an increase on performance?

I think the two reasons why I wouldn't do it - 1. it's very illegal here :)
2. just too dangerous - you're driving around with a bomb.

cu

With the proper tuning you can modify the cams ECU and pistons etc
change the compression ratio increase the rpms (properly not just removing the red line and that bollocks) with the use of high rev cams. If you lighten the car as well you can get a descent amount of performance from an N/A set-up on small cars. IE Motorbike engines use high reving engines and so does formula one. It would cost a lot more than a turbo and a fucking lot more than nitrous.

- Nitrous is road legal in England :D

- Why Nitrous Bottles might explode -
Fast Fracture is when a crack becomes too long and too deep that it will reach a critical point where its length will increase at the speed of sound and everything inside comes flying out. (crack before critical failure point will increase directly proportional to pressure inside vessel
ie Hot day = bad)

2nd thing is the way to combat fast fracture is to have a storage device that will increase the crack depth ways so that it will make a hole before fast fracture occurs. This results in the pressure inside the vessel being lost and all the contents get dumped out side the vessel. Note you are probably going to be outside the vessel, best idea is to quit smoking.

Its up to the Nitrous manufacturers on which route they choose.

I saw the biggest nitrous bottle I've evAr seen in a riced out Camaro at a show last weekend. Had to have been a 40 pound bottle :eek:
LOL it's like a propane tank that's bungee-corded to his roof :iceslolan

1000hp solenoids empty those bottles in a couple of seconds.

LOL!

Of course, I was talking about a street application. :iceslolan

Personally, I don't think of nitrous as cheating, with two exceptions. When you've agreed not to use it, or when you've told someone you don't have it, then you use it, that's cheating. Other than that, it's just another mod.

no, beacause what happens when the bottle runs out? you're still driving the same 15 second car. a turbo,a s/c, a motor swap, will always be a functional piece of your car once installed. you can't run out of turbo, you can't run out of vtec.

Well, then just use another bottle or fill up.
What if your turbo malfunctions/breaks? Same thing

but the funny thing is you cant buy a car with nazzzzz as an option, but you can with turbo and S/C.

I notice the neon kids are the only ones calling nitrous cheating.

Get over it, just because you're not willing to use it, doesn't mean someone else isn't willing to put forth the effort required to do it right. You're bitching about someone modding their car. Would you say me putting a turbo on my I4 MX-6 would be cheating? Fuck no. The difference? Nitrous runs out. It's the price you pay for more speed.

Neon kids lol................ thats cute

whos calling nazzzzz cheating? Not me. just trying to state in my opinion that nazzzz is a CHEAP way out not CHEAT, so please calm down its not that serious. anyways as far as me using it, I would, but as final resort. And if you want to add a turbo kit too your mx-6 go ahead, you probably would get more respect than running nazzzzzzz. just my :2cents:

but the funny thing is you cant buy a car with nazzzzz as an option, but you can with turbo and S/C.

I think the Saleen Focus somes with a bottle.

I notice the neon kids are the only ones calling nitrous cheating.

Get over it, just because you're not willing to use it, doesn't mean someone else isn't willing to put forth the effort required to do it right. You're bitching about someone modding their car. Would you say me putting a turbo on my I4 MX-6 would be cheating? Fuck no. The difference? Nitrous runs out. It's the price you pay for more speed.

Glad you noticed that too... I didn't want to be the one to point it out again and start another fight... It's interesting to see everyone's opinions on it... and I would hate for the thread to get locked again. SO STAY COOL! Like the Fonz!

Do any of you RUN with nitrous? I'm not too far away on completing my set-up... bwahahahahahhhaaaha! Here I come 300HP!

but the funny thing is you cant buy a car with nazzzzz as an option, but you can with turbo and S/C.

Ever here of a bolt-on turbo-kit? Those Civic's don't come with a turbo outta the factory either... it's a mod, just like nitrous!

I'm a fan of nitrous. And like I said, after it's all said and done, if you want to run a really big shot, it's not cheap. For all of you skeptics in the other thread, and this one too, I didn't get ripped off. I didn't buy a kit. I did it like I did all of my other mods. Piece by piece and in my garage. $3000 for mine, like I said. That's what it takes to run a 250 shot on stock pistons and crank.:sunglasse

look arguing about whether nos is bad or not is like asking which is better domestic or rice. the argument will always be there and people will have their opinion. some people race the the thought of whatever it takes to win and if you need nos to win then get it. however personally i would just want a supercharger but im not against nos by no means. cheap hp. people buy what is cheap and they can get the most gains out of and nothing can do it better than nos.

I'm a fan of nitrous. And like I said, after it's all said and done, if you want to run a really big shot, it's not cheap. For all of you skeptics in the other thread, and this one too, I didn't get ripped off. I didn't buy a kit. I did it like I did all of my other mods. Piece by piece and in my garage. $3000 for mine, like I said. That's what it takes to run a 250 shot on stock pistons and crank.:sunglasse


I got your back! :smokin:

It seems like the people that think it's 'cheating' or 'cheap' don't have much car anyway... if you have no means of obtaining it... or in other words: if you were a kid with no job and a hand me down car... and you get beat by NOS wielding street-racers on the weekends, then I guess you would try to down-play nitrous and talk trash too... :biggrin: Just my guess...

So how much HP total with nitrous you putting out, Self? What kinda car do you have anyway-?

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no, beacause what happens when the bottle runs out? you're still driving the same 15 second car. a turbo,a s/c, a motor swap, will always be a functional piece of your car once installed. you can't run out of turbo, you can't run out of vtec.
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209neon- I agree

i think that people who think nitrous is cheating either cant afford it, dont know shit about it, or got beat by someone with it. yeeeeah

going to nitrous damaging an engine. i heard a rumor about aluminum blocks and heads. their more "fragile" to nitrous because of the bolds made of steel and the part made of aluminum. (i'm just glad i got a cast iron king :-) ) but thats my only concern with nitrous. but like stated by everyone. the wrong set up is bad. but the right set up is gold! and nitrous just lessens the life of your engine more than damage it. but with any power mod you ARE going to have problems.

As for respect. i'm reminded of this video i have with this kid in a civic or crx hatchback not sure what it was but it was a honda, vs an lt1 camaro. the canaro had work on it and everything and the honda just had nitrous. ok looking at the camaro with a strut bar and "bling bling" making the engine look nice and clean. then looking at the honda with a dusty and dirty engine with 2 stainless steel tubes at the intake tube. i mean please. thats not respectiable at all.

However if the honda took care of his engine made it look nice and all i would give him alot of respect. basicalt time invested = more respect in my book
but just my 2 cents

I saw the biggest nitrous bottle I've evAr seen in a riced out Camaro at a show last weekend. Had to have been a 40 pound bottle :eek:

you sure it wasnt a bass tube discusied like a nitrous bottle? cuz 40 pounds just is rediclious.

I got your back! :smokin:
So how much HP total with nitrous you putting out, Self? What kinda car do you have anyway-?

95 Camaro Z28. Still have the car, but not the nitrous setup. With 200 jets, 570rwhp:sunglasse

aluminium engine blocks are all fragile. Hennessey vipers had that problem thats why they went bust.

Actually thats almost a lie - the reason they broke was because the part the crankshaft sat on (spindel? is that right? I forgot what one of my lecturers called it) was too weak to cope with all the extra power so it broke after 10000 miles. My lecturer did say it wasn't a failure because they achieved what they aimed to do ie reliabilty wasn't really an issue and if you do anything of that magnitude to any car it decreases life expectancy.

Note Those vipers used twin turbo set ups.
any FI as an aftermarket option will cause extra strain on certain parts. Alot of factors go into designing an engine and most of the time they design them to be able to take 1.5 times the power they produce so weaknesses in the engine ie fatigue will increase dramatically because of the new forces involved. Thats basically the risk with any sort of modifications.

Well, then just use another bottle or fill up.
What if your turbo malfunctions/breaks? Same thing
well what if you're in the middle of a auto x event or a race. you can't stop and fill up. of course turbo's and shit can break, so can anything, even a nitrous hook up. if you don't do an install properly or do proper car maintenance then yes, your turbo could break/malfunction, but no matter how well the install was, or how much you baby the car, the bottle runs out and like i said you're still in the same 16 second neon or civic at the end of the day.


I think the Saleen Focus somes with a bottle. no it comes with all the necessary hook ups required to run nitrous but they will NOT give you a bottle to use from the factory.

I notice the neon kids are the only ones calling nitrous cheating.

Get over it, just because you're not willing to use it, doesn't mean someone else isn't willing to put forth the effort required to do it right. You're bitching about someone modding their car. Would you say me putting a turbo on my I4 MX-6 would be cheating? Fuck no. The difference? Nitrous runs out. It's the price you pay for more speed.
dude, shut up. i've said my side and if that's still your impression of me and how i feel about nitrous then you're too thick headed and it's not worth explaining it to you again. :rolleyes: "the neon kids"- are you fuckin serious man? when i first responded to this post i put the term "cheating" in quotes as to allude that it's not really how i feel about nitrous, but since that was the term used by whoever started the thread, i would perpetuate use of it for the sake of conversation.

i'm sure the intelligent people like ldelaysionl, neon, self, can see my side and accept it just like i can see theirs and accept it. i wouldn't put nitrous on a car unless it's already got some, at least basic, mods on it. slapping a bottle of nitrous on a bone stock car and calling it a racer is what i'm against, not nitrous itself. i also could give 2 shits about engine longevity or any of that either, not what i'm arguing, not what i'm against. as far as i'm concerned any mod is gonna decrease the engines life, however big or small an incriment. that's why they make rebuild kits.

arguing over nos is really really pointless. lets just fight over domestic or import its basically the same bitch people will have different views and if you truly love racing you will accept it. if someone beats you using nos then good job give him a thumbs up and make your car faster for the next time you meet.

Ever here of a bolt-on turbo-kit? Those Civic's don't come with a turbo outta the factory either... it's a mod, just like nitrous!
NO sorry I have never heard of a bolt on kit for a honda, gezzzzzzzzz I thought they came stock. Have you ever heard of a vr4TT, supraTT, mr2T, gst, gsx, SRT-4 and the list goes on. I guess it is just like a mod just not factory, so calm down dude just stating my :2cents:

Who cares if it doesnt come factory? It's still a freaking mod, kids. Get over it.

Who cares if it doesnt come factory? It's still a freaking mod, kids. Get over it.
no kidding it's a mod. it's a cheap mod that every lil weenie who saw fast and furious thinks they can use to turn an econobox into a street racer. under certain conditions use of nitrous is fine, but not if it's your one and only go fast mod, and you think you drive a hotrod because of it.

no kidding it's a mod. it's a cheap mod that every lil weenie who saw fast and furious thinks they can use to turn an econobox into a street racer. under certain conditions use of nitrous is fine, but not if it's your one and only go fast mod, and you think you drive a hotrod because of it.
see was that so hard you guys, BP2K2max feels me. yeah who cares if it doesnt come factory Im glad it doesnt, once again back to the main point "YES NITROUS IS JUST ANOTHER MOD" and AGAIN Im not trying to say its not, just trying to say CHEAP way to MOD and NOT CHEAT!!!!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[QUOTE=Mediocrity]Who cares if it doesnt come factory? It's still a freaking mod, kids. Get over it.[/QUOTE
OK, OK Im over it adults :screwy: ................ gezzzzzzzzzzz dont have to yell me! :grinno:

well what if you're in the middle of a auto x event or a race. you can't stop and fill up. of course turbo's and shit can break, so can anything, even a nitrous hook up. if you don't do an install properly or do proper car maintenance then yes, your turbo could break/malfunction, but no matter how well the install was, or how much you baby the car, the bottle runs out and like i said you're still in the same 16 second neon or civic at the end of the day


Well that's the downside of N2O just like the other methods of FI. If N2O never ran out, what would you think? It would be better than the other methods of FI in EVERY WAY, no lag, no leeching power, no complications, cheap,... It'd be kinda like N/A cuz its N2O that would last forever... (BTW, once you get more advanced, N2O is NOT cheap).
That's also why you gotta know when to use it.


slapping a bottle of nitrous on a bone stock car and calling it a racer is what i'm against, not nitrous itself. i also could give 2 shits about engine longevity or any of that either, not what i'm arguing, not what i'm against. as far as i'm concerned any mod is gonna decrease the engines life, however big or small an incriment. that's why they make rebuild kits.


So what if he just slapped it on? If he did no additional work to it, then he won't get much HP gains and his engine will blow up in his face. That's the price he pays for thinking just cuz he got N2o, without any additional work, can think he is a racer. It would be a joke if he beat a turbo-charged car if he left it stock, so you need not to worry.

no kidding it's a mod. it's a cheap mod that every lil weenie who saw fast and furious thinks they can use to turn an econobox into a street racer

See people get caught up so much in that movie that they forget that people have been using it eons before the movie was thought of, even on integra's and honda's. yea it sure added ricers in to it, that goes without saying, but nitrous is a mod people have been using for years.

Who cares if it doesnt come factory? It's still a freaking mod, kids. Get over it.


find where i said it was cheating, ill give you 50 bucks!

all isaid is that i dont prefer it.
209 just said its a cheap way out, he didnt say it was cheating, just said he didnt like it. shit

See people get caught up so much in that movie that they forget that people have been using it eons before the movie was thought of, even on integra's and honda's. yea it sure added ricers in to it, that goes without saying, but nitrous is a mod people have been using for years.

yeah, but referencing fast and furious is just kinda like sayin' "every misinformed lil dork with more stickers, lights and vinyls then actual mods". i'm well aware that people were racing, tuning and squirting nitrous prior to F&F.

I forgot to add to the old thread how much I paid for my Edelbrock dry nitrous setup. I bought the kit for a little over $600 (Jets included, 80-100-125). Anyways, professionally installed it costed me $350. Basically I paid about $1000 total. Mind you that that isn't a direct port wet nitrous system setup, which typically costs quite a bit more. The downfall to nitrous setups is that the power delivery is said to be somewhat instantaneous, instead of linear. That can lead to alot of drivetrain stress. All around though, it's cheap power, except in the long run (Fill ups become commmon, and I was paying about $35 to fill everytime).