Continuation from 86v8 Camaro vs. 3000gt SL

Ok, so you have $2000 cost, sounds good... I guess Ridge went to bed already??

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/103270buggy.jpg

feast you eyes on this!!

This is the official project dune buggy!!!!!

oh, it looks safer than i first imagined

I can contribute and I already have all the tools we will need except for the torch

hell yea, the buggy has pretty much a stock vw motor with a dual weber carb set up, i looked it over at the track last week, friday when i go if hes there ill get all the specs and the total cost it costed him to bulid it

Also ridge the last ten pages in that other thread where all us we started on page 3

One thing we must have though is fuel inection but we will get the system with the engine

what kind of torch... my friend has an arc welder

If we are gonna build this, i probably only come up w/ a couple hundred, but I'm figuring we can ALL make our investment back if ya know what I mean

Perfect thats all we need, I have depth setting tools, impact wrenchs , dial indicators , we are ready to go once we have prints or a frame

We also need a location to build it

lol, hmmm, you are inbetween me and ridge, so that might be the best

BTW check this out, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=632&item=2393854345&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Oh, on a side note, do you guys know why "c a m a r o" got banned

also this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2473486983&category=46093&sspagename=WDVW

hmmmmm

No but I also don't know who Camaro is but I almost got banned today

do yall have your minds set on the porshe engine?
got some cash lol http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2473784483&category=33615

you could also find an engine like this fairly cheap
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2472640942&category=33615

Ok our price of building just dropped to $1500.00

you think we could get a few more investors?

banned for?, oh, those videos right

OK you know what lets start thinking outside the box. why do we have to build a German enginered buggy lets make the engine a 350 Small block with a custom driveshaft for rear engine mount and front wheel drive or even better 4x4 with all GM parts

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10781&item=3672180455&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7900265576&category=34202
these are cheap vw engines with potential

Yeah gotta love the import threads

why not just mount it longitudnally in the rear

oh, my bad, you said FWD

haha, that would be interesting, i have a th350 tranny sitting around, and i have a crack 350 sitting around also, and i have a 3000 stall for that th 350...

how much HP do we want/need?

Come on with the right parts and no emissions we can build a buggy with balls, Also are all buggy's manual or Auto

a vw engines are moslty sticks, 4 sp, but they do have these auto stick pieces of junk

what we want is 300 + Goal horse which is easy cause you figure we are working with shorter exhaust and induction ports and no emissions

But we need a strong engine to start with... I don't know VW's so i don't know anything about those, I was just saying, will they cut it

Will we rip out systems such as PCV?

Stick is cool, one bonus of going with 350 is low end torque this combined with the drivetrain of one of the 4 wheel drive trucks like the blazer customized to work with the buggy length would jump off the line

well, you gotta decide which engine you wanna go with, the porshe engine would be badass but really expensive, now the vw motors are cheap and the mods are cheap, me and my dad just built an 1835cc motor for our bug, with a hot cam, its pretty damn quick

Also a bonus of going with a 4 wheel drive set up is that we don't has to worry as much about the take off

but those 4x4 axles and tranfer case is gonna add alot more weight, i say stick to rear wheel drive

you think you can custom fit the 4x4 system

Still porshe engine would be cool , I don't know its up to you guys , the only thing for sure is no VW engine cause almost all of them use them

We could always weigh down the front just a little for counter balance... wheelie bars sound good too

350 sounds good to me

Oh yeah its not that hard its just 2 differentials instead of one and a transfer case, you can pick these parts up from a junk yard but ridge is right rear wheel drive is better for performance wise and wheelie bars will look awesome

plus it will be simpler to build... so we'll mount the engine cross-wise in the back? We'll need a FWD tranny then right

No I can't think of any tranny that is front wheel drive and used with the 350

I think we would need to custom build something .

but you can't mount the enigne in the back and use a RWD tranny, because it is made to transfer the power to the OPPOSITE wheels, you'd need a FWD set-up only on the back wheels

wait, how do they put 350's in Pontiac Fierro's???

you could stick the thing up front, have it set up just like any other car, but then you would have a serious problem with traction

OK I got you we buy the plans and we build the frame and we extend the frame in the rear by 2 1/2 to 3 Feet and use a gearbox without a driveshaft to operate the rear wheels

or you could mount a mid engine design, have a regualar tranny and rwd, just a real short driveshaft

Is there gonna be a Diff? or just link the trans directly to the wheels, solid axle and such

Also this will improve handling by creating a closer mid engine mount design

how is the VW buggy set up??

so will the driver sit in front of the engine?

it will mount just like a regular drivetrain but without the use of the driveshaft, it will go engine tranny differential

well the vw is alot easier, its a rear engine with a trans axle, rwd and i think it might even be posi, they jus take the rear out of a vw and bolt it directly the the buggy frame

but wouldn't a solid axle be better for a drag car, which is what we are essentially making, do we need to turn?