What are the latest rumors for the Skyline GTR's arrival in 2007? Last I heard was NA V8 with AWS/AWD... but this is being debated... I also heard a V6 TT... anyone hear otherwise-? Are their any concepts or pix yet???

Twin turbo VQ with an unknown displacement, 480ps(473hp), awd, no aws, 2008 in Japan, and 2008 or 2009 for the US.

No more official pictures.

the infiniti g35 (the skyline v35 rebadged in the US as an infiniti) is out now...coupe and sedan, i dont know for sure when the gtr model will be out.

I already know of the G35... but it is not the GTR!

I hope the new GTR will be TT and not NA! I wonder how much it will cost?

the GTR will...and always has been a twin turbo, you can count on that when the g35 GTR model comes out. no gtr in skyline history has been naturally asperated.

The first two GT-Rs were normally aspirated. Both generations, the 1969 C10 "Hakosuka," and the 1972 C110 GT-Rs used the S20 2L I6 with 160hp.

Edit: PRice could be around $70k. CEO Ghosn wants to keep the GT-R affordable, with a good performance value. A price of $70k would be mean good value for the 911 Turbo-rivalling performance the GT-R is supposed to offer.

o! i didnt know the first two were NA. i assumed all gtr's were all TT because thats the way theyve been for the past 25 years.

$70K??? Holy-Shit! That's alot! I can't even afford the Subaru STI right-now! I hope they at least price it at $35-$40k... I may be able to afford that by '07-'09! I seen some concept GTR R35 pix but I thought that became what the G35/V35 is now? Are they still working off that concept I wonder? I don't remember what web-sight that was on but I believe it mentioned it had a V8? I'm not picky here so I will even take the NA V8 GTR if that is what it becomes!!!

Here's an interesting link... It's not the same-one I stumbled on before... but it has some interesting photos (is that a LHD GTR?) and some vague info (V6 TT engine?)...

click here (http://www.conceptcarz.com/folder/vehicle.asp?car_id=4034&autoShowID=&vehicleTypeID=0)

I think if NISSAN kept the price reasonable ($35K-$40K) they may have a next big seller! They won't even have to worry about 350Z sales if the two cars are DIVERSE and different enough...

I hope they at least price it at $35-$40k...

That would be impossible. The G35 Coupe is already in that range.

Considering what you would be getting, $70k would be a bargain. The GT-R will definitely be on par with the 996 Turbo(over $120k), and possibly even the 997 whenever it comes out. You're basically getting 911 Turbo performance for the price of a 911 Carrera. That's a fantastic value, no matter how you look at it.

I think if NISSAN kept the price reasonable ($35K-$40K) they may have a next big seller! They won't even have to worry about 350Z sales if the two cars are DIVERSE and different enough...

You may not have to worry about 350Z sales, but what about the G35 Coupe?

Oh, and there was no GT-R 25 years ago. From 1977 through 1988, there was not GT-R in the Skyline lineup. The turbo GT-Rs didn't make an appearance until 1989 when the R32 GT-R came around.

This sucks cause it will be in the 60-70 range for sure, its always been expensive and with the features it will be presumed to have, I wouldnt be surprised if they would sell it in the 90k range. The 350z is already at 35k, and with the nismo r-tune kit, its tipping 50k already, so the next gtr might as well be worth 100k with the nismo kits lol. I would love to see it in the 30k range, but frankly its a dream--not possible. Unless it wants to compete with the evo, sti ranges, it might work out well I suppose. The gtr has been always for crazy and dedicated buyers. Thus its rarity concurs its price, its all in agreement. Something so rare cannot be sold so cheap lol. :smile: ...

It's not really rarity that will make the GT-R expensive. It's the amount of work and money that are going into it.

Having Cosworth build a different, stronger version of the VQ isn't cheap, nor is getting the chassis and handling setup taken care of by Lotus.

With a projected power figure of 480ps(~473hp), the GT-R won't even be in the same class as the STi and Evo. The GT-R is moving up to the 'junior league' supercars, with the likes of the 911 Turbo, 360CS and Lamborghini Gallardo in terms of performance. To do that, the GT-R's price will go up, but not even close to the price level of the competition.

I just don't see a NISSAN going for $70-$90K in the US... I mean it would be worth it but I just don't wanna pay that much and no-one else in the US does... y'know? Which of you guys is that 'rich'??? Who knows... I guess will see when it finally arrives?

Considering what you would be getting, $70k would be a bargain. The GT-R will definitely be on par with the 996 Turbo(over $120k), and possibly even the 997 whenever it comes out. You're basically getting 911 Turbo performance for the price of a 911 Carrera. That's a fantastic value, no matter how you look at it


Keep in mind that the TT 300ZX was priced in between $35-$40K and was major competition for the pricey TURBO PORSCHE in it's day! It would not surprise me if NISSAN continued this trend and priced it for $50K... this would be smart on NISSAN'a behalf considering it would compete with the new 'Vette and Porsche which range about $90K....

Keep in mind that the TT 300ZX was priced in between $35-$40K and was major competition for the pricey TURBO PORSCHE in it's day! It would not surprise me if NISSAN continued this trend and priced it for $50K... this would be smart on NISSAN'a behalf considering it would compete with the new 'Vette and Porsche which range about $90K....

The new corvette is gonna be around 90k ???? could this be true ? the current corvette sells for as low as $44,635 so if the new vette really is 90k then its never gonna sell.

Keep in mind though that people pay $80,000 for an Acura NSX. That car doesn't have nearly the speed of the GTR, and the handling is debatably not as good either. The car's interior is also unchanged since the 1980's. But people still buy them.

So Nissan may just decide to compete with it and the Porsche by offering an "Infiniti GTR". Remember, Nissan already offers the VQ Skyline in America under the Infiniti nameplate, and I don't see any reason they won't do the same with the GTR. After all, most Americans wouldn't dream of paying $80,000 for a Nissan, but they'll pay it for an Infiniti....go figure.

Just means that us enthusiasts will have to spend a couple hundred more rebadging the entire vehicle. :biggrin:

No, the new Corvette won't be priced any higher than it is now. Mechanically it's going to be nearly identical to the current C5 Corvette. Anybody that tells you it's going to be priced at $90,000 is full of...yeah.

I thought the the 'Vette was going for $70K-$90K depending on options??? My mistake I guess...

My bad... The Z06 is going for $58K... sorry for the misinformation!

Keep in mind that the TT 300ZX was priced in between $35-$40K and was major competition for the pricey TURBO PORSCHE in it's day!

Ummm, how about no? The 993 Turbo was much faster than the Z32(0-60mph as low as 3.9 secs). The Porsche was more expensive too(well over $100k), but both cars were targeting different customers.

Keep in mind though that people pay $80,000 for an Acura NSX...But people still buy them.

So Nissan may just decide to compete with it and the Porsche by offering an "Infiniti GTR". After all, most Americans wouldn't dream of paying $80,000 for a Nissan, but they'll pay it for an Infiniti....go figure.


Exactly. Nissan has already faced this problem with the GT-R before. In the UK, it was priced only a few hundred pounds less than the 996 Carerra. Of course, consumers decided to spend their £50k on the Porsche, rather than a Nissan, despite the fact that performance was nearly identical. Porsche was able to sell hundreds of 911s in one year, while only 54 GT-Rs were sold.

In the US, where people are even more badge-conscious, Nissan would not be able to sell a $70k car. Look at the VW Phaeton. People aren't about to spend $94k on a Volkswagen, whether it has a W12 motor or not. Do you think the $90k NSX would have sold as a Honda? Maybe, but not as well as it did(still not many) under the Acura badge. If the GT-R is going to sell in the US, it'll have to be an Infiniti. It'll be hard enough to move 'em out that way, and it would be sheer suicide to sell the car as a Nissan.

Ummm, how about no? The 993 Turbo was much faster than the Z32(0-60mph as low as 3.9 secs). The Porsche was more expensive too(well over $100k), but both cars were targeting different customers.

Okay maybe that is a lil' far-fetched? The TT Z had like a 5.2 0-60. But it was an affordable sports-car! I think the Z was probably more of a 'Vette-Killer...

Anyhow... I think NISSAN has something in it's hands if the cost for the NEW GTR is no more than $50K... but if it's $35-$40k that would be perfect! I think the GTR's in Japan were priced at about $50K (US) in Japan? No?

Okay maybe that is a lil' far-fetched? The TT Z had like a 5.2 0-60. But it was an affordable sports-car! I think the Z was probably more of a 'Vette-Killer...

The Z32 wasn't really a "'Vette killer," either. More like "Keeps up with a 'Vette for a little while, if you're a good driver-er." The old ZR-1s, with their Lotus-engineered, quad-cam, 5.7L, 405hp LT5 V8s would have seen them off without a problem.

Anyhow... I think NISSAN has something in it's hands if the cost for the NEW GTR is no more than $50K... but if it's $35-$40k that would be perfect! I think the GTR's in Japan were priced at about $50K (US) in Japan? No?

Nissan would have zero profits on their hands if the price was no more than $50k. Maybe not zero, but hardly enough to merit producing the GT-R in the first place.

The Infiniti G35 Coupe already comes close to $40k. Offering a GT-R for that much would be next to impossible. Yes, the R34 GT-Rs, when new, were supposedly about $50k USD. However, this new GT-R is very different, not only using more technology, but more advanced technology. Electrically assisted turbos, a normally-aspirated "mode," dry-sump lubrication, electromagnetic all-wheel-drive, Cosworth-built engine blocks, and a Lotus-tuned suspension aren't cheap.

Where do you get your info-? Tell me more....!

Here's a thread at another forum. Lots of info there.

Freshalloy Forums-GTR: From Concept to Production (http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB4&Number=67547649&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)

There was a picture of a Skyline Coupe rigged up to be a GT-R mule. Hopefully it's still up. There were cooling vents in the hood(for the turbo powerplant?), and a large wing. The mule was spotted outside Lotus HQ in Hethel, UK. That would lend credit to the rumor that Lotus would be helping develop the GT-R.

Crazy-Stuff... thanks for the link! I wonder why they used the V35? I wonder if it will be similar?

they switched from an inline 6 to a v6. i guess they wanted more muscle to it, although i always thought the inline was better...

Crazy-Stuff... thanks for the link! I wonder why they used the V35? I wonder if it will be similar?

The most recent GT-Rs have just been modified versions of the standard Skyline coupe. The next GT-R will probably be no different.

The current Skyline Coupe's variant of the FM platform offers the best as far as having a wider track than the Skyline sedan, and a longer wheelbase(for more stable handling) than the 350Z.

they switched from an inline 6 to a v6. i guess they wanted more muscle to it, although i always thought the inline was better...

The RB couldn't keep up with Japan's changing emissions regs. The VQ is much cleaner, and will be emissions compliant just about anywhere. If Nissan kept the RB, the US would probably miss out on this version of the GT-R as well. The VQ's larger displacement will provide more torque, and the aluminum block will save a lot of weight(200lbs+).

Well... $70K is alot of money still! I won't be able to afford that! I'm better off buying a used R32-33 GTS with a RB25DET.... for $20K-$30K...

I just don't see a NISSAN going for $70-$90K in the US... I mean it would be worth it but I just don't wanna pay that much and no-one else in the US does... y'know? Which of you guys is that 'rich'??? Who knows... I guess will see when it finally arrives?
Hrm, you mean to tell me you haven't seen a 90k acura[nsx], why couldn't it be a nissan? I seriously doubt it would make any difference, and it might even be badged as an infiniti, you never know. Im not rich, blimey im not even old enough to drive yet--3 more months; but I do hope that I go to the uni, get my degree and put myself in debt just to drive the beast. If push comes to shove and it doesn't come to the states as expected, so be it, I will waste even more money on trying to import it lol. I will then waste more on modifications and maintenance.
:naughty: :evillol:

Well... $70K is alot of money still! I won't be able to afford that! I'm better off buying a used R32-33 GTS with a RB25DET.... for $20K-$30K...
same here, but I couldn't porbably even afford that lol.