someone wants to race me in:

2001 camero ss stock
and
an older eagal talon awd turbo


I have a 95 mr2 with 3sgte gen2 swap and apexi intake other then that its stock.


think i'll have a shot at these cars?

You left out what kind of work those other cars have.
Regardless, whether or not a car is faster does not gaurantee a win.
There are other factors driver's ability and reaction time.

There really is little benefit to theorizing on the Internet about who will win.
It's like talking about playing with your self.
It's only really fun if you go do it.

... how about you go race 'em and tell us how you did? :)

Who cares who will win. Just race them! = ) Anyways with just an intake and the rest stock you will lose. If all drivers are equal then they should take you. You have a better chance against the talon but with mods those cares are fast. Remember a talon/eclipse awd with intake filter, dp, exhaust and boost controller would run 12s easily. Yeah, let us know what happens after you race! = )

yeah man these guys know what their talking about. Its all on the drivers. Good Luck!

cool i'll let you know. The camero is stock and the talon i'm pretty sure is stock except for intake, and exhaust. we'll see :)

In reality, given "normal people" ... anything can happen.

cool so excluding the driver which is the fastest car?

in totally stock form, the camaro eats you both and hangs your eyeballs from his rearview mirror as a reminder

Matt

haha no way :D my shits stock and its fast.

well I guess I have a swap, and an apexi power intake but that's not really that much. still really fast heh

The Camaro does have more 1/4 performance right out of the box.

The Talon should be slightly slower than you, EXCEPT they will have an easier time launching since they have AWD.

haha no way :D my shits stock and its fast.

Your car is only fast because of how slow it was before. lol. Trust me, when went from a volvo 940 to a maxima. I thought the max was fast. Then i got my 240sx and i thought the 240 was fast. then i got my eclipse and thought my 240 was slow. Then i modded my eclipse and was like WAO. my mr2 felt like a slow pos compared to my eclipse even i ran 13.4 in the mr2. to make a long story short, with your car being stock with just the jdm motor, i would agree with the other guy. the camaro ss would rape you both and never look back. Good drive or not, if that camaro is an automatic, all he has to do is stomp on the gas and you guys are done for. the eclipse/talon has a traction advantage. with just intake and exhuast he will not pose a threat, only off the line but if he has a boost controller then you guys are done. ok enough internet racing, go race for real now! lol

91dx, if you think the apexi power intake makes your stock car fast, ride in hydes car. your car will probably run high mid to high 13s, low 14s. ride in a 12 or 11 sec mr2 and you wont want to get back into your car. = )

Your car is only fast because of how slow it was before. lol. Trust me, when went from a volvo 940 to a maxima. I thought the max was fast. Then i got my 240sx and i thought the 240 was fast. then i got my eclipse and thought my 240 was slow. Then i modded my eclipse and was like WAO. my mr2 felt like a slow pos compared to my eclipse even i ran 13.4 in the mr2. to make a long story short, with your car being stock with just the jdm motor, i would agree with the other guy. the camaro ss would rape you both and never look back. Good drive or not, if that camaro is an automatic, all he has to do is stomp on the gas and you guys are done for. the eclipse/talon has a traction advantage. with just intake and exhuast he will not pose a threat, only off the line but if he has a boost controller then you guys are done. ok enough internet racing, go race for real now! lol


haha I believe that my car's only fast because of how slow my OTHER car was!! I drove a Honda go figure :lol:

91dx, if you think the apexi power intake makes your stock car fast, ride in hydes car. your car will probably run high mid to high 13s, low 14s. ride in a 12 or 11 sec mr2 and you wont want to get back into your car. = )



yea we talk when he's on aim most the time so I know my cars def not anywhere close to that one or any other semi modded car for that matter. That's cool though all in due time :)

haha I believe that my car's only fast because of how slow my OTHER car was!! I drove a Honda go figure :lol:

hey man whats wrong with honda? i still drive a honda and although i love my mr2, i pay respect to my 90 accord. And besides, although in most cases honda's are all show and no go, there are many fast hondas out there, especially the ones that look really beat up... heh. Can someone say cheesefrog's civic hatch? But anyways back to the main topic, i dun think you should race the camaro since it'd be pointless, its like playing basket ball with a 12year old, its just not fair. The DSM should be a good race 1/4 or highway, but if it were me in your shoes, i take it on the highway!

cool i'll have mods monday so then i'm pretty sure they're both screwed, and just to clear things up my honda crx si was stock so no pun intended on all hondas :) my car once had a b16a with a ton of internal work in a 91 hatch so it was pretty spunky and like you said the junky lookin ones usually own lol mine looked like crap to. www.cardomain.com/id/ricerex thats the site to it heh

if you want to learn about fast hondas go to
http://www.theoldone.com

i've also seen a 575fwhp prelude, it was awesome

basically any car can be fast, just depends on how much cash you want to put into it, so pick a car you like the looks of, then worry about making it fast :-)

Matt

yea it takes a ton of money to make a honda fast lol but i like hondas i didn't mean anything bad I just ment my car feels super fast cause i went from driving a stock crx si into a turbo mr2 thats all

i personally drive a 91 prelude and it is anything but fast, however, that's not why i bought it :-)

4 wheel steering. 'nuff said

Matt

yea it takes a ton of money to make a honda fast lol but i like hondas i didn't mean anything bad I just ment my car feels super fast cause i went from driving a stock crx si into a turbo mr2 thats all

it take a lot of money only depending on where you spend it. i have a honda civic and driving that thing i have no idea why anyone would try to race it, without doing a motor swap and going turbo. but thats not why i have that car either? $385 insurance for the year and i can put 87 octane and still get 37mpg! lol. for you to take the camaro, you need atleast a boost controller and afc or something, and dont forget to unlpug the factory boost sensor so you wont hit boost cut.

I'm getting new stuff Monday. I raced last nite(http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=197550) and my muffler came loose or got a small hole or somthing. So yea upgrades coming. Read! lol peace

make sure you dont get ripped off. u can email me privately if you want and ill see what i can do for you. eloy@rpipower.com

they're one of the most repable places in the mid-west. You know JekylandHyde? He referred me so I trust them. Anyway thanks for the offer though I appericiate it. If I didn't find them already i'd def hit you up. I'll chat with you on aim

i know this is abusing 91dx's thread but a question for roll hard, where did you get those snorkel's (or whatever they are called) for the MR2? I have never seen them before, and if you do make them, i might be interested.

HondaChili, they are called "Tom's Scoops" ... the original ones form Japan are extrememly exspensive, but there are lots of coppies running aorund the U.S.

Check out EBAY, the MR2 classifieds (http://mr2.xcars.com/) and the MR2 Board's for sale sections.

They should run you around $100 each used ... $150 new.

well turns out I am unable to get in for two weeks because they just recently moved to a new location and changed there name etc. It's going to be really cool they said but it'a taken a lil longer than expected. That's ok with me I have no problem with waiting. Maybe I can even catch up some cc bills hehe :D I'll let you guys know when I get my upgrades. peace

i know this is abusing 91dx's thread but a question for roll hard, where did you get those snorkel's (or whatever they are called) for the MR2? I have never seen them before, and if you do make them, i might be interested.

I no longer have them. I sold them a while back. If you see those pictures they are old. I have the Doluck ones now. http://www.rpipower.com/mr212.jpg Those are the Doluck ones that i have now. they are about $700 from japan, but can now get them in the USA. There are a lot of copies of the Toms scoop but good luck trying to get them to fit. You will probably have problems trying to open your engine lid. I went with these because the Doluck ones because they actually have an air channel within the scoop that directs air. I have a temp sensor at the intake and it does drop a few degrees while i drive. dont ever get stuff from erubuni or vis, etc. all those replica kits are crap and you will end up paying more for the body shop to get it to work than you would have to pay more for the real stuff. good luck !

they look nice I might pick a pair of those up in the future.