so what are some easy cheap upgrades?

youngvr4 · 02-22-2004, 06:13 AM

i need to know cause from what i'm seeing for a 2000 camaro ss everything is over $600 and how much is this stuff to install? what can i do to run 12's like 12.5 in the 1/4 how much will it run me, it seems that i takes more to get these things movin into the 12's. i know some of you might say they do run 12's, but for the most part they run more like 13.5. will it take me 3grand just to take off 1 second off my 1/4 mile or what?

and my friend will be getting his 2000 Z28 in about 2 weeks what does he need to do to get in the 12's. mind you, i dont know much about these cars, i just bought a camaro mag and the parts to add to your car are expensive most parts are thousands, or maybe i just looked in the wrong book, feed me knowledge

Zwrangler · 02-22-2004, 12:08 PM

so I'm confused. you don't want to spend over $600 on parts but you want a car that runs in the 11's and 12's ????

Nos alone would shave around a second off your 1/4 mile time and thats no where near around 3 grand. Also, getting a camaro ss into the 11's is very possible. I went to my local drag races three nights ago and there was a camaro ss (98-02) that ran in the 11's. As far as i could hear it wasn't turbocharged or supercharged but it did have a shot of nos. for 3 grand i'm not sure you can get your car into the 11's but you should get pretty damn close, i'd estimate around mid to low 12's with a shot of nos and a few extra goodies.

Skid · 02-22-2004, 02:41 PM

in the February 04 CAR CRAFT is an article about Lincoln Tech getting a stock LS1 down to mid 12's. No cam change, headwork, or internal engine work, but it did take close to $3000 in parts. it aint cheap

89IROC&RS · 02-22-2004, 06:46 PM

yeah man, welcome to the car hobby, speed aint cheap, regardless of what anyone tels you. nos is the best bet for that price range, but with that money, you could put on some ported heads, and a cam,(well have yours ported anyway) and run low 13's high 12s im pretty sure.

youngvr4 · 02-23-2004, 12:20 AM

i always hear about people blowing there engines with nitrous, and yeah i'm not looking for 11's just 12's

Hypsi87 · 02-23-2004, 12:36 AM

125 HP shot is the the max I would to to a stock LS1. I would also get a wet shot, I don't trust the MAF to do all the fuel metering for something as destructive as Nitrous

89IROC&RS · 02-23-2004, 10:13 PM

EVENESSENCE KICKS ASS... and damn shes hot

has anyone noticed that singer chicks have very talented mouths????

but yeah anyway back on subject, nitrous when used intellegently is perfectly safe. just do like hypsi said on the 125 shot and wetflow. use your head, read up on the subjet, and you should be fine.

youngvr4 · 02-24-2004, 03:48 AM

thanks you guys.

whats the best exhaust to get and best intake to get?

koeb$ · 02-24-2004, 11:18 AM

dont call nitrious NOS damn it...but yea your not running 12's or 11's unless you dig a little deeper into your wallet

Hypsi87 · 02-24-2004, 11:41 AM

to get 12's on an LS1 is not hard. Get an airbox, better flowing exhaust, and a higer stall converter. Also have to learn how to drive the thing. we just put a stall converter on my buddys car. he ran a 13.2 with the stock one. I bet $100 that it will run high 12 this summer.

sykotic1 · 02-24-2004, 01:39 PM

Everyone wishes they could get more power for cheap. Whenever I talk to old motor heads they make it seem like you need to put 10k into an engine and beef up every part of the car to make it into a streetable monster. Well look guys, you're the same as us kids except 20-30 years older and it's a little easier for you to dish out thousands of dollars than it is for us, and infact in the spirit of the classic muscle I would think that the emphasis would not be "it doesnt matter how much it costs if you want the power you dont ask that just dish out the money and do it", it should be more like "learn how to do things yourself with someone knowledgeable to help you along". that's one thing that really steems me too. no, i dont have five thousand to just go buy an ls1 and get it decked out to hell so i can beat everyone on the street. im lookin at rebuilding my engine right now and it really does suck because most of the money isnt even in the damn parts its in the labor. people around here want a thousand bucks just to take an engine out and put it back in, plus the time it takes to install parts and your lookin at a lot of money man. now sure i know what people are gonna come back at me with, "oh well thats cuz it takes a lot of expirience and knowledge to do that kind of work". are you kidding me? im a computer techy myself, it takes a lot of expirience and knowledge (in the eyes of you older folks at my local college) to hand code a website, but anyone who takes the time to LEARN it and work with the basic tools can develop the skills they need to do virtually any kind of high end web coding in a simple notepad program! its funny how the philosophy of doing things yourself goes out the window when someone has the opportunity of making a lot of money.

DevoutWankelist · 02-24-2004, 01:57 PM

Theres a big fundamental difference between mechanics working on cars and people typing. . .
Instead of bitching about paying so much why dont you learn how to do it yourself? (Maybe then you'll understand why they want so much eh?)

youngvr4 · 02-24-2004, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DevoutWankelist

Theres a big fundamental difference between mechanics working on cars and people typing. . .
Instead of bitching about paying so much why dont you learn how to do it yourself? (Maybe then you'll understand why they want so much eh?)

i was sorta thinkin the same thing.

sykotic1 · 02-24-2004, 04:29 PM

hah tell that to the older folks taking tech courses at virtually any college across the country. most of em would rather have root canal. as far as comparing mechanical labour to typing thats not fair, more-so i would compare time spent and knowledge required. as far as mechanics go i do most of the work on my cars myself, there are just some things that certain people would rather have someone else take care of. the point is $60/hour is ridiculous, and subsequently ive seen several local speed shops take a nose dive. if you couldn't notice the sarcasm in my last post the conclusion is most deffinetly to do it yourself. oh and btw speed shops are overpriced, if you guys sized down your ego for a second and lowered the price you would realize how much more business you could attract. i help a lot of people find places locally to have performance work done and most of them end up going with simple bolt-ons and a "phat stereo" because of the price. this isn't 1955 guys there's hardly any help for aspiring mechanics other than to dish out the cash unless they make some good friends at the strip, and most younger adults arent walkin round with 3k to dump into *only* the engine. ridiculous, get your heads out of your butts and realize that its not only about performance anymore and having fun the emphasis nowdays is on money and if you don't believe me i dont care because i deal with this business and the unhappy customers it creates every-single-day.

DevoutWankelist · 02-24-2004, 08:32 PM

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as far as comparing mechanical labour to typing thats not fair

That was my point... I think thats what you were doing.
not trying start an argument here. no more posting on this thread for me

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