is there difference between cold air intake and short ram intake?
i dunno what the difference (if any) is...
and the AEM V2 ...what is that? is that the cold air or the short ram?

hey dude,

the AEM V2, well i dont know the specifications, but it is just a more advance cold air system yielding about 1 more horsepower than the original cold air...and yes there is a huge diff. b/w CAI and S/R
CAI: about 21 horses to the wheels/ 5.4 lbs torque
S/R: about 6 horse and 4 lbs torque

so yeah the CAI is a lot better go with that for the extra 50 bucks... but installation is kind of a bitch...but it's worth it

-josh

CAI - Sucks air from under the car near the wheels. May suck up water when going through a puddle especially without bypass valve. More hp gain.

S/R - Easier installation. "May" loose hp because may take in hot air from engine bay.

hey dude,


CAI: about 21 horses to the wheels/ 5.4 lbs torque
S/R: about 6 horse and 4 lbs torque



:wtf:

i know k20's respond well to mods...but 20+ horses to the wheels from an intake alone is insane. I mean...its hard enough getting 20 to the wheels from a complete i/h/e setup.

somebody explain :screwy:

:wtf:

i know k20's respond well to mods...but 20+ horses to the wheels from an intake alone is insane. I mean...its hard enough getting 20 to the wheels from a complete i/h/e setup.

somebody explain :screwy:

I wanted to say the same thing but I wasnt too sure how much hp the I/H/E combo will add to the K20. I was thinking more like 10-15 hp to the wheels with the I/H/E.

there was a magazine review of CAI for the rsx - s and the AEM put out 20.7 to the wheels the best overall!

where do you think i came out with that number... just making up the decimal places??

well take it easy

josh

Any link to it? What magazine? What month?

it was in Import Tuners MAY 2003...they did a test on 10 or so different intake systems and AEM came out on top by about 1 horse on the DC Sports...

ps...how do you guys get your pic of your car on here, and all of your mods and stuff...just to let others know how badass your car is?

thanks,

Josh

it was in Import Tuners MAY 2003...they did a test on 10 or so different intake systems and AEM came out on top by about 1 horse on the DC Sports...

ps...how do you guys get your pic of your car on here, and all of your mods and stuff...just to let others know how badass your car is?

thanks,

Josh

In your user options. In the sign. address put address in between. But first have a site host your image...like AF or imagestation.

20 horses from an intake...ur full of shit bro.
ill stop there.

20 horses from an intake...ur full of shit bro.
ill stop there.
Yeah :grinno:

I got 25(Intake) + 35(Pulley) + 25(Headers) + 25(High Ratio Rockers) + 15(Custom 2.5" Exhaust) + 3(180 Thermostat) + 3(Stiffer Motor Mounts) + 3(Header Wrap) + 3(Spark Plug Boot Protectors) +3(Weight Reduction)

So I should have 400HP!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

kinda gets my hopes up about my incoming intake ......j/k

replying to this

"20 horses from an intake...ur full of shit bro.
ill stop there."

I'm full of shit? your driving a 93 civic so.. your driving a piece of shit..

enough said...

yes you do get 20.7 horses at the wheels... it has been tested, you deusch bag!

why would i make that up...it would be pointless and a waste of my time... oh yeah my exhaust give me 30 horses...now im f/ing kidding it gives it about 4-6 SHUT UP

Here is the summation of the dyno information from the article he is talking about:

http://www.aempower.com/articles/bodyImages/58.jpg


That is amazing that an NA engine would gain that much from an intake.

He's not bullshitting you. If you were on top of your game like he is u would realize that the RSX loves cold air. In the two cold air intakes they (Honda Tuning magazine and Import Tuner) tested the AEM cold air gained a little over 20 horses TO THE WHEELS!!!! and the other cold air intake, not sure which company, i think K&N, put out 19 HP TO THE WHEELS!
And forget about forced induction.... thats a whole other story. RSX's love to be force fed. check out this company, they got some killer rsx's
www.cybernationmotorsports.com
They got a Type S run n 12 lb's of boost on STOCK internals that does 12.5 on the 1/4 mile with slicks!

He's not bullshitting you. If you were on top of your game like he is u would realize that the RSX loves cold air. In the two cold air intakes they (Honda Tuning magazine and Import Tuner) tested the AEM cold air gained a little over 20 horses TO THE WHEELS!!!! and the other cold air intake, not sure which company, i think K&N, put out 19 HP TO THE WHEELS!
Yes that is what the little picture says in the previous post. But has ANYONE dynoed their RSX with just a CAI and gained even close to 20whp? A magazine test is meaningless if nobody has shown it to be accurate.

And forget about forced induction.... thats a whole other story. RSX's love to be force fed. check out this company, they got some killer rsx's
www.cybernationmotorsports.com
They got a Type S run n 12 lb's of boost on STOCK internals that does 12.5 on the 1/4 mile with slicks!

Here are some killer GPs:

1 Scott A. Cook 1998 White 2 door GTP 10.674@129.35
2 Digital Ken 1997 Black 2 door GTP 10.954@125.97
3 Zooomer 97 1997 Red 2 door GTP 11.062@121.96
4 Ed Morad M90, dark teal GTP 2 door GTP 11.084@125.01
5 John T 1998 Black 4 door GTP 11.177@123.05 11.177@123.05
6 Chris Green 1998 Bright White 4 door MP112 GTP - 11.554@116.94 11.554@116.94
7 Scott A. Murray 1997 Jasper Green 4 door GS 11.57@117.98
8 Scott A. Cook 2000 Dark Bronzemist Bonn 4 door - 11.638 @ 117.64 11.638@117.64
9 Don Kraus 1988 Red 2 door Fiero Kit Car 11.647@114.55
10 Bridgett Meekhof 2001 Black 2 door Monte Carlo SS (CSC) 11.783@116.17
11 chad d. conklin 1999 Med. Gulf Blue 4 door Aftermath GTX M90 11.795@115.68
12 Lyle Svendsen 1986 Black/Flamed 2 door Fiero GT (L67) 11.923@114.03
13 Steve Lipowski 1998 Black 2 door GTP 12.003@114.4
14 Winston Anderson 1997 Forrest Green/Flamed 4 door GTP 12.133@114.92
15 Chris Yates 2000 Silvermist 4 door GTP 12.135@112.35
16 Mike Dye 1997 Black 2 door GTP 12.178@111.28
17 Doug Moretz 97 BLACK 2 door GTP 12.219@114.64
18 Bilal 1999 black 2 door GTP 12.33@111.88
19 Martin Rangel 1998 BLACK 4 door GTP 12.377@111.27
20 Matt M 1997 Black 2 door GT (Centrifugal Supercharged) 12.384@112.96
21 John Schiffman 2000 Black 2 door GTX 12.406@111.85
22 Luan Zeqollari 2002 Dark Cherry Metallic 2 door 40th Anniversary GTP 12.408@110.99
23 Steve Mayes 2002 40th Anniversary GTP 4 door 12.408 @ 108.27 12.408@108.27
24 Robert Timmons 97 Artic White 2 door GTP 12.4166@113.04
25 Jim Matisi 00 Galaxy Silver 2 door GTP Daytona Pace Car 12.45@109.86
26 Cory Briscoe 1986 Pewter 2 door Fiero GT 12.481@108.23
27 Chad Drexel 2001 Galaxy Myst Silver 2 door GTP w/STOCK CAM & STOCK INJECT 12.482@110.33
28 Jeff Smith 2002 Blue-Black Metallic 2 door GTP, STOCK SC,CAM,HEADS 12.487@108.6
29 Kevin Upton 2001 Navy Blue Metallic 2 door GTX 12.508@108.79
30 Mike Annecchini 1999 Santa Fe Red 4 door Regal GS 12.526 @ 109.05 12.526@109.05
31 Tom Wright 1991 Lumina L67 & 2 door 1997 GTP 12.545@108.09
32 Mike V. 1998 Arctic White 2 door GTP 12.567@106.92
33 Dave Winterhalter 97.5 Santa Fe Red Pearl 4 door GS, NON-IC 12.617@110.02
34 Douglas A. McKeown 2001 silver 2 door GTP 12.618@110.41
35 Bill Hooper 1998 White 4 door GTP Stock Hds & Exhst / Mild C 12.62@110
36 Will Mullins 1997 Black 2 door GTP 12.65@107.93
37 James Harris 1997 Metallic Teal 2 door GTP 12.65@105.21
38 Chris White 2002 Black Sapphire 2 door X-P 12.73@108.54
39 Anthony Bronzovich 2001 Navy Blue Metallic 2 door GTP 12.74@110.52
40 Osman J Nuric 2002 Redfire 4 door GTP 12.75@109
41 Kim Caim 1998 Black 4 door GTP 12.751@107.15
42 John Forshaw 1998 Black 2 door GTP 12.759@109.64
43 Frank Maisano STOCK CAM-HEADS-INJETS & S/C 1999 black 4 door Buick GS 12.776@105.14
44 Travis Thompson 1997 Black 2 door GTP 12.777@106.73 12.777@106.73
45 Leddy 12.819@106.219 2001 Navy Blue Metallic 4 door GTP
NCCGP - President 12.819@106.219
46 Rhett Castillo 1998 Black 2 door GTP 12.82@106.29
47 Jared D. 2004 Black 2 door GTO 12.824@106.55
48 Josh Peebles 1998 Black 2 door GTP 12.828@106.45
49 Scott DiVento 1997 Bright Red 4 door GTP 12.831@ 106.25 12.831@106.25
50 Stephen Guiles 1997 Black 2 door GTX 12.837@105.85
51 Miguel Irigoyen 1979 Black 2 door Grand Prix SJ 12.84@101
52 Brent & Babe Dyer,MIGPC Presidents 1997 Black 4 door GTX 12.841@106.4
53 Jason Williams 1998 Black 4 door GS 12.845@104.86
54 Gary Boehm 1987 Silver 2 door LE 12.85@109.2
55 Chris Hewitt 1998 Black 4 door GTP 12.856@107.93
56 Chris Cattie 2000 Redfire Metallic 4 door GTX 12.88@104.34
57 Chris Andrews 1999 Silvermist 2 door GTP 12.91@100
58 Alex Polash 1997 Red 4 door GTP 12.92@105.41 12.92@105.41
59 Tim Fisher 1998 Green 2 door GTP 12.934@105.84
60 FRED CAKANIC III 1998 blue 2 door DAYTONA PACE CAR#959 12.936@108.6
61 Dave Stuntz 2001 Redfire Metalic 4 door GTP 12.94@110.19
62 Rhonda Carson 1997 Dark Teal 4 door 1997 GTX 12.947@104.94
63 Zooomer 99 1999 Red 2 door GTP 12.94@105 on the motor 12.947@105
64 Rob Coppersmith 1999 Dark Forest Green 2 door GTP 12.949@104.63
65 Chrys Harast 2001 Redfire 2 door GTP 12.96@103.8
66 Paul Mercier 1998 Black 2 door GTP 12.96@106
67 Ray Adams 2000 Dark Blue Met 2 door GTP 12.98@110.9
68 Brent Matusin 2002 Galaxy-Silver 2 door GTP 12.982@104.64
69 Johnny O. 2000 NBM 2 door GTX..13.002PB-107.95PB 13.002@105.37
70 Craig Scaturro 2002 Black 2 door Monte Carlo SS 13.007@104.44
71 Jeff McDonald 2000 Silvermist 4 door GTX 13.008@101.27
72 Ryan J Frost 1998 Black 2 door GTP 13.018@107.66
73 SCOTT WITTER 1998 BLACK 2 door GTP 13.02@102
74 Nick Van Ells 1997 dark teal green meta 2 door GTP 13.025@106.73
75 Don Frate 2001 Silvermist 4 door GTP 13.036@106.18

There are plenty more who are unlisted.

I wanted to say the same thing but I wasnt too sure how much hp the I/H/E combo will add to the K20. I was thinking more like 10-15 hp to the wheels with the I/H/E.
AEM own data shows an RSX type S top gain of 12.7 HP @ 7200RPM Look at their web site

AEM own data shows an RSX type S top gain of 12.7 HP @ 7200RPM Look at their web site

Was it the S.R. or the CAI? I remember reading the Import Tuner test. They basically said that the huge gains from the CAI's suprised them too. They actually retested them a few times to make sure that their #'s were correct. Whether or not people choose to believe this, it is true.

Wasn't that the issue where they installed the intakes to where they were pointing up?? :rofl:

yes it was :thumbsup:

www.clubrsx.com did a huge dyno test on a totally stock RSX Type S, heres a link to the page, just click on one of the dyno test links there. http://performance.clubrsx.com/
Injen won over the AEM CAI and the AEM V2 as well.

Injen CAI beats all. And check the dyno's on ClubRSX, they're not 20 hp.

SRI VS CAI debate:


CAI Vs. SRI - http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=138410
CAI Vs. SRI - http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=132254
Hydrolocking in the CAI - http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=131320






Quick summary of CAI Vs. SRI

CAI Pros:
Great Gains
Won't Have Heat Soak Problems
Sounds Great

CAI Cons:
Install is a pain
More expensive
Slight chance of Hydrolock (water getting in the engine because the filter was submerged in water)


SRI Pros:
Cheap
Easy To Install
Sounds Good
Looks good (you can't see the CAI in the engine bay)
No Hydrolock risk

SRI Cons:
Less power gains
Heat soak problems

Most people choose the CAI because of those reasons.

Injen Vs. AEM? (I'm only comparing CAI's here) Well most people choose Injen (see the poll in this forum) and it also comes with the windshield washer fluid relocator bottle. They both give basically the same gains. Another thing with the Injen is that the Special ClubRSX edition Injen CAI is on sale in the ClubRSX Store.

Hydrolocking
Check the link I gave, it can happen, but chances are it isn't. You have to go into deep water for that to happen. It has happened to a few members, however.