02-03-2004, 06:49 PM
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AF Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
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92 Camry died in cold
I have a 92 camry, 4 cylinder, while driving it the other day it just died, while moving. It was the coldest day of the year (-15) and I think it may be related to the temp. The car was warm and had been running perfectly up until then. It has spark, and the check engine light did not come on. I thought maybe there was moisture in the gas, so I put some ISO-Heat in the tank and let it sit for a few days but it still won't start. It has not been above freezing since then and I don't have a warm place to put the car. I checked all the fuses i could find and the efi relay, they were all fine. I don't know if the car has a fuel pump fuse, or where the relay for it may be located. I would like to check if the pump is working but I'm not sure how, I can't hear it, but I'm not sure if I've ever been able to hear it.
Thanks for the help.
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02-03-2004, 07:16 PM
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AF Regular
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
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Re: 92 Camry died in cold
To check for fuel try cranking the engine awhile then pull one of the spark plugs and see if it is coated with fuel.If not try spraying starting fluid into the throttle body.
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02-03-2004, 08:43 PM
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AF Newbie
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Re: 92 Camry died in cold
I pulled one of the plug wires and turned the engine over for a bit then checked the plug and it was completly dry. I was also able to hear the fuel pump this time.
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02-06-2004, 10:18 PM
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AF Enthusiast
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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Died while driving it?
 The fact that the car died while you were driving it suggests an electrical problem, to me. At least, that's where I would start. Since you seem to know what you're doing, I presume you checked down around the distributer cap for loose or broken wires. I once lost a wire at the cap, and the car died just as I was rolling into my parking place. Just a thought.
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02-06-2004, 10:21 PM
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AF Enthusiast
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Electric dipstick???
Just an afterthought...if you're looking for a way to warm up the engine, you might pick up an heavy-gauge extension cord and an electric dipstick.
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02-07-2004, 10:23 PM
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AF Regular
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Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
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Re: 92 Camry died in cold
It seems that the engine is not getting fuel.Has the fuel filter been replaced lately and have you tried starting fluid?
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02-08-2004, 01:16 PM
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AF Newbie
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Re: 92 Camry died in cold
To check fuel pressure jump the B+ and FP in the diagnostic plug in the engine capartment with the ignition on and crack a fuel line. If there is no fuel pressure its the pump or wiring to the pump. I would say the pump. Good luck
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03-02-2004, 07:16 PM
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AF Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
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Re: 92 Camry died in cold
I've now let the car sit until it is definately warm enough to thaw the gas and it still won't start. All four plugs have spark and I just replaced them and the plug wires becuase they were pretty worn. It seems to be getting gas because I can smell it on the plugs when I pull them. I tried spraying starter fluid in the throttle body and it still wouldn't even pop. When I pulled the plugs after that they were full of starter fluid, so it wasn't getting burnt. I checked the timing belt and it is intact. I don't know why it won't start, could the spark be to weak to ignite the gas/starter fluid?
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03-02-2004, 07:44 PM
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Resident Chemist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Rockville, Maryland
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Re: 92 Camry died in cold
How did you check the spark?
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03-02-2004, 08:24 PM
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AF Newbie
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Re: 92 Camry died in cold
To check the spark, I pulled the plugs and rested them on the edge of the valve cover where they went into the engine and then had a friend crank the engine over. I've never checked spark on a car before, but it was a gold/orange colored spark, which seems kind of weak to me, not the hot bright blue spark I've seen on dirt bikes and snomobiles.
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03-02-2004, 11:45 PM
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Resident Chemist
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Location: Rockville, Maryland
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Re: 92 Camry died in cold
Sounds like a weak spark.
Double check all connections of ignition coil, igniter and distributor.
Check your ignition coil resistance.
Primary (+ to - terminals) - 0.36 to 0.45 ohms cold
Secondary (+ to high tension terminals) - 9.0 to 15.4 kohms cold
Check distributor air gap between signal rotor and pickup coil projection - 0.2 to 0.4 mm (0.008 - 0.016 inches)
Check pickup coil resistance - 135 to 220 ohms
Check crankshaft position sensor (remove connector from generator drive belt adjusting bar) - 985 to 1600 ohms
Replace igniter if all these are within specifications.
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