Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online!
Become a fan of Igor Sushko on Facebook!
-
Please Register or Login to access: DriverSide DriverSide Home | Service & Repair | Car Prices | Parts & Accessories | Reviews & Advice | My Garage
Google  
Web AF
See Latest Posts
Access AF from your phone - point your mobile browser to http://m.automotiveforums.com
Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Subaru > Impreza/9-2x/Outback Sport
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Email this Page Email this Page | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-29-2004, 01:35 AM   #1
FlyingFishSandwich
AF Newbie
 
FlyingFishSandwich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri
Posts: 6
FlyingFishSandwich Normal reputation
Send a message via AIM to FlyingFishSandwich Send a message via MSN to FlyingFishSandwich Send a message via Yahoo to FlyingFishSandwich
RS to WRX maby even STi

I have an 02 2.5 RS and I plan on upgrading the engine. Anything past changing the oil is going to be done by a pro so I dont screw it up, though I'd like to take an active intrest in the tweaking of my car. There is a auto shop here on base but I don't know how much i should trust them. I would like a turbo or possibly a twin turbo and all the engine mods needed to ensure that it won't blow up on me. I know there are lots of kits out there. I could go to any auto shop and have one installed but the sites won't really tell me if someone elses kit is better, so I hope that you could. I like the aps stealth front mounted intercooler. Does this rule out a twin turbo? I'm planning on building a sleeper. I don't think I'll take this car on the track, not yet at least. So its up to the type of turbo and engine mods to support the change. Thanks for any help.
FlyingFishSandwich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2004, 07:51 AM   #2
freakray
AF Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
Posts: 12,504
freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000
Re: RS to WRX maby even STi

Did you read the FAQ?

As far as going RS to WRX, that's impossible without an engine swap, the RS is a 2.5 engine whereas the WRX is a 2.0
freakray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2004, 01:11 PM   #3
03cavyTT
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Gaithersburg, Maryland
Posts: 205
03cavyTT Normal reputation
Re: RS to WRX maby even STi

2.5rs= 4cly 2.5L
WRX= 4cyl 2.0L turbo
STi= 4cyl 2.5L turbo
03cavyTT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2004, 03:20 PM   #4
Partizan
AF Enthusiast
 
Partizan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 650
Partizan Normal reputation
Re: RS to WRX maby even STi

If you'd like to convert to STi or WRX there's more than just engine work. Don't forget suspension work and other vital things.
Partizan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2004, 02:46 AM   #5
FlyingFishSandwich
AF Newbie
 
FlyingFishSandwich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri
Posts: 6
FlyingFishSandwich Normal reputation
Send a message via AIM to FlyingFishSandwich Send a message via MSN to FlyingFishSandwich Send a message via Yahoo to FlyingFishSandwich
Re: RS to WRX maby even STi

Perhaps all of you are taking the thread title too literally. To the untrained eye an RS is a WRX w/o a turbo and an STi w/o a turbo plus engine mods. Please forgive me if I have offended you. It is foolish to ask for knowledge without accepting your ignorance. This I have, and this I ask for your help in changing.

Ok so lets go indepth, I just have a general idea of what I want the car to do. I want to keep the stock apperance so no hood scoop or rear spoiler. This would require a front mounted intercooler and question 1 Can a front mounted intercooler support twin turbos in the range to beat an STi? From what I hear turbos spell the eventual death of an engine, and are far less successful, without more modifications. Pistons, cams, chips and lots of other bits and pieces that I have no idea where to put. Coming around to question 2 Whats the best turbo kit, did you get one and was it good or bad? All the research in the world can't beat some good first hand experence. On this same note I may also need suspension(though I like a smooth ride), a clutch and "other vital things." So questions 3, 4 and a 1/2 What are the best in suspensions, clutches and what else am I forgeting? Please help.
FlyingFishSandwich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2004, 08:18 AM   #6
freakray
AF Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
Posts: 12,504
freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000
Re: RS to WRX maby even STi

I think your arrogance far outweighs any ignorance I displayed.

Now like I said n00b, there is a FAQ that has a lot of information in it, that information is gleaned from the first hand experience of members here.

What else are you forgetting?
You're forgetting to be polite to the very people you're asking for help.
freakray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2004, 02:55 PM   #7
FlyingFishSandwich
AF Newbie
 
FlyingFishSandwich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri
Posts: 6
FlyingFishSandwich Normal reputation
Send a message via AIM to FlyingFishSandwich Send a message via MSN to FlyingFishSandwich Send a message via Yahoo to FlyingFishSandwich
Re: Re: RS to WRX maby even STi

Quote:
Originally Posted by freakray
I think your arrogance far outweighs any ignorance I displayed.

Now like I said n00b, there is a FAQ that has a lot of information in it, that information is gleaned from the first hand experience of members here.

What else are you forgetting?
You're forgetting to be polite to the very people you're asking for help.
Lisen I don't want to get into a flame war with you. I don't see how I was being arrogant though. I read the FAQ, it didn't answer any of my questions. I was serious in the first part of my last. "Please forgive me if I have offended you. It is foolish to ask for knowledge without accepting your ignorance. This I have(refering to me accepting my ignorance) , and this I ask for your help in changing." None of that was sarcastic, and it still applys. It seems that I did offend you and I am sorry. Once again I ask, Please help. Thank you.
FlyingFishSandwich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2004, 03:04 PM   #8
Alldar
AF Enthusiast
 
Alldar's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: A-town, Ohio
Posts: 175
Alldar
Alldar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2004, 03:12 PM   #9
FlyingFishSandwich
AF Newbie
 
FlyingFishSandwich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri
Posts: 6
FlyingFishSandwich Normal reputation
Send a message via AIM to FlyingFishSandwich Send a message via MSN to FlyingFishSandwich Send a message via Yahoo to FlyingFishSandwich
Re: RS to WRX maby even STi

Thank you Alldar this thread could use a lighter atmosphere. I'm still left with my questions though. Someone pleeeeeeeeeease help me.
FlyingFishSandwich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2004, 03:16 PM   #10
Alldar
AF Enthusiast
 
Alldar's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: A-town, Ohio
Posts: 175
Alldar
Re: RS to WRX maby even STi

man that was ment to dish you... your post makes no fucking sense.. maybe this will get my point across



lol and dont piss of freakray he is most value guy on this board for info


what exactly are you asking about... and where are you finding this twin turbo idea... a supra has twin turbo and i believe it has a FMI
Alldar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2004, 05:27 PM   #11
LjasonL
Some Guy
 
LjasonL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Paris, Arkansas
Posts: 2,695
LjasonL +250LjasonL +250LjasonL +250LjasonL +250
Send a message via AIM to LjasonL
Yes you can use a FMIC with a twin turbo. The way that would be set up most likely is the two turbos would go into a "Y" connector pipe, then into the intercooler as one pipe. Then out the other end of the intercooler and to the throttle body as one pipe. Unless you wanted to get crazy with it and build separate intake manifolds for each "side" of the engine, then oyu would be better off with 2 smaller intercoolers.

If you had read the FAQ thouroughly, you would have seen the link to www.forcedairtech.com Their Stage 4 kit is a twin turbo kit. You will need a hood scoop to use that kit. I don't know of any other mass produced twin turbo kits.

I don't really know how to answer the rest of it looks like you just need to search and read up more and do more reasearch.
LjasonL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2004, 02:18 AM   #12
FlyingFishSandwich
AF Newbie
 
FlyingFishSandwich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri
Posts: 6
FlyingFishSandwich Normal reputation
Send a message via AIM to FlyingFishSandwich Send a message via MSN to FlyingFishSandwich Send a message via Yahoo to FlyingFishSandwich
Re: RS to WRX maby even STi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alldar
man that was ment to dish you... your post makes no fucking sense.. maybe this will get my point across



lol and dont piss of freakray he is most value guy on this board for info


what exactly are you asking about... and where are you finding this twin turbo idea... a supra has twin turbo and i believe it has a FMI
Mother Angelica? Well it seems god is the only one who understands what I'm saying. Once again I must laugh even though you are "dish"ing me. I know the Impreza doesn't have a twin turbo I'm planning on adding one.


Quote:
Originally Posted by ldelaysionl
Yes you can use a FMIC with a twin turbo. The way that would be set up most likely is the two turbos would go into a "Y" connector pipe, then into the intercooler as one pipe. Then out the other end of the intercooler and to the throttle body as one pipe. Unless you wanted to get crazy with it and build separate intake manifolds for each "side" of the engine, then oyu would be better off with 2 smaller intercoolers.

If you had read the FAQ thouroughly, you would have seen the link to www.forcedairtech.com Their Stage 4 kit is a twin turbo kit. You will need a hood scoop to use that kit. I don't know of any other mass produced twin turbo kits.

I don't really know how to answer the rest of it looks like you just need to search and read up more and do more reasearch.
Y connectors eh? It's crazy enough to work. I read the faq very throughly and I also mentioned in my earlier posts that a hood scoop won't work since I'm making a sleeper. I also said that the internet won't tell you whos stuff is better so I must ask those who have tried the stuff out, this is my research. Thank you very much though, you have been most helpful, without insulting me much. Now it's down to what parts to buy, I'll keep it simple.

1 Who makes the best turbos?
2 Who makes the best engine upgrade kits?
3 Who makes the best equipment for suspensions?
4 Who makes the best clutches?

If you don't have an answer, PLEASE don't post in this thread THANK YOU.
FlyingFishSandwich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2004, 12:05 PM   #13
Alldar
AF Enthusiast
 
Alldar's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: A-town, Ohio
Posts: 175
Alldar
Re: RS to WRX maby even STi

hell the scoop is the best way to go... way less lag... less shit to clean out of it... and so on... just get a scoop any idiot will think its just one of the flash old 2.5RSes
Alldar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2004, 12:34 PM   #14
freakray
AF Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
Posts: 12,504
freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000freakray +1000
Re: RS to WRX maby even STi

Crap, I just typed up a long reply for you giving you ideas on what to do, then I saw your "if you don't have an answer don't reply" line and decided against helping you.
This is a public message board and everyone is free to reply, YOU don't have the right to dictate who may and may not post in a thread.

Thanks for the compliment Alldar, I really think Idelaysional has better knowledge than I do though.
freakray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2004, 12:55 PM   #15
LjasonL
Some Guy
 
LjasonL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Paris, Arkansas
Posts: 2,695
LjasonL +250LjasonL +250LjasonL +250LjasonL +250
Send a message via AIM to LjasonL
Re: Re: RS to WRX maby even STi

Quote:
Originally Posted by freakray
Thanks for the compliment Alldar, I really think Idelaysional has better knowledge than I do though.
Nah... you have your areas, I have mine. Turboing a 2.5 is just one of the things I've put a lot of thought and research into
LjasonL is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
 
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD


Bookmarks
Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Subaru > Impreza/9-2x/Outback Sport

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:14 AM.

Google  
Web AF
Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
no new posts