pick who would win 1/4mile then post who would come in 2nd 3rd and 4th.

350z
Srt-4
S2000
Rx8

srt4
350z
s2000
rx8


although there is a chance that the s2000 could beat the 350z but im not sure. but i know theres a chance.

The lowest stock time for an SRT-4 is a high 13, lowest for 350Z is 13.69. Lowest for S2000 is a mid 14, RX8 high 14.

350Z
SRT-4
S2000
RX8

The lowest stock time for an SRT-4 is a high 13, lowest for 350Z is 13.69. Lowest for S2000 is a mid 14, RX8 high 14.

350Z
SRT-4
S2000
RX8



all the number we find in mags. are done by the pros, also on tv shows, but there also human and the weather condition could be different there is so many factors of how a car complete a 1/4 mile i've seen times for an evo range from 12.8 sec to 14.5 sec. and different machines depend on different things, i see no reason y a s2000 having a chance of beating a 350z, i've seen much stranger things happen with my own eyes.

Those times are not out of mags. And by prows you mean people who are writers and that get a chance to drive the car. The writers are not pros. The just have the opertunity to drive all that cars.

My times were from actual people and there cars. No magazines. The S2000 is not really that fast in the straight line. But in the corners it dominates. The 350Z is the faster of the bunch. I have seen proof. And i listed there fastest times, has nothing to do with conditions. These ar etaken from all over the world. These are the fastest times. So ya. It is that order. Teh SRT-4 is amazingly quick.

350z
srt-4
s2000
Rx8
i think some people get carried away with the srt-4. i know its a cool sx2.0 and everything and it is quick but its not like a funny car or anything. 350z should be able to beat it. the Rx8 is not all that quick and is definately last. the s2000 is a nice car(though i wouldnt want to own one) and 3rd is where it would be if you did this race over and over again you would find its mode would be 3rd

all you dumbass kids dont have a clue about anything. i HAVE an RX8 and you have no clue what kind of acceleration that car has. it is insane. for one, the rx8 is WAY faster than the 350Z. i would know this beCAUSE i have driven BOTH of the cars. the SRT-4 is a front wheel drive peice of ball bearing turbo shit. when you punch it has WAY to much wheelspin. how much horsepower do you fucking half-wit morons think the rx8 and the other cars have......YEAHHHH thats what i thought, go look it up on the fucking computer you stupid fucking kids. you probably cant tell me shit about the renesis (oh you know the fucking engine in the rx8, you know the fucking rotary!) i think i made my point here you bunch of fucking bald eagles!

Those times are not out of mags. And by prows you mean people who are writers and that get a chance to drive the car. The writers are not pros. The just have the opertunity to drive all that cars.

My times were from actual people and there cars. No magazines. The S2000 is not really that fast in the straight line. But in the corners it dominates. The 350Z is the faster of the bunch. I have seen proof. And i listed there fastest times, has nothing to do with conditions. These ar etaken from all over the world. These are the fastest times. So ya. It is that order. Teh SRT-4 is amazingly quick.


those that you call writers, have their job for a reason and as often they get to drive car i mean really drive a car its safe to call them a pro.

all you dumbass kids dont have a clue about anything. i HAVE an RX8 and you have no clue what kind of acceleration that car has. it is insane. for one, the rx8 is WAY faster than the 350Z. i would know this beCAUSE i have driven BOTH of the cars. the SRT-4 is a front wheel drive peice of ball bearing turbo shit. when you punch it has WAY to much wheelspin. how much horsepower do you fucking half-wit morons think the rx8 and the other cars have......YEAHHHH thats what i thought, go look it up on the fucking computer you stupid fucking kids. you probably cant tell me shit about the renesis (oh you know the fucking engine in the rx8, you know the fucking rotary!) i think i made my point here you bunch of fucking bald eagles!


yea renesis, it mean redesigned genesis.

I just bought an rx8 a few weeks ago, black 6speed loaded, and it is a blast to drive. The engine is so smooth and the handling is awesome, probably the best handling car that I have ever driven (i have owned 2 porsche 911's, a 944, an audi s4 quattro and a bmw z3, not to mention a boatload of others that don't compare to the handling capabilities of the mazda). I also own an infiniti G35 sedan which is close to the handling of the 8 but obviously not as fun to drive. The rx8 feels fast, but in comparison to most other cars to its class it is quite slow. the G35 would take the mazda any day in a quarter mile, but on the twisties the 8 would win hands down.

So why would anyone who knows anything about this car write a stupid thread such as this one?? Everyone knows the rx-8 doesnt match the acceleration of some other cars, but why does that matter? This car was not built for speed or horsepower, it is a great handling, everyday driving, fun to run machine. The 350z is faster, but no where near as fun to drive. the interior of the 8 is so much more refined compared to the cars.

Doug Mcgill, you are a moron. There is no way that you own an rx-8. If you show me a picture, then I will believe you, but unitl that, keep your fucking mouth shut. Yea, some of the posters on this forum are kids who don't appreciate the whole package of a car, but that is no reason to point them out and be such an ass. it may feel faster becasue of its lightweight structure and incredible handling, but numbers don't lie. The 350 could take an 8 on the strip any day, but when it comes down to which one is the better car, the mazda is a true winner. I know you don't own an rx-8, and you probably never will, so step away from the computer and go watch your pubes grow for a while.

what grade are you in Doug........9th because you sure seem to come off as a little poser. Of course the rx-8 has a rotary so what. Look at the published material on the cars.

350z hp 287
tq 274
weight 3188

RX-8 hp 238
tq 159
weight 3053

the numbers state it all. The RX-8 is a little lighter, but not enough to beat the 350z. The RX-8 may feel better than the 350z, but the 350z is faster.

The lowest stock time for an SRT-4 is a high 13, lowest for 350Z is 13.69. Lowest for S2000 is a mid 14, RX8 high 14.

350Z
SRT-4
S2000
RX8


I got 13.69 in my stock Z :bananasmi is that the time you're quoting? :naughty:

Doug McGill you must be looking to get banned cause that is what is goint to happen to you if you continue to try and start shit in these threads.

And yes igor that was the time i ment. Your time, it is quite impressive:D

honestly who cares about 1/4 mile, your not a fucking drag racer in your street car, and if you street race, go slit your own throat to save me time, and out of those four cars, the rx8,350 and s2k are all much better then srt-4, which is no fun to drive, where as the other three rwd 6 spd n/a cars are all awesome, dont put that shitty neon ricer in the same class as the other three

Rx8's only dyno 170RWHP... (my 208Hp 944 dyno's more) Also don't say there is a safty sensors on the front wheels because there is not (Some cars do have that like the E46m3) but the Rx8 doesnt... Ok, My rant on the Rx8 is over...

Hey... have you ever drive to mountain curve???

The RX8 is not for direct course!
The RX8 is construct for real drivers and NOT for childrens who read magazines!

Put that at once in your mind.

Hey this is an interesting thread.

Let me start out by saying that I think that the RX-8 is a wonderful automobile in virtually every aspect. The engine is smooth, the suspension is firm but not harsh, nothing rattles in the interior, the interior design is pleasant, it has wonderful brakes, a great 6-speed transmission, an elegant touch of oversteer when pushing the car in corners, and, (it took me a while to get used to this) a great sound! And most of all, I loved those rear doors!! After driving the car for a while, it was very difficult to get back into a regular two door car.

My only complaints with the car were the slow-reacting navigational system (it takes less time to load Photoshop 7 on a Pentium 300). Also there was some interior trim that was a little cheap, I thought. Some strange rubber-type material on the seats between the leather seemed out of place. Most of the interior was great though.

I drove the more powerful-engined version RX-8 for a total of 550 kms last weekend. (In Europe there are two engines available - the 192HP and the 231HP version.) The latter engine is rated a little higher in North America due to different ways of calculating horsepower, but it's identical to the 238HP car in N. America. The car I drove was a press car provided by Mazda Germany.

My driving experience was 100% positive, HOWEVER the car never really felt like it had over 230hp. Subjectively it felt more like a 200HP engine in a 1400kg car. The 235km/h top speed in a car with low coefficient of drag and a relatively small frontal area, confirms Mazda's slightly optimistc horsepower figures. Having said that, I would take this engine over other engines rated at 230HP, simply because it's soooo smooth, free of vibration and rev-happy. (BTW, the performance in any aspects reminded me of my ex 944 S2).

So to sum things up, I'd say that even though it's not a hotrod, and the 231 horses under the hood may be of the "small" variety, I'd still take it just because everything else in the car harmonizes so nicely. There's more to GT and sports cars than just horsepower and accelleration. Especially over here in Europe.

As for the quickest accellerating of the bunch (not that it matters): Id have to go with the 350Z, followed by the S2000 and the RX-8. I'm not familiar with the SRT, cause we don't have it here in Europe. I drove the S2000 a year ago (only for one afternoon) and didn't care much for the brakes (they got hot very quickly - especially the rear brakes), the transmission didn't take too kindly to powershifting, and the variable-rate steering took some getting used to.

Back to the RX-8: I cant wait for Mazda to introduce the RX-8 Turbo. Assuming they do (i have no idea if they plan to), it would put an end to any accelleration discussions.

Well I'm currently at day 4 of 5 days of testing the 350Z. The 350 Z is definately a quicker accellerating car. But the Nissan's V-6 lacks the smoothness of the rotary. Just like the RX-8, the 350Z has great brakes, direct steering and a great sounding exhaust system. I've noticed that the Nissan is more of an attention grabber in terms of looks. However, if I had to go out and buy one of these two cars tomorrow, I'd grab the RX-8 cause I wouldn't want to live without those innovative rear doors and two extra seats.

i think it would go down lie this
1st- 350z
2nd-s2000
3rd-srt-4
4th- the rx8

Who ever thinks that the rx8 is soooo fast is sooo wrong. I mean sure you have a right to be upset because you just got ripped off I mean you just wasted your money. I dont car what kind of acceleration you think that this car has because it dosnt. The 350z will whore this car on any given day just like the s2000 as well. As far as the srt-4 goes for about $20,000 it is well worth its money. Every turbo front wheel drive car has alot of wheel spin but the driver can learn to control that. Trust me I would know because I own one that will whore any of these cars. So until you drive a fwd boosted car you dont need to tell anyone about wheel spin

I doubt they'll release a turbocahrged 8, simply for the fact that turbo = no reliability when it comes to rotaries. That's the simple hard truth - look at what the FD 7 did to the stigma of the rotary. Most laymen think that its some novelty engine that sucks a lot of gas and breaks a lot. Well, they wouldn't be that far off in that assumption.

Now, if they came out with an aggressively styled, 4th generation RX-7, complete with a nice torubocharger, higher displacement engine (say...1.5 liters) pushing around..oh, I dunno, 320 rwhp, and handling that would put the FD to shame, THAT would be awesome. But It will never happen :(

Hey... have you ever drive to mountain curve???

The RX8 is not for direct course!
The RX8 is construct for real drivers and NOT for childrens who read magazines!

Put that at once in your mind.




my comments is not for those that read a magazine and then pertend they know it all. i'm merely saying: whats so terrible about reading a magazine, from my economical stand point thats all I have. i've driven in the mountains of PA in my grand am i'm sure that an rx8 is more fun to drive but all i have is a grand am. well maybe i just dont belong here. ohhh :whine: lol

yeah, unfortunately i feel the nissan would win this one. I'm a HUGE fan of the rotary, but I believe the RX-8 still needs some work. The car is definetly not made for the drag strip, but is very well suited for autocross. even then, the s2000 would be a very very tough competitor in that situation. The RX-8 is a great car either way, but like i said, it still needs some work.

350-z
rx-8
s2000
srt-4

I only say srt-4 last because i've seen a couple of them do the 1/4 and they peel way too much. But i assume if you are a good "off the start" racer it would be third.

350-z
rx-8
s2000
srt-4

I only say srt-4 last because i've seen a couple of them do the 1/4 and they peel way too much. But i assume if you are a good "off the start" racer it would be third.


in the strait away i think these 4 are close enough to say itll come down to the driver, handles is a different story and since this thread has nothing to do with handles i will not speak on that, but itll be close in a strait away.

now dont get me wrong, I hate neons, and the SRT-4 is just a Neon on sterroids. But the SRT-4 is VERY fast, and YES it can be compared to these cars easily.

The RX-8 is overrated, yes it is a sporty car, quite quick but the styling is just disgusting IMO and honestly it isnt that fast at all. Everyone makes this huge deal about rotaries and yet it doesnt step away from the pack. If I were Mazda, I woldve pumped more power out of the car to make the car actally fast.

honestly who cares about 1/4 mile, your not a fucking drag racer in your street car, and if you street race, go slit your own throat to save me time, and out of those four cars, the rx8,350 and s2k are all much better then srt-4, which is no fun to drive, where as the other three rwd 6 spd n/a cars are all awesome, dont put that shitty neon ricer in the same class as the other three

I happen to agree. I bought my RX-8 to DRIVE not to drag race. And the price I paid for the RX-8 (31,000 dollars) this car is PLENTY fast for me and it handles like a CHAMP!

P.S.; I love it when stupid M-Fers spend 40,000 dollars to "race kit" their Honda Civics...just to get dusted by a stock car. Plus can they take a sharp curve at 50 mph in second gear??? Probably not. LATE!

now dont get me wrong, I hate neons, and the SRT-4 is just a Neon on sterroids. But the SRT-4 is VERY fast, and YES it can be compared to these cars easily.

The RX-8 is overrated, yes it is a sporty car, quite quick but the styling is just disgusting IMO and honestly it isnt that fast at all. Everyone makes this huge deal about rotaries and yet it doesnt step away from the pack. If I were Mazda, I woldve pumped more power out of the car to make the car actally fast.

Dude...are you serious?? You actually bought a Neon SRT? I would never admit to owning a Plymouth and saying it's comparable to a RX-8. Your interior is weak...the car cannot handle like the Mazda and YES it's STILL a NEON. Them NEONS remind me of the Hyundai Excels from the early ninetys. EVERYBODY had one...and you got a sport version...hahahaha!

dude, your high school is calling, they want their diploma back. Read it again, I never ONCE in that post said i own an SRT-4. On the contrary I said I hate neons. :screwy:

I happen to agree. I bought my RX-8 to DRIVE not to drag race. And the price I paid for the RX-8 (31,000 dollars) this car is PLENTY fast for me and it handles like a CHAMP!

P.S.; I love it when stupid M-Fers spend 40,000 dollars to "race kit" their Honda Civics...just to get dusted by a stock car. Plus can they take a sharp curve at 50 mph in second gear??? Probably not. LATE!


ok i dont think you know what you are talking about, any v-tec engine can be modded with i'll say $15 grand and it'll out run 80% of all the worlds stock cars.

I happen to agree. I bought my RX-8 to DRIVE not to drag race. And the price I paid for the RX-8 (31,000 dollars) this car is PLENTY fast for me and it handles like a CHAMP!

P.S.; I love it when stupid M-Fers spend 40,000 dollars to "race kit" their Honda Civics...just to get dusted by a stock car. Plus can they take a sharp curve at 50 mph in second gear??? Probably not. LATE!

I actually personally know a guy that has put approx. 25Gs into his Civic. He runs 24lbs of boost and on the dyno he pulled out 480hp. In the quarter he runs mid-to-low 12s... tell me a stock car that can do 12s out of the box... Im sure there are a few.. but not under 100Gs thats for sure.

I personally dont believe you have an RX8, you sound like a 16 year old with nothing better to do than BS half the world that doesnt give two shits about what you drive.

350Z
SRT-4
S2000
RX-8

I have to say the 350Z would probably win. Although it would deffinately come down to the driver. Both the 350Z and the SRT-4 are rated at 14.0 from the factory. I hate neons, but the SRT-4's are fast as hell. I watched one pull a 13.8 pretty much stock with only better tires and a couple hundred bucks put into it in mods. And they are an AWD car by the way not Front Wheel Drive. But I do agree that all of the other cars are in a different class than the peon, uhh I mean neon. If I were to buy one, it would deffinately be the nissan.

Oh and by the way, if you drop 25k into a car and it can only pull 12's, thats pretty pathetic. Props to Igor on that 13.69 STOCK. If your gonna drop that kind of money in a car why not just get a real car.

uhhh he made his car as an all around racecar, but thanx for coming out :naughty:

He also has a sick soundsystem in it to now that i think about it. But either way, the car cost him about the same a an RSX type-S or whatever and is way faster and IMO a lot cooler

Oh and by the way, if you drop 25k into a car and it can only pull 12's, thats pretty pathetic. Props to Igor on that 13.69 STOCK. If your gonna drop that kind of money in a car why not just get a real car.


his point was that to find a car that can run low 12's is gonna cost you more the let's say $32grand, 25grand for mods and 7grand for a vtec civic. a real car thats a matter of opinion. i'd much rather have a civic for tunning verses any mustang. just my OPINION of course.

uhhh he made his car as an all around racecar, but thanx for coming out :naughty:

He also has a sick soundsystem in it to now that i think about it. But either way, the car cost him about the same a an RSX type-S or whatever and is way faster and IMO a lot cooler

i like sickning fast econo cars

yea, I would be a lot more proud to say I have a 12 second civic that I put a lot of time into, than to buy a car that is fast. If you buy a Ferarri, all that shows is that you have money, if you can make a Civic as fast as a Ferarri, now THAT is something. Plus Im 18, and cant afford to buy a 12 second stock car... while if you work on a car over the years, 12s are attainable.

NB: Im using a Civic as an example cuz they're slow... feel free to re-read that paragraph replacing the word 'Civic' with any cheap non-sports car you wish.

yea, I would be a lot more proud to say I have a 12 second civic that I put a lot of time into, than to buy a car that is fast. If you buy a Ferarri, all that shows is that you have money, if you can make a Civic as fast as a Ferarri, now THAT is something. Plus Im 18, and cant afford to buy a 12 second stock car... while if you work on a car over the years, 12s are attainable.

NB: Im using a Civic as an example cuz they're slow... feel free to re-read that paragraph replacing the word 'Civic' with any cheap non-sports car you wish.


like an 02 4banger grand am?

yea thats perfect... keep it looking really stock and make it a sleeper... the way I look at it, rust is just a cheap form of weight reduction :iceslolan

hehe my MX3 is about to go under the knife. By mid-august, she will be running mid 14s and it will look completely stock. Its gonna be beautiful :lol: Can you say bye-bye VR6? :smokin:

You guys thought the 350z was faster in the 1320? I looked in two sources (Road and Track and Car and Driver) both said the S2000 was faster, although not by much.

yea thats perfect... keep it looking really stock and make it a sleeper... the way I look at it, rust is just a cheap form of weight reduction :iceslolan

hehe my MX3 is about to go under the knife. By mid-august, she will be running mid 14s and it will look completely stock. Its gonna be beautiful :lol: Can you say bye-bye VR6? :smokin:



im biggggg on sleepers, give me something like a 98 altima (5speed), swop out the ka24 for a sr20det, keep the factory ride height, stock rims on new grippier rubber. and watch my tail lights get smaller. of course im dreaming though

I actually personally know a guy that has put approx. 25Gs into his Civic. He runs 24lbs of boost and on the dyno he pulled out 480hp. In the quarter he runs mid-to-low 12s... tell me a stock car that can do 12s out of the box... Im sure there are a few.. but not under 100Gs thats for sure.

I personally dont believe you have an RX8, you sound like a 16 year old with nothing better to do than BS half the world that doesnt give two shits about what you drive.

My man?? I am damn near 40...not 16. And you sound JUST like those people that can't beleive I drive a RX-8 (even though they ACTUALLY see me driving it). But whatever...I have nothing to prove. Based on the last quote...it's all BUENO.

p.s. I could not see myself pouring 25 G into a civic. Maybe that's my age talking, or I am not a PEPSI generation kid... Peace everyone!

Dude, ur 40 (ish). Then you were around in the begining for the rotary (at least in the US market). You where around when the R100 was still prowling the streets. That gives you more of a right to drive one than any 16 year old.
So, what do you think of your RX?

350z
SRT-4
S2000
RX-8

Simple as that.

Dude, ur 40 (ish). Then you were around in the begining for the rotary (at least in the US market). You where around when the R100 was still prowling the streets. That gives you more of a right to drive one than any 16 year old.
So, what do you think of your RX?

Dontcha love these young whippa snapeers? LOL...anyway I love my RX-8. This car handles like no tommorow!!! I feel like when I am taking a city turn at 45-50 MPH I feel like the car could never lose control. Other cars have come close to this handling but the RX-8 is the best I've driven.

Luv the car...yes I am 39...

You guys don't know squat about rotary drag racing.
Jesus Padilla runs mid 9's in his 85 GSL 3 rotor beast. Designed to run in the 2 litre class he whopped ASS all over any Acura, Honda or Neon.

They banned him from running (I guess 3 rotors is a tad too much for those 4 bangers).

PLUS- It was all NA!!! No turbo, no S/C, NO JUICE. http://www.battleoftheimports.com/battleracers/jesuspadilla.shtml

Shit- Give me 25k to blow on a project car and I would have one bad 1st gen pulling 10's no prob. N/A to boot. AND the sucker would handle like a sled on rails to boot.

Neons. Sheesh.

thats besides the point. this poll is to find out which car is better overall. Im sure for every fast rotary, there is a faster SRT-4, 350Z, or S2000. The thread is supposed to be a analytical discussion, discussing the stong and weak points of the above cars.

Looks like the thread was originally intended to see which car (stock) boasts faster 1/4 mile times. In which case- just cut'n'paste R&T or Car & Driver stats for your answer. Some of the drag queens were boasting about modded cars for drag racing- my point is a modded rotary can best damn near anything N/A!!

Meh- I hate drag racing. None of the vehicles listed (with the exception of maybe the Neon) were designed with straight line times in mind. These are touring/sports cars. If the question is which is the better overall car then I would choose the 350Z. Tried and true engineering and Nissan racing heritage. Closely followed by the s2000, thirdly the RX-8 and lastly the Neon.

The RX-8 renesis powerplant is too new an adaption to effectively rate. In a few years (if they continue development) it may surpass the 350Z.

Honda S2000 14.1 @ 99.2mph
Dodge SRT-4 14.2 @ 101.5mph
Nissan 350Z Roadster Touring 14.3 @ 99.5mph
Nissan 350Z Track 14.4 @ 99.7mph
Mazda RX-8 14.5 @ 95.6mph

These numbers are from Road & Track's Road Test Summary August '04 (pg.132-133)

As you can tell the 1/4 Times only differ 1/10 of a sec between each car...

UnlimitedEK9

350Z
SRT-4
S2000
RX-8

I have to say the 350Z would probably win. Although it would deffinately come down to the driver. Both the 350Z and the SRT-4 are rated at 14.0 from the factory. I hate neons, but the SRT-4's are fast as hell. I watched one pull a 13.8 pretty much stock with only better tires and a couple hundred bucks put into it in mods. And they are an AWD car by the way not Front Wheel Drive. But I do agree that all of the other cars are in a different class than the peon, uhh I mean neon. If I were to buy one, it would deffinately be the nissan.


I must say this kid is fully retarded. Go to the Dodge website, go to NEONS... click on srt-4 and look at drivetrain stats. It's FWD unlike the earlier amazing turbo-4 DSMs of our time.

Btw... quarter mile is for kids who cant drive

Relax dude. No need to be talkin shit. I was just misinformed about the srt-4 being awd. I was told it was by a friend who OWNS a dodge dealarship, so I thought the info was reliable. But apparently not, it is front wheel drive.

Honda S2000 14.1 @ 99.2mph
Dodge SRT-4 14.2 @ 101.5mph
Nissan 350Z Roadster Touring 14.3 @ 99.5mph
Nissan 350Z Track 14.4 @ 99.7mph
Mazda RX-8 14.5 @ 95.6mph

These numbers are from Road & Track's Road Test Summary August '04 (pg.132-133)

As you can tell the 1/4 Times only differ 1/10 of a sec between each car...

UnlimitedEK9

I'd like to say that this thread and indeed the entire RX-8 section is missing the most important difference about this car. But first let me highlight what seems to be agreed on as this cars advantages.

high revving smoth rotory
weight and balance
steering & cornering
style

Put all those things, and the 1/4 stats from above together and add the fact that four adults can get in and out and ride comortably makes this car an absolute winner.

In my case last weekend I had 3 adults and an aft facing baby seat in my RX8 and the front seats were not pushed forward to accomodate.

This car shouldn't even be compared to the 2 seaters but it is and I would have to say that all these competitors should be shaking in the driving boots as this is Mazda's first year and you know that a power upgrade is coming.

PS RX8 beat all these cars at Phoenix Sport Touring 200 at Phoenix International Raceway in April.

Sorry SRT-4 I didn't mention that you have a back seat and four doors but that's because it shouldn't be comapred either as it's a family sedan and it's turbo'd. If it takes a turbo to get you here then you'll be left when we all fit turbos to our naturally aspirated engines, won't you?

yes, but the point is the STOCK cars... you could also crank up the boost on an SRT-4 so.. it would still b up there

yes, but the point is the STOCK cars... you could also crank up the boost on an SRT-4 so.. it would still b up there

Pissing match... You got stats on what hp you would gain by cranking the boost? It won't be that much. Face it the SRT-4 has 230 hp with a turbo the rest of these cars have more than that without a turbo.

i personally know a guy whith an SRT-4 and all he did was bought a boost controller to crank up his boost a bit. Running on street tires and CAI, he does low 13s... with more boost he could easily be in the 12s. Not saying what impossible that the other cars could be faster. The most likely could, but you have to be fair and see that the Neon can be boosted up too.

i personally know a guy whith an SRT-4 and all he did was bought a boost controller to crank up his boost a bit. Running on street tires and CAI, he does low 13s... with more boost he could easily be in the 12s. Not saying what impossible that the other cars could be faster. The most likely could, but you have to be fair and see that the Neon can be boosted up too.

I do get it. And if you turbo these other cars then you can boost them too... checkmate! LOL

no, because to be FAIR... you spend equal amounts of money... while you're blowing money beefing up the internals of the other cars, the SRT-4 can spend more time boosting...

no, because to be FAIR... you spend equal amounts of money... while you're blowing money beefing up the internals of the other cars, the SRT-4 can spend more time boosting...

Nice try but it's not about the money. If that were true everybody would beefing up civics and talons.

Fact one: these cars have more hp than the SRT-4 without turbos and they're widley accepted as sports cars.

Fact two: the SRT-4 is a family sedan.

My point from the begining is that the SRT-4 does not belong in this comparison.

actually it would go 350 SRT-4 s2000 then RX-8

Nice try but it's not about the money. If that were true everybody would beefing up civics and talons.

Fact one: these cars have more hp than the SRT-4 without turbos and they're widley accepted as sports cars.

Fact two: the SRT-4 is a family sedan.

My point from the begining is that the SRT-4 does not belong in this comparison.

Laughing Out Loud at SRT-4...Family sedan.

Right-on!

Rx8's only dyno 170RWHP... (my 208Hp 944 dyno's more) Also don't say there is a safty sensors on the front wheels because there is not (Some cars do have that like the E46m3) but the Rx8 doesnt... Ok, My rant on the Rx8 is over...
Uhhhh...the RX8 DOES have sensors on the front wheels....They bypassed them in SCC mag and got better dyno results. So Ha! :)

350z
srt4
rx8
s2000

if the s2 is an 04, then switch s2 and rx8.

cant wait for the 8 turbo...

good call on the rx8 turbo. I hear the turbo is going to be electronicly controled to keep a decent fuel economy, puls bump it to about 300 bhp (i think).

okay i'm opening this up again because i just got into AF this month and this whole thread went to shit really fast...... first of all, anyone who said the 350z was the fastest car, thank you. anyone who tries to argue that is stupid and u deserve nothing more than to have your license taken for the remainder of your FREAKING LIFE! i had to argue with myself for the rest, lol. the rx8 has 238 crank power, the s2000 has 240 crank power, and the neon has 225 WHEEL power, front wheel drive or not, it's fucking quick! i used to have a '95 240sx...i raced a stock s2000 while my nissan was stock and i stayed right with the guy. s2000s are nice ass cars but only worth a damn modded(at least a v-tec controller). that damn redline is too far back in stock trim! v-tec hits at like what, 6 grand...? i'm already in second gear by then lol.. the only car of the four i have yet to ride or drive is the 8. but we all know it's faster than the s2000, slower than the neon, and slower than the 350z..... so the order would be (and the people who already know this...GOOD, YOU SHOULD KNOW, lol..) : 350z, srt-4, rx-8, s2000

i would almost bet my car on it...

:rofl: Where were you all this time??? that last post almost brings a tear to my eye.. it was beautiful :iceslolan

its been along time sence ive been back to this thread. i just wanted to say that my friend has an 350z and about 6weeks ago he was running it at the track and he raced a 02' s2000 and he launched on him hella hard so the s2000 didnt have a chance.
but he asked the s2000 guy if he wanted to leave together.
so we went on main street and there was 2 people in each car.
we raced from a roll so there was no excuses.
i yelled 1....2....3! and they both floored it at 20mph in 1st. it was about the same till the about 50mph we started pulling on the 2000
they shut it down at 85(not quite full 1/4) and we won by a good 2cars.

S2000's only make their power in the high-range... with an inexperienced driving in an S2000, Ill bet I could take him in my MX3 :/ THe S2000 is a sweet car if you can keep the RPMs up.

Dont you think we've beaten this one to death. Also, none of these cars are real quarter mile specialists. Most of them are ment to handle the curves and if you'll check the numbers, they seem to deliver the goods.

Dont you think we've beaten this one to death. Also, none of these cars are real quarter mile specialists. Most of them are ment to handle the curves and if you'll check the numbers, they seem to deliver the goods.

I have to agree with you 100%!

Nice try but it's not about the money. If that were true everybody would beefing up civics and talons.

THEY DO!!! That's what's sad about it! :screwy: :disappoin :loser: :sly:

here are some comparisons.....



http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.php?make1=29&model1=828&make2=18&model2=315&make3=35&model3=540&make4=13&model4=227



looks like the modd'd Neon's are pretty quick, wit the 350Z's not far behind.... I'm not counting the S2000 dragster than ran in the 8's.... :)

Hey Doug My name is Doug too the rx8 is awsome who cares what a magazine says have you seen a 350z beat one no they arent as fast as a rx8 and car your 350z carry 4 adults and rev forever no. go Dougs yea I am a high school kid but know a lot like honda suck

Hey Doug My name is Doug too the rx8 is awsome who cares what a magazine says have you seen a 350z beat one no they arent as fast as a rx8 and car your 350z carry 4 adults and rev forever no. go Dougs yea I am a high school kid but know a lot like honda suck
:werd:

wait, actually, :gay: :banhim:

man a rx8 will not win against a 350z in the quarter, unless the z driver is shitty.

Think were beating a dead horse here or what?

350z
s2000
srt4
rx8

The RX8 needs a an S/C for torque. It is not very impressive as far as 1/4 mile speed. It is however a very good handling balanced car. I have also a MX6 LS and it makes it seem like a Buick in the handling department. It might hang with my modded Automatic 97 Mustang GT ( Gears, shiftkit, no cats, Pulleys) but I doubt. My GT ran a 14.7. While test driving the RX8 6 spd. I kept thinking that the GT would out run it. The dealer that I drove it at told me a that a turbo version from Mazda speed is in the works. Sunflower Mazda in KS, the dealer, has experimented with a ProCharger S/C (The Procharger Co. is based in KS) and has almost doubled the power. They said that since the wankel is almost the same in design like an S/C it works in harmony. The lowend is much better with more torque and is fast as lightning. Look for a ProCharger coming out with an off the shelf S/c setup for the RX8.

Even my celica GTS can beat the RX8 except mine is upgraded.
Mazda never had the technology to produce the rotary for the rx7's now that the technology is better they should be much more adaptable. However its odd that they did not make a larger engine, even Chris Redo Rado? however you spell it he says there no substitution for cubic inches even in the four cylinder class and I think the same applies to the rotary. It has come a long way since it was developed, in the 1930's I think and is a very promising design but mazda has done nothing but capitalize from it and no market in performance has been evaluated. So I think they should give it more balls and stop braggin about it being a rotary. Who cares unless it has power! They do race them in F1 indy cars I think but so what that technology is like government secrets that will anly be released when they are rendered useless!!

i test drove the rx8 last year and it reminded me of my friends civic si. like eri13 said, "it needs more balls.

all you dumbass kids dont have a clue about anything. i HAVE an RX8 and you have no clue what kind of acceleration that car has. it is insane. for one, the rx8 is WAY faster than the 350Z. i would know this beCAUSE i have driven BOTH of the cars. the SRT-4 is a front wheel drive peice of ball bearing turbo shit. when you punch it has WAY to much wheelspin. how much horsepower do you fucking half-wit morons think the rx8 and the other cars have......YEAHHHH thats what i thought, go look it up on the fucking computer you stupid fucking kids. you probably cant tell me shit about the renesis (oh you know the fucking engine in the rx8, you know the fucking rotary!) i think i made my point here you bunch of fucking bald eagles!
Where you the red rx-8 I put buslengths on the highway a couple of weeks ago in my neon I have it on video too haha.

:loser: wow, what's the resale on your neon? :lol:

Even my celica GTS can beat the RX8 except mine is upgraded.
Mazda never had the technology to produce the rotary for the rx7's now that the technology is better they should be much more adaptable. However its odd that they did not make a larger engine, even Chris Redo Rado? however you spell it he says there no substitution for cubic inches even in the four cylinder class and I think the same applies to the rotary. It has come a long way since it was developed, in the 1930's I think and is a very promising design but mazda has done nothing but capitalize from it and no market in performance has been evaluated. So I think they should give it more balls and stop braggin about it being a rotary. Who cares unless it has power! They do race them in F1 indy cars I think but so what that technology is like government secrets that will anly be released when they are rendered useless!!
you obviously know nothing about the rotary engine. The rx8 can put close to 240 at the wheels with intake, exhaust and ecu tuning, judge ito did it. what people dont realize is that the renesis is crazy detuned so that it will pass emissions and fuel economy regulations, thats why its low on power.
everyone knows a srt4 could beat a rx8 going straight. old news.

also about the larger engine, i guess you have never heard of the 20b or 26b?

350z
S2000
RX-8
SRT-4

I've seen an S2000 murder an SRT-4 with my own eyes.

well obvously the srt-4 driver sucked ass, because it IS (or at least should be) faster than s2k in the quarter. This is fact, not opinion.

well obvously the srt-4 driver sucked ass, because it IS (or at least should be) faster than s2k in the quarter. This is fact, not opinion.
AGREED!
srt-4
350z
s2000
rx8
simple as that

SRT-4 and 350Z are kind of tied for number 1. I've seen SRT-4s run as fast as mid 13s stock and I've seen 350Zs do the same. Now S2000s will run low to flat 14s all day. And then RX-8s will come in last with mid to high 14 second times. Alot of people in here that own RX-8s just don't want to accept that they bought a slow car. So, my list:

1. SRT-4/350z
2. S2000
3. RX-8

rx-8 isnt slow. its just not blazingly fast. besides, you can be fast in more than one direction than just straight.

Well, he's asking about 1/4 mile times...and the RX-8 is slow in a straight line.

RX-8 is not intend for straight road racing...
How many times do you guys need to ask? Rotaries are more handling based...

well the turbo rotaries have had sucess with drag racing, theres one guy in the mid 9s on street tires 9 (its a 3rd gen). quite honestly the chassis is underpowered but mainly because the renesis had to be detuned.

Die, Thread, Die!!!!!!!!!!!

has anyone here seen the series from australia called high octane ? its up to like the 4th or 5th movie now, anywayz, on the most recent one, they dragged a 350z and a rx8, sad to say, the 8 got its butt kicked in the end, but put up one hell of a fight.

Umm.. dont waste your money. Go find a evo or sti if you want speed.

if I'm driving, I pick the S2000 to win. all cars stock.

For all those cars you are paying far to much for what they do.
Better off buying a RX7 for less than half the price and putting the rest into the car. You end up with a better car that excells in every aspect over those with one exception of being a bit older.

But unfortunatly the RX8 is not really well suited to any car catagory. Its not a true sports car, its not a true 4 door, its not a person carrier. It is a mish mashof them all and it has to sacrifice something to make it what it is.

I ran an SRT4 on the highway the other day. Dead Heat. I have a 97GT with no cats 3.73 gears U/D pulleys and that is about it. I was astonished. I though I'd get walked. He was not going easy either or they are capable of 180mph. You know because since I have the slowest Mustang all the fast 4 banger crowd want a piece of me because of its crappy rep. I am sure he wanted to bury me. I was at 130 when we shut off starting at about 70 the got into traffic. They are fast but I believe a car that has a range of 10000 r's could be modded to be very fast. I think they are going to be a favorite to mod eventually. I think when you have that much to work with as much of a base power to weight ratio they have it could be fun.

For all those cars you are paying far to much for what they do.
Better off buying a RX7 for less than half the price and putting the rest into the car. You end up with a better car that excells in every aspect over those with one exception of being a bit older.

But unfortunatly the RX8 is not really well suited to any car catagory. Its not a true sports car, its not a true 4 door, its not a person carrier. It is a mish mashof them all and it has to sacrifice something to make it what it is.

You obviously don't own or drive an RX8. Your comparisons are wrong and pointless. Sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder over this car. And you don't need to. This is not the successor to the RX7. It is it's own sports car. It has the performance of the two seat crowd and a better ride and gives me the ability to carry 4 people (by the way sit in the back of any other sports car then sit in this one and tell me it it's not a person carrier). In every comparison I've ever read the authors pick this car over the others for it's overall abilities. It has the modern technological advances of 8 airbags, traction control, dynamic stability control, not to mention 4 years of free maintenance and looks that kill.

Now tell me why the Hell I would spend even half as much and get less than half in return.

BTW, can somebody, anybody show me an article written by the main stream magazines (Car and Driver, Road and Track, Motor Trend etc...) that has picked any other car as the winner of the comparison? I may be wrong because I haven't been reading anything lately, Ive been out driving and loving this car.

he's saying if you want all out performance from a rotary car you want to save money and buy a rx-7.

since this thread is about 1/4 performance

You obviously don't own or drive an RX8. Your comparisons are wrong and pointless. Sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder over this car. And you don't need to. This is not the successor to the RX7. It is it's own sports car. It has the performance of the two seat crowd and a better ride and gives me the ability to carry 4 people (by the way sit in the back of any other sports car then sit in this one and tell me it it's not a person carrier). In every comparison I've ever read the authors pick this car over the others for it's overall abilities. It has the modern technological advances of 8 airbags, traction control, dynamic stability control, not to mention 4 years of free maintenance and looks that kill.

Now tell me why the Hell I would spend even half as much and get less than half in return.


Hey bud, i got no chip on my shoulder. I build rotary cars for people. I dont like the car cause it is poorly designed. I have a friend who helped in the inital design of the apperance and some othere aspects of the car and im not impressed with it.
I will never sit in the rear seats of a sports car , reason for that is a real sports car dosent have rear seats :P

From the start the RX8 was a dissapointment. Lower power output that was claimed. Tuning of the motor didnt seem to yeaild much more power, slugging issues, interior moisture issues, flooding (still LMAO), lean running, cat converter problems.

O and incase you are thinking i just plane dont like it, well that is true. My opinions are based on the fact that i bought one new as soon as it was at the dealer. I even had if for about a year but sold it, couldent stand it anymore.

Mazda designed the car to appeal to a wide varitie of people and that killed the car. And as for telling me my personal opinions are pointless and such, get a grip buddy. I have been around rotaries my hole life. I know what works and what dosent. The car is already hurting in sales and no one wants it anymore. Its turning into the next Celica LOL.

Up side of that is that the prices will get lower and lower.

Authors pics, LMFAO, hey did you ever notice that those are one persons personal opinons printed into a magazien that gets the majority of its funding advertising for such companies as Mazda ??? Makes you think dont it.

Anyways, to find 1/4 mile performance in a Mazda rotary lineup you have to go a back in the lineup.

the rx-8 is basically a placeholder.

because ford was afraid the rotary would have them losing tons of money (lessons learned from the FD3s), they told mazda they couldnt build an all out sports car, so they constructed someting mild in comparison to the rx-7. I'm sure if circumstances would allow, we'd have a fast(er) rotary car on our hands now.

Im almost done a build up on one right now for a good customer. WAY to much money went into this car, almost everything had to be custom built. But this thing will be making BIG numbers once its broken in and the big boost has been added.
Now if we take this RX8 im almost done building and use it against 99% of whats on the road today it will DESTROY it, no question about that. :D

I will post pics as soon as the tunning is done and i have permission by the owner.

yay!

your the man as always fdtt

Hey bud, i got no chip on my shoulder. I build rotary cars for people. I dont like the car cause it is poorly designed. I have a friend who helped in the inital design of the apperance and some othere aspects of the car and im not impressed with it.
I will never sit in the rear seats of a sports car , reason for that is a real sports car dosent have rear seats :P

From the start the RX8 was a dissapointment. Lower power output that was claimed. Tuning of the motor didnt seem to yeaild much more power, slugging issues, interior moisture issues, flooding (still LMAO), lean running, cat converter problems.

O and incase you are thinking i just plane dont like it, well that is true. My opinions are based on the fact that i bought one new as soon as it was at the dealer. I even had if for about a year but sold it, couldent stand it anymore.

Mazda designed the car to appeal to a wide varitie of people and that killed the car. And as for telling me my personal opinions are pointless and such, get a grip buddy. I have been around rotaries my hole life. I know what works and what dosent. The car is already hurting in sales and no one wants it anymore. Its turning into the next Celica LOL.

Up side of that is that the prices will get lower and lower.

Authors pics, LMFAO, hey did you ever notice that those are one persons personal opinons printed into a magazien that gets the majority of its funding advertising for such companies as Mazda ??? Makes you think dont it.

Anyways, to find 1/4 mile performance in a Mazda rotary lineup you have to go a back in the lineup.

You still don't get it. The car was picked in every comparison by more than one publication. Are you saying that all the other car manufacturers didn't have enough bribe money to win the comparison. You're an idiot! You do have a chip. You don't get around much either. I recently rode in a 450hp Porche with a back seat. I garrantee it would kick your ass in anthing you've ever built or ever will. The point is this car does have 238hp and does handle well and does look better than anything out there including that tired-ass design of the RX7.

See ya... this thread is dead.

whoa man.... the rx7 is a classic design nowhere near dated (in reference to the fd)

LMAO buddie think what you like. Your car is slow, and is plegued with design problems. I know, i work on them. There fun cars to drive but nothing to brag about.

Your about as smart as a thumb tac now arent you. I guarantee you have seen my motors and not even know it. But i dont perticularly care.

As for i dont get aroudn much comment, i supose you need to have a look around my shop then. Multiple porsches, NSX's, 510's, 240, 260, 280, 300ZX, tons of RX7's, RX3's, WRX, VW ect ect. Porsches are not 4 seaters, there 2+2's. There seats were designed for people with no legs. I have 944's, they have 4 seats in them but there not even seats. You have 4 doors pal. Full sized seats. Its not a sports car. And yes, Mazda does have enough money to buy out editors opinions. There dieing off so they need to get in the spotlite somehow.

As for a 450hp porsche owngin every car i have built. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH my daily driver has over 450whp. My 20B tripple turbo will be pushing out over 1000whp. The FD i just finished is making 683whp.
When you grow up and learn a few things come back and make a worthwile reply instead of being a kid and just insulting people. mmm k.

bye bye den

http://www.350zonline.com/gallery/albums/album589/DSCN1273.jpg
20B tripple turbo (est. power:1300whp)
http://www.350zonline.com/gallery/albums/album589/DSCN1271.jpg
94 FD, streetported, 3mm seals, 225,000kms and still pounding out 418whp.
http://www.350zonline.com/gallery/albums/album589/DSCN1269.jpg
my fun bench
http://www.350zonline.com/gallery/albums/album739/DSCN0877.jpg
Recently completed 95 R2 with full BP, big boost (ext power 650whp @18psi)
http://www.350zonline.com/gallery/albums/album589/laurenFLa.jpg
Oops, not one of my cars, but mine none the less.

deja vu

"And yes, Mazda does have enough money to buy out editors opinions. There dieing off so they need to get in the spotlite somehow."

"...instead of being a kid and just insulting people. mmm k."



Do you have any proof that magazine editors are on the take? Or is making accusations just your way of winning friends and influencing people? You probably do know your stuff from a tech standpoint--we only know what you've told us--but until you can substantiate your your claims, I think you owe many people a lot of apologies.

And since we're being critical, you might look into the proper use of "their," "there" and "they're." There is a difference in the way they're to be used; their purposes are completely different. It's spelled "dying," not "dieing," and it's "spotlight," not "spotlite."

P.S.: Bribed anyone yourself lately? :naughty:

My proof comes in personal experance with these cars. As well as the experance of othere drivers of these cars. I dont need to read a magazine that is biased (no matter what you say, everyone of them is).

Indeed, i may be wrong in that statement, but the 8 is not a fast car in straight lines. In the corners its right up there (still needs some tweeks IMO).

I dont beleave i owe a single person an appologie on here. If im attacked, then i will retaliate, we call it human nature. Im intitled to my opinion, as are otheres to there own. I will not attempt to change anyone opinions, just state my own. So take it with a grain of salt.

and yes, im sorry for my poor spelling and use of grammer, it has never been a strong point for me.

As for bribes, cant say i have. I let my work do the talking for me.

Your fighting a losing battle. Though I love my RX8, we'll get beat by all of them in the 1/4 with equal drivers(but not by much at all). Add a track and then we'll do some damage to all of them.

To the guy arguing his point about the 8. I understand you but in the 1/4 we'll lose in most cases. But most people seem to forget especially most of the FD owners, that our RX8's don't have a stock Turbo in them or a huge Engine. The later RX7's were light and had Turbo's so they could do some damage. Take the turbo out of the 7 and its playing with civics. The 350Z and G35 have a huge V6 in them.(I really think of them as muscle cars anyway's). Then you have the SRT-4, EVO and STi which all have Turbo's and two of them with AWD!(Rally cars, LOL)

Also just to add a point alot of the above competitors have Big Name Performance Struts, Brakes and other performance enhancing products on them. Most people don't look into depth with things, but rush to pass judgement. The RX8 is all Natural, it doesn't need a Turbo, Brembo Brakes and Mac Pherson Struts to get good performance numbers. *Side Not* Holly Crap, imagine what it would do if it did. :iceslolan

My proof comes in personal experance with these cars. As well as the experance of othere drivers of these cars. I dont need to read a magazine that is biased (no matter what you say, everyone of them is).

Indeed, i may be wrong in that statement, but the 8 is not a fast car in straight lines. In the corners its right up there (still needs some tweeks IMO).

I dont beleave i owe a single person an appologie on here. If im attacked, then i will retaliate, we call it human nature. Im intitled to my opinion, as are otheres to there own. I will not attempt to change anyone opinions, just state my own. So take it with a grain of salt.

and yes, im sorry for my poor spelling and use of grammer, it has never been a strong point for me.

As for bribes, cant say i have. I let my work do the talking for me.

But you deliberately said that Mazda bribed magazine editors. Saying that you have personal experience with cars...I don't see what that has to do with anything, other than what you've written to others. If you can present a single example of money changing hands between Mazda and an editor, I'd be interested in hearing about it. But you can't. So if you've made accusations about Mazda having bribed editors, and then admit that you can't substantiate it, don't you think that should call for an apology?

Of course, just as you can accuse editors off taking bribes to lie, I can state with no equivocation that some tuners, um, exagerate the power output of the cars they build. Then too, how many tuner cars show up at magazine shootouts and puke their guts out, or get blown off by other tuners cars? Do you know anyone who that has happened to?

But you deliberately said that Mazda bribed magazine editors. Saying that you have personal experience with cars...I don't see what that has to do with anything, other than what you've written to others. If you can present a single example of money changing hands between Mazda and an editor, I'd be interested in hearing about it. But you can't. So if you've made accusations about Mazda having bribed editors, and then admit that you can't substantiate it, don't you think that should call for an apology?

Of course, just as you can accuse editors off taking bribes to lie, I can state with no equivocation that some tuners, um, exagerate the power output of the cars they build. Then too, how many tuner cars show up at magazine shootouts and puke their guts out, or get blown off by other tuners cars? Do you know anyone who that has happened to?


Well the proof is in the magazines.
Have a look through your news stand. You will see some magazines have loads of sdvertisements through them for Mazda products, where others dont. The ones that have the ads that are all over the place are the ones that placed the RX8 as the top runner in there comparisons. Where as the othere mags without the add suport from Mazda did not place the car the same way.
But you are right, like i said for the second time, i dont have proof. But that does not constitue an appologie.

I cant comment on the "tuners" you speak of because everyone who bolts on body kits and does B18 swaps is calling themselves tuners. Yes, they do tend to imbelish there power numbers as no one wants there cars to look poor compared to the competition. But i can put money on my claims as i have built similar cars and come out with similar numbers, i dont simpley pull them out of thin air.

PS on a sad note, the 20B triturbo S5 will be almost strictly show car stuff. It almost makes me sad to complete the car because it will never get pushed with what its got. But i have to make a living some how :P

I do appologize if i offended you, or others, but im intitled to my opinions and therfore will share them with others. I also said the hole "bribe" thing about the cars based on assumption from looking at adds in these mags.

PS the only real thing i think i need to appologize for is my spelling, its horrable LOL

:lol2: 3 of them are well within reaction time and driver error. The only one that would probably never win is the RX-8. My friend has an 05' manual, and is a very good driver. I have an 04' MSM. He has never beaten me, nor finished within a car of me. For some reason in all RX-8's nowhere near 238 BHP gets to the ground. On my personal dino I ran 3 RX-8's they all ranged betweeen 170-181 WHP. :banghead:

an srt4 would stomp a 350 in actual racing

an srt4 would stomp a 350 in actual racing
not when this thread was made

From my understanding, Magazines are just like TV and Radio Stations. That's how they're able to stay up and running. Every magazine is going to have advertisements in them. Just because companies have paid the magazine to put an ad in, doesn't mean that "if" the car has an article in the magazine at that point in time that they're going to give it a good review. The RX8 has plenty of great reviews because its a great car. Get that through your heads. It just made car and drivers top 10 list for 2006 AGAIN. That's 3 years in a roll now. You guys need to get rid of your tunnel vision and look at the car as a whole.

Its still funny how an so called "underpowered car" can keep up with the big boys........................

:lol2: 3 of them are well within reaction time and driver error. The only one that would probably never win is the RX-8. My friend has an 05' manual, and is a very good driver. I have an 04' MSM. He has never beaten me, nor finished within a car of me. For some reason in all RX-8's nowhere near 238 BHP gets to the ground. On my personal dino I ran 3 RX-8's they all ranged betweeen 170-181 WHP. :banghead:

What cars are? I've never seen a car get very close to its stated engine HP!

G35 Dyno (http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46276&highlight=dyno)

Another G35 (http://www.dynoperformance.com/search_details.php?ID=493)

There are plenty more but I have to find them. Most of the Dyno machines are BS anyways. Heres a experiment that Turbo Magazine did with an 350Z:

Mixed Results for Dynos (http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0306tur_dynodash/index.html)

well since someone brought back this thread I guess I'll post, for an update, there are 4 superchargers in the works that keep the dyno line of acceleration the RX-8 have. one company is doing 3 stages, stage 1 gives you about 230whp stage 2 gives you 270whp and stage 3 gives about 315whp the other company who is making the 4th charger hasnt said exactly how much power they will find.

i bet my 2nd gen rx7 turbo will eat an rx8 up, track or dyno... the kid i bought my rx from bought an rx8, and he likes the newness of it, but preferred the take off and handling of the 7..

blah blah if you want a good handling sedan buy the 8, you want a sports car buy the 7 case closed

Who re-opened this thread, it was started two years ago.
1.srt4
2.350z
3.s2000
4.rx 8
this is how it would be in a straight line but on a track or autocross the s2000 and the rx8 would be in front.

350z
srt4
RX-8
s2000

RX-8 needs to be in 2nd gear when starting. pulls away and maintains lead over s2000. the torque from the srt's turbo makes it hard for the rx-8 plus I believe it has what, an extra 12 or so horses? The RX-8 is light but has torque issues. 350z would own by sheer power overtake.

HOWEVER, in a race on a track. You know- real racing? Order would go like this...
RX-8
s2000
most likely 350z
followed by srt 4

350z
srt4
RX-8
s2000

RX-8 needs to be in 2nd gear when starting. pulls away and maintains lead over s2000. the torque from the srt's turbo makes it hard for the rx-8 plus I believe it has what, an extra 12 or so horses? The RX-8 is light but has torque issues. 350z would own by sheer power overtake.

HOWEVER, in a race on a track. You know- real racing? Order would go like this...
RX-8
s2000
most likely 350z
followed by srt 4
Are your serious? second gear. Have you ever driven this car, and if you do own one which I doubt, go ahead and try to launch the car in second gear.
The srt hp numbers are to the wheels and not at the flywheel which most people do not know.

RX-8 USDM has a lot of restrictions on the ecm because the engine pollutes too much and is a noisy engine, the car is amazingly fun to drive because for its stabillity thanks for the DSC (dynamic stabillity control on high power only) and the 50/50 weight balance but is not as fast as the people was specting when they saw it on X Men movie (remember?) even i was excited about it, but when i put the pedal to the metal i went desillusionated, i went thoughtful while i was driving it because i have a Civic making 12.3" in the 1/4 mille, but i decide to turn off the DCS and it was fun to do burn-out and drifting, then i notice that the car is for cruising, very good acceleration but just cruising with it with the sun roof wide open,by the way i work for Ford, sorry i mean Mazda, it is the same S@!*....

ive watched 350z's beat both rx8s and honda s2000s
but i think the honda would take the mazda

Definitly, even a SOHC (well equiped, all motor) will, but RX-8 has a lot of power hidden by the ecm. I have seen RX-8 with exhaust system, Nology wires, ground wiring systems and even with K&N intakes, but it only feels more noise.... If you want to see something interesting go to YOUTUBE and write TYPER VS RX8, then let me know. Adios

Let This Die Already!

there is no way in hell an all motor v6 or anything smaller other than a turbo rotary will beat a FI 4 banger or bigger...so in sayin that srt4, 350z, s2k, rx8...and i own an 8...but if you wanna talk sexiness, the 8 DEFINITELY LOOKS better than all the above...

but if you wanna talk sexiness, the 8 DEFINITELY LOOKS better than all the above...
Agreed lol

Agreed lol DAZ WRIGHT! i don't like Wankels, but the cage is relly a neck breaker! Even more when using nickel 20's.:tongue: