a lot of people probably seen em or heard about em. Its a little turbine type thing that goes in the MAF thats suppose to increase power and save fuel. The thing is that I didnt really believe in that crap. But my uncle was over our house and he bought two of them a little while ago...he installed one on his Chevy Venture (the van) and said he notices a much better throttel responce and some fuel saved. His wife owns a 99 G20, and he is going to install it on hers soon, and tell me what improvements it had. Why I am saying is that I heard a lot of talk about this thing before and not many liked them...and I just had proof that it did work. But ill see what happens after he puts it in the G20. later

Put the car on a dyno before and after and show me the proof. I've done too many "mods" and drove around and said, "Gee willakers, I think it made me much faster." When in actuality, they prolly did shit for me.

he said that when you step on the gas, the car reacts quicker and gains speed a little quicker. But I also heard some talk that it might do a little good for bigger engines, but does shit for smaller engines.

Well, I can sorta see how it would work if it was powered, like if it was an actual fan in the intake pipe, but all it does is "spin" with the already incoming air. all that would do is slow the air down or restrict air from entering.

so why doesnt someone think up of an actual fan that spins? It be good if the fan was powered too, so it would force the air coming in to move faster. I dunno, just an idea.

I think cuz the speed which is needed to spin the turbine and to create enough flow is impossible. Turbos spin at around 100,000Rpm I believe.

Originally posted by Koojo
so why doesnt someone think up of an actual fan that spins? It be good if the fan was powered too, so it would force the air coming in to move faster. I dunno, just an idea.

They have, its called a turbo. lol. j/k.

Originally posted by Swonder67


They have, its called a turbo. lol. j/k.


Dammit why do you have to be so smart!!!!! just kidin man:smoka:

Originally posted by Koojo
so why doesnt someone think up of an actual fan that spins? It be good if the fan was powered too, so it would force the air coming in to move faster. I dunno, just an idea.

Well there is something like that. It's called Turbozet or something like that. There is a website.
A friend of mine have installed in his primera (2000) and he said he has gain a lot of power. Not dyno tested, but he has race his car against a friend, and he has notice the diference. Also he is getting better milleage.

I know is an electric fan, that is connected in some way to the ignition.

hahaha...thats kewl...I wanna try that on my nitro R/C car...use a computer fan using a venturi style...that would be kewl..

Originally posted by Koojo
...and I just had proof that it did work.

Perhaps you'd like to buy a nice bridge.

Originally posted by P10DET


Perhaps you'd like to buy a nice bridge.


hmmmmmmmm :flipa:

Originally posted by RCer


Well there is something like that. It's called Turbozet or something like that. There is a website.
A friend of mine have installed in his primera (2000) and he said he has gain a lot of power. Not dyno tested, but he has race his car against a friend, and he has notice the diference. Also he is getting better milleage.

I know is an electric fan, that is connected in some way to the ignition.

The Turbo Zet is also really expensive. you could prolly get an exhaust powered turbo for that price

Originally posted by Koojo



hmmmmmmmm :flipa:

OIC.....

TWO bridges. :p

I got bored one day and watched the infomercial for the tornado. There are no structurally moving parts throughout the system. It simply ducts the air into a vortech for "creating better combustion"

Originally posted by AZP10
I got bored one day and watched the infomercial for the tornado. There are no structurally moving parts throughout the system. It simply ducts the air into a vortech for "creating better combustion"

Yeah, thats why we're sayin there's no reason it should work. All it does is block air from getting in the throtle body

i just called turbo zeta delta, and they said if you buy one within the next 365 days it would be only 36 easy payments of $20 plus s+h. but here's the real deal, you also get 2 (not 1, but 2 ) bridges. altogether you'll get the feel of a 33% hp gain.

proud owner of a turbo zeta delta, "it feels soooo much faster, especially with the bridges. thanks turbo zeta delta, i could've never went this fast without you."

Originally posted by u4ikstilz
i just called turbo zeta delta, and they said if you buy one within the next 365 days it would be only 36 easy payments of $20 plus s+h. but here's the real deal, you also get 2 (not 1, but 2 ) bridges. altogether you'll get the feel of a 33% hp gain.

proud owner of a turbo zeta delta, "it feels soooo much faster, especially with the bridges. thanks turbo zeta delta, i could've never went this fast without you."

ROTFLMAO!!!

Originally posted by Koojo
a lot of people probably seen em or heard about em. Its a little turbine type thing that goes in the MAF thats suppose to increase power and save fuel. The thing is that I didnt really believe in that crap. But my uncle was over our house and he bought two of them a little while ago...he installed one on his Chevy Venture (the van) and said he notices a much better throttel responce and some fuel saved. His wife owns a 99 G20, and he is going to install it on hers soon, and tell me what improvements it had. Why I am saying is that I heard a lot of talk about this thing before and not many liked them...and I just had proof that it did work. But ill see what happens after he puts it in the G20. later

Well, it may work on other vehicles but I sincerely doubt it would make any difference on a G20. Besides, anything in an infomercial is usually here today gone tommorrow.

:coolguy: :coolguy:

Not the Ronco rotisserie thing. I got one and it's awesome!!

Originally posted by Swonder67
Not the Ronco rotisserie thing. I got one and it's awesome!!

That is true. I got the George Foreman Grill but I bought it at Walmart for $70 instead of $100. So please let me clarify: Anything in an infomercial pertaining to cars is usually here today gone tomorrow. Ex:Slick 50, Duralube and most other products that have the usual claims of:
1)improving gas mileage
2)improving perfomance
3)reducing friction/wear
4)saving you money over some longa$$ period of time.
So there. :toothless

:coolguy: :coolguy:

Originally posted by howard_w13


That is true. I got the George Foreman Grill but I bought it at Walmart for $70 instead of $100. So please let me clarify: Anything in an infomercial pertaining to cars is usually here today gone tomorrow. Ex:Slick 50, Duralube and most other products that have the usual claims of:
1)improving gas mileage
2)improving perfomance
3)reducing friction/wear
4)saving you money over some longa$$ period of time.
So there. :toothless

:coolguy: :coolguy:


That is true, I am usually laughing at those while watching TV and eating rotisserie chicken.

Originally posted by ty423
Turbos spin at around 100,000Rpm I believe.

I don't mean to nitpick but I've always heard it was more like 10.000-15,000rpms. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong....

Called the placebo effect. if you just blew $150 bucks on a couple of
Tornado's for your cars you would be highly sensitive to proving to
yourself your were not a big time dummy for buying it in the first
place. So you 'feel' increase in power and performance.
If mentally you want it to work, then it works. This one is almost a
laugh of a scam. It is proven
fact that high volume DENSE cool air increases power the best. Thats
why they have turbo's and intercoolers. Save your money. Get
a supercharger and have some fun.
Dr.Dave

Originally posted by Swonder67
Well, I can sorta see how it would work if it was powered, like if it was an actual fan in the intake pipe, but all it does is "spin" with the already incoming air. all that would do is slow the air down or restrict air from entering.

yeah- uhhhhhh fan in intake pipe...

hrmmmmmm...

i would piss in my pants laughing so hard if one of the blades off the fan broke off and got sucked into your engine...

bwaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! !!!

well- i might shed a tear or two because it sucks to see another g20 go down- but- hehe- i'd start laughing again after remembering how it happened...

oh- here's a thought - on the matter of intakes and such...

there's this WAY WAY WAY ghetto thing to do to increase your hp...

just take your stock box out- and fold over a pair of panty hose over the hole and let that filter your engine... :bloated: i bet the power increase would be phenomenal!!!!!!!!!



























j/k- i know it's not fine enough to filter out real dust and stuff...

-clifford

The Tornado is a scam. Ever heard of the RamAir system of the 70s? - air is forced into the carbs to create more power - it doesn't necessarily create better gas mileage.

Normally, a car's air induction takes in as much as 18,000 cubic feet of air in seconds. The way a car 'breathes' does create more power. Air filters, (and even the Tornado), small carbs, etc. restrict air flow.

Want more power without spending too much $$? Remove the OEM air filter and use a K&N filter. It works - i use K&N for my motorcycles and cars. Or better yet buy a 70s Dodge Charger and get a cheap 350HP ride!

Originally posted by none1
Or better yet buy a 70s Dodge Charger and get a cheap 350HP ride!
As it rusts out from underneath you! ;) 70's cars in good shape are not that cheap. Total cost of ownership is pretty high.

oh yah, that drop in k&n filter really did a number on my p11....:bloated: though i was gonna fall out of my seat when I accelerated.

Originally posted by kenchan
oh yah, that drop in k&n filter really did a number on my p11....:bloated: though i was gonna fall out of my seat when I accelerated.

careful with those K&N air filters...

i put one in and ripped up my tranny cuz of the power increase.

:D































just some gentle chiding.

-clifford

They've got the HP stats on the website www.TornadoFuelSaver.com?referal=7992099

Originally posted by Toggle
They've got the HP stats on the website www.TornadoFuelSaver.com?referal=7992099

ok- Toggle- you may totally be a legit G20 owner... but- for you to come onto the forum and post a link to how GREAT THE TORNADO FUEL SAVER is... on your FIRST post...

uhhhhh...

would put a little thought in some people's heads that you might be just a guy who sells them and would like to do a little advertising for your product.

by the way- i DID waste my time to take a gander at the website... 4-13 horsepower increase hmmm?

HOW MANY OF THESE LITTLE GIMMICKS DID YOU HAVE ON THE ENGINE TO PRODUCE 13 EXTRA HORSEPOWER????????

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahhaahahhahaahahahaaha

-clifford

Don't want to be anal, but like cliffud said, if you can give something more like personal experience with the Tornado maybe that might be a little more persuasive cause even though to Tornado may work on some cars, but it worthless to the SR20DE engine. Oh, and tell us what type of vehicle you drive and the mods you already have on it.:D

FYI(so we don't have beat this dead horse anymore:rolleyes: ):
The 10 answers to the questions you don't wanna ask on the SE-R mailing list.

by Kit Wetzler

1. CAI intakes work.

2. Greddy, Borla and Edlebrock mufflers are quiet and flow ok. Dynomax SuperTurbos are cheap. Ultraflos and sebrings are loud, but flow well.

3. Ignitions don't produce much on SE-Rs, besides possibly a smoother engine.

4. Prolong, Duralube, Slick50, etc. don't work.

5. Don't use injector cleaner on SR20DEs.

6. Tornados don't work.
6. Tornados don't work.
6. Tornados don't work.

7. Nissan recommends 5w30 weight oil in 91-94 SR20DEs. Regular Oil is good, Synthetic oil is better. If you don't hear what your car sounds like at 7000rpm, at least once a week, you don't need synthetic oil.

8. Arguably, headers give you the most gain of any bolt on modification. Hotshot headers are good, Stillen headers are good. Hotshot headers do tend to make a rattle noise at 4000rpm.

9. The *HIGH* port head is the 91-93, the *LOW* port head is the 94+... actual cutoff date is unknown. If your throttle body is up high, you have a *LOW* port head, if your throttle body is lower and close to the firewall, you have a *HIGH* port head.

10. Have you checked SE-R.net?

The above info was retrieved through this link:http://www.se-r.net/getting_started.html

Nuff said.
Prosecution rests it case, your honor.
:D

Listen to howard_w13, he knows a lot about cars.

DONT get the tornado fuel saver.......get in intake instead

Originally posted by Koojo
Listen to howard_w13, he knows a lot about cars.
:)Not exactly. I just do a lot of research and investigation through the info and feedback provided on www.G20.net, www.se-r.net and this forum.;)

Let me know if it does anything for the g20. I too have seen it, but I had my doubts on getting one for that kind of a price.

A second thought, how about putting the tornado and the stillen intake together? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM?:confused:

Don't know if anyone's ever tried that combo. I personally wouldn't try it but you can give it a shot if you'd like to.:)