11-25-2003, 05:44 PM
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We Want More Power
I don't know what Mazda it thinking, we want more power! The worst thing that you can do is advertise more hp than you actualy have! The prototype had the full 280hp then they cut it down to 250hp now it it 238hp. What next 200? Come on guys this is America the land of excess power cravings, where 1/4 mile times and lataral gs sell cars. What part of that don't you understand? Give us a three rotor if you cannot turbocharge it. We need somthing to smoke the Evo with.
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11-26-2003, 06:28 PM
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Re: We Want More Power
I agree! I sure hope that Mazda makes avail a "bolt on" Turbo charger for us guys who have this 2004 RX-8.
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12-01-2003, 09:45 AM
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They said that they cannot make a turbo version because as we all know turbochargers reduce exaust temps (after turbo). This robs heat from the catalitic converter reducing its ability to burn off hydrocarbons. Basicly it would not pass emissions. Although a subercharger would work. In fact it would work very well considering that the rotory engine has a very low compression ratio by its design.
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12-10-2003, 10:51 AM
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Stop whining about the power loss. I'm happy just to have a car with a rotary in it. anyways, about the supercharger rumor, it's true...they should be available in at least 6 months.
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12-10-2003, 11:58 AM
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Re: We Want More Power
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Originally Posted by Jared_80
They said that they cannot make a turbo version because as we all know turbochargers reduce exaust temps (after turbo). This robs heat from the catalitic converter reducing its ability to burn off hydrocarbons. Basicly it would not pass emissions. Although a subercharger would work. In fact it would work very well considering that the rotory engine has a very low compression ratio by its design.
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What are you smokin? 10:1 compression ratio was pretty high last time I looked. So high in fact, that if you were to turbocharge it with pumpgas, your seals would be toast after 5lbs of boost.
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12-11-2003, 11:17 AM
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Re: Re: We Want More Power
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Originally Posted by Steel
What are you smokin? 10:1 compression ratio was pretty high last time I looked. So high in fact, that if you were to turbocharge it with pumpgas, your seals would be toast after 5lbs of boost.
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What are YOU smoking? First off a 10:1 CR is not high; several cars now excede 11:1. Secondly you very scientific statment that the seals would be toast is very misleading. Running 5psi with a 10:1 makes just shy of 200 psi at ambent air temp assuming a 100% volumetric effecency. People have made well over 240psi without "tosting" their seals. So please get your facts streight BEFORE you accuse me of smoking somthing. The reason that so many people "tosted" their seald in the Gen 3 Rx7s is because it had a weak cooling system, just ask any Rx fanatic and they will tell you the first mod to make is the radator.
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12-11-2003, 11:37 AM
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If you want something better, buy the MazdaSpeed RX-8
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12-11-2003, 12:03 PM
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When did that come out?? What are it's specs?
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12-12-2003, 12:49 PM
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Re: We Want More Power
I was under the impression the actual HP was 200, maybe im wrong. But you poor rx8 owners definatly need a turbo to live up to the heritage of the cars you drive.
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12-15-2003, 12:09 PM
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Re: We Want More Power
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Originally Posted by ferrari_adidas5
If you want something better, buy the MazdaSpeed RX-8
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hmmmm...yeah maybe i'll get a time machine and go 2 years into the future, buy one, and find a way to get it back to present time...oh wait! the DeLoreans busted! Never mind that!
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12-15-2003, 05:15 PM
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Good one!  I did not think that they were out yet. Even if they do make one I doubt that it will be as good as the Evo or the STi. I was a huge RX7 fan but Mazda has disapointed me, especaly since they anounced that thay will NOT be reviving the RX7 like they had planed.
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01-03-2004, 10:23 AM
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Re: We Want More Power
Everybody is looking to forced induction to increase power. Has anyone thought of a 3-rotor Renesis engine?? How much harder would that be? 150% of the power, with the slightest weight/size increase, and you still retain incredible throttle response (read: no turbo lag)!
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01-03-2004, 08:59 PM
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Re: We Want More Power
ever consider we're trying to PASS emissions here?
j/k
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01-13-2004, 10:45 AM
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Forced induction does not significantly increase emmisions, in fact since the compression ratio is reduced they usualy have lower emmisions.
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02-08-2004, 02:27 AM
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ya 280 under the f u c k i n g hood j a c k a s s ! to the wheels like 240. oh my god.
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